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Tayyib Muqeem, an English teacher from Stoke-on-Trent, said he had moved to Lahore to convert Pakistanis to the movement.
At Lahore’s Superior College, where Muqeem has set up a Hizb ut-Tahrir student group, he said the organisation’s aim was to subject Muslim and western countries to Islamic rule under sharia law, “by force” if necessary.
In a caliphate, “every woman would have to cover up” and stoning to death for adultery and the chopping off of thieves’ hands would be the law, he said.
He added that Islamic rule would be spread through “indoctrination” and by “military means” if non-Muslim countries refused to bow to it. “Waging war” would be part of the caliphate’s foreign policy.
“Pakistan was neglected and ignored until it had a nuclear bomb and then the global leader realised it would be a good strategic base for the caliphate,” said Maajid Nawaz, one of the organisation’s pioneers in Pakistan, who has since renounced the group.
Nawaz claimed at least 10 British activists were planted in each of Pakistan’s main cities. “The traffic has been increasing ever since and people are always going back and forth (to the UK),” he added.
“Hizb ut-Tahrir sets the mood music for suicide bombers to dance to,” said Nawaz, who has now started an initiative to “claim Pakistan back” from extremists.
Yep. Pretty much. That's how Islam runs itself. No one in Islam is allowed to say anything against the delusional pedophile prophet or his cult.
Free speech .. right to assemble .. but NO RIGHT to conspire to overthrow the US government or to kill people in the process.
It's been well earned. No need for anyone to interject 'politics of fear'.
Is that what they tell ya'll as you people walk around that meteorite 7 times and worship it on 'pilgrimage'?? Is that what they tell ya'll as you people whip women who dare to show their ankles or wrists?? Is that what you tell yourself as muslims murder other muslims simpy because they don't worship allah the same way?
Insults Against Blessed Mary
Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the
descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with
carpenters."
Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is
stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that
Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.
Horrible Blasphemies Against Jesus Christ
While it is the standard disinformation practice of apologists for
the Talmud to deny that it contains any scurrilous references to Jesus
Christ, certain Orthodox Jewish organizations are more forthcoming
and admit that the Talmud not only mentions Jesus but disparages him (as
a sorcerer and a demented sex freak). These orthodox Jewish
organizations make this admission perhaps out of the belief that Jewish supremacy is so well-established in the modern world that they need not concern themselves with adverse reactions.
For example, on the website of the Orthodox Jewish Hasidic Lubavitch
group--one of the largest in the world--we find the following
statement, complete with Talmudic citations:
"The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of 'Jesus the
Nazarene':
1) He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews
astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers
for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).
2) He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is
mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness,
and refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).
3) He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used
procedures that involved cutting his flesh, which is also explicitly
banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).
End quote from www.noahide.com... (Lubavitch website)
Originally posted by jonny2410
Can we lay off the Zionist accusations please, oh how i am sick of that term....
Originally posted by jonny2410
reply to post by masonwatcher
Explain to me what is wrong with the fact that i do not like extremists who call themselves Muslims calling for the destruction of another country and expressing their will to bring sharia law to the western world?
Note that is my view and i have said no more than that.
Originally posted by Kram09
reply to post by mr-lizard
I am not sure what your statement has to do with anything.
Also race has nothing to do with religion. Just thought i'd point that out. You do know there are Arab christians etc? To give just one example.
Also your statement was as about as far from neutral as you can get.
Originally posted by masonwatcher
What are zionists going to say? That Joseph diddled Mary?
And this is your analysis of a world religion.
Originally posted by Kram09
You are allowed an opinion of course and i didn't say you were picking on decent hard working muslims. Perhaps you should read the post i replied to. You clearly equated religion with race. Your post is there for all to see.
[edit on 18/7/09 by Kram09]