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Originally posted by Visiting ESB
... comes from a respected journalist...
Originally posted by 2012DragonSlayer
reply to post by Frank Warren
can you link me to the article by Richard W. Heiden?
I cant seem to find it anywhere..
Dear Mr. Heiden:
The Enquirer article to which you refer was entirely fictitious. No such interview ever took place. I did not then and do not now give any credence whatever to the existence of UFOs. I cannot in any instance recall such a story as is claimed I told to Bill Knell regarding a missile test on a remote island. I am sure that if I had witnessed such an incident I would have at some point reported it -- most certainly in my book A Reporter's Life.
Sincerely,
Walter Cronkite
In my book, The Missing Times, I reported on new evidence that CBS TV was among the CIA's “media assets” that participated in this covert UFO-debunking program. In 1966, CBS broadcast UFOs: Friend, Foe or Fantasy, narrated by Walter Cronkite, as part of its “CBS Reports” documentary series. Cronkite assured his viewers, using false and misleading information, that all UFO reports were due to mistaken perceptions.
In short, there was nothing for the public to worry about, he said. A hand-written letter by Robertson Panel member Dr. Thornton Page, discovered in the Smithsonian's archives by Prof. Michael Swords confirms the CIA's long-suspected role in the program. In a 1966 letter, Page related to a CIA associate that he “helped organize the CBS TV show around the Robertson Panel's conclusions.”
Was this the only such case? How likely is it that the Robertson Panel waited 13 years before calling upon one of its media assets to debunk UFOs, only did this once, and somehow managed to get caught red-handed the first and only time? It is far more likely that the CBS program was just one of many such covert propaganda initiatives carried out over the years since the Robertson Panel made its recommendations.
I did not then and do not now give any credence whatever to the
existence of UFOs.
I cannot in any instance recall such a story as is claimed I
told to Bill Knell regarding a missile test on a remote island.
I am sure that if I had witnessed such an incident I would have
at some point reported it -- most certainly in my book A
Reporter=92s Life.
Originally posted by spacevisitor
Hello Frank, due some searching regarding this thread I stumbled on this.
It’s written by Terry Hansen.
In my book, The Missing Times, I reported on new evidence that CBS TV was among the CIA's “media assets” that participated in this covert UFO-debunking program. In 1966, CBS broadcast UFOs: Friend, Foe or Fantasy, narrated by Walter Cronkite, as part of its “CBS Reports” documentary series. Cronkite assured his viewers, using false and misleading information, that all UFO reports were due to mistaken perceptions.
In short, there was nothing for the public to worry about, he said. A hand-written letter by Robertson Panel member Dr. Thornton Page, discovered in the Smithsonian's archives by Prof. Michael Swords confirms the CIA's long-suspected role in the program. In a 1966 letter, Page related to a CIA associate that he “helped organize the CBS TV show around the Robertson Panel's conclusions.”....
Originally posted by JimOberg
Here's a recent note from Robert Hastings, no CIA tool, about this on-going controversy:
On Jul 18, 2009, at 6:17 PM, Robert Hastings wrote:
Dr. Salla,
Classic! Precisely what I would expect from you. The Cronkite story was discredited years ago. Bill Knell?! You are actually citing Bill Knell as a credible source of information?! Why don't you do your homework before you publish or blurt out this kind of nonsense.
As I told you once before, my well-grounded research on the UFO-Nukes Connection can only be harmed by your mentioning it in your incompetently-researched articles. In my view, your public utterances have set back legitimate UFO research by decades.
Ever hear of Richard Hall? He died yesterday. You and your ilk would benefit from reading what credible persons--research giants such as Hall--have published over the years. IMHO, the corrosive effect of your influence is every bit as damaging to the UFO-disclosure process as the disingenuous UFO-debunking articles regularly offered-up by CSICOP/CSI.
I cringe every time I hear someone associate my work with what you publish. Please don't do me any more favors.
Robert Hastings
ufohastings.com
Originally posted by JimOberg
Originally posted by spacevisitor
Hello Frank, due some searching regarding this thread I stumbled on this.
It’s written by Terry Hansen.
In my book, The Missing Times, I reported on new evidence that CBS TV was among the CIA's “media assets” that participated in this covert UFO-debunking program. In 1966, CBS broadcast UFOs: Friend, Foe or Fantasy, narrated by Walter Cronkite, as part of its “CBS Reports” documentary series. Cronkite assured his viewers, using false and misleading information, that all UFO reports were due to mistaken perceptions.
In short, there was nothing for the public to worry about, he said. A hand-written letter by Robertson Panel member Dr. Thornton Page, discovered in the Smithsonian's archives by Prof. Michael Swords confirms the CIA's long-suspected role in the program. In a 1966 letter, Page related to a CIA associate that he “helped organize the CBS TV show around the Robertson Panel's conclusions.”....
I wonder who this 'CIA Associate' Page refers to was supposed to be? Page was an eminent astrophysicist, concentrating on the origin of galaxies, who was also interested in why people believed in UFOs. He co-authored a book with Carl Sagan, "UFOs - A Scientific Debate'. As far as I could tell from my 20+ years professional and personal association with him here at the NASA Johnson Space Center, where he was a 'visiting scientist', he followed nobody's agenda on UFOs. There is no evidence his advice to the CBS program, based on his book with Sagan, had any imprimatur of the CIA, nor did it need any. This is more madness.
Originally posted by fls13
This is terrific stuff!
Originally posted by spacevisitor
It’s written by Terry Hansen.
In my book, The Missing Times, I reported on new evidence that CBS TV was among the CIA's “media assets” that participated in this covert UFO-debunking program. In 1966, CBS broadcast UFOs: Friend, Foe or Fantasy, narrated by Walter Cronkite, as part of its “CBS Reports” documentary series. Cronkite assured his viewers, using false and misleading information, that all UFO reports were due to mistaken perceptions.
It’s one of those CBS broadcasts: Friend, Foe or Fantasy UFO shows, narrated by Walter Cronkite.
See and listen how the by the Air Force send “chief scientific consultant on UFO’s”, Prof. J Allen Hynek explains ?????? the earlier in the program reported by many witnessed sightings at 4:20
Then, if that is not enough madness, see and listen to what the before congressional committee called Air Force secretary Harold Brown said about the phenomenon at 6:20
Originally posted by fls13
I thought the CBS documentary was pretty even handed. I think Hansen's analysis is off, Cronkite says in his summation to keep an open mind on UFOs.
There's some marvelous history captured in the doc. The Michigan sightings reported on were the ones that led to Hynek's infamous Swamp Gas theory and to Gerald Ford calling for the Congressional investigation. Hynek comes off as open minded and we now know he became shortly after the most famous "defector" in Ufology.
Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
A Top Secret craft being witnessed by reporters.
Not likely.
Originally posted by spacevisitor
Don’t understand me wrong, I agree that there is indeed some marvellous history captured in that doc.
But see how that doc in reality unfolds itself back then.
First, you get the impression that they let on a serious looking manner some average decent people like as you said gentleman Frank from Michigan telling there experiences of the sightings/encounter they had.
However, right after that, in the same show, they, the Air Force debunk it all away, humiliate thereby those people and make them look like fools (what is exactly the intention) to the entire show-watching crowd of which amazingly enough most believed what the Air Force said about the UFO phenomenon then and obviously still do.
And see how frank was treated after he had come forward.
That is what I meant regarding madness.
Therefore, it would not surprise me at all that Terry Hansen’s claim that CBS TV was among the CIA's “media assets” that participated in this covert UFO-debunking program could be right, although I gladly would see his evidence for that.