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The JIDF Is On ATS!!!

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posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 12:50 AM
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Who are the JIDF? In my opinion a little more scary than the CIA; which was mentioned in a thread not to long ago. It stands for the Jewish Internet Defense Forces. There site is thejidf.org. I learned about them a while back; during the siege which the Israeli's perpetrated against Gaza. They were part of a coordination of concerned Zionists around the globe; in order to spam blogs, and sites about the oppression of Israel. They did this while murdering Palestinians with white phosphorous, and other tactics deemed to be against the Geneva Convention. Go to their site, and read for yourself. This is their motto, or mission statement on the front page:

leading the fight against antisemitism, and terrorism on the web, coordinating concerned citizens around the globe, and promoting jewish pride, knowledge, and unity.


Now to make a few things clear. I am of Jewish ancestry, and do not claim Zionism. There are many things that most people don't understand. Some examples of this are: A Semite doesn't have to be a Jew; it includes the Palestinians, and others from that area. Zionism is not JUDAISM; Joe Biden, and Tom Delay among many have claimed to be Zionists.

Now back to what the JIDF does. They will coordinate attacks on different Internet sites, forums, and blogs. They do this with other Zionist Fighting Teams to sway public opinion in favor of Israel, and of Zionism. Read the links. They act in a conspiratoral fashion; in which they will act in a hidden manner to disrupt anti Israeli Zionist sites, or arguements. These different fighting teams will come in as ordinary non Zionist people; then raise all sorts of 'flack' until sites, forums, blogs, and ads=revenue are removed. In short they act in economic, and Cyber terrorism.

I wanted to bring this to your attention as Israel is again preparing for an attack on Iran. We are seeing more chatter spouting Iran is bad from anonomous sources; which we can see from other sources that they are from direct government propaganda machines Here's a good link to another thread outlining Oil routes, and choke points. Read it because it applies to the movement toward war that the Zionist Israeli's are doing now.

Should this thread be pulled, or an overwhelming amount of the responses be negative; I'll give all credit to the Economic, and Cyber Terrorists of the JIDF. Soon with passage of recent hate bills, and other countries taking active roles in making it illegal to talk bad about Israel; there will be no voice of the oppression perpetrated by Israel.




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posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 12:56 AM
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They're all over this and other "conspiracy" websites. You can tell who they by:

1. Any criticism of Israel is anti-semitic

2. Deflecting everything back to the Muslims.

3. Placing Israel over jews.



posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 01:12 AM
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but couldn't all of those, simply be, just personal opinions?

mhm, second line here, and place that post wayyy over there.

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posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 01:20 AM
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but couldn't all of those, simply be, just personal opinions?


Absolutely! Many people do give their personal opinions, but if you go through the links provided you'll see that between the US Military, The JIDF, and others, that the 'personal opinions' aren't always that, but opinions of organizations. These are geared at a set agenda of persuasion, and in the end have serious consequences that sway all public opinion.



posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 02:41 AM
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Yes. These people are serious.

Read Kevin MacDonald's three books. Department of Psychology. CSU-Long Beach, California. www.kevinmacdonald.net...


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posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 02:48 AM
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Originally posted by Republican08
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but couldn't all of those, simply be, just personal opinions?

mhm, second line here, and place that post wayyy over there.

[edit on 18-7-2009 by Republican08]


You can tell the difference between a lone person submitting his opinion vs someone who works for an instititute of propaganda. It's especially obvious when you get one person who starts bashing the antisemitic flag, and then another, then another, and another starts saying the same thing. No doubt, they also bomb spam the moderators into meticulously regulating the thread. Another difference is the propaganda will tend to focus on the topic of Israel alone. Posts on other topics will be close to nonexistent, or they will tend to be pointless posts.



posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 02:51 AM
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When the first thing you see in the introductions are warnings about the mods on ATS, then yes I'd agree there must be an agenda and they're partial to something. It may be what you point out. I'm not going to give my opinion, even though it would be very nicely put, someone would disagree and have me banned.

Great post Op (but I don't agree with anything you said) but it was a great post (but mods, really I don't agree with it) .



posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 03:36 AM
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To me it's a bunch of ultras with geek brains and a fanatic suspicious behavior towards the MSM and stuff.

They are adding fuel to the fire



posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 03:57 AM
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You might want to read this thread. It says, you are not allowed to post anything negative on ATS about Israel or Jewish people for any reason. If they set your Grandma on fire in front of you and you have it on video, keep it to yourself, it will be considered hate speech by ATS.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 04:21 AM
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It's hard to tell if someone just has a view or if they are being paid to troll forums,blogs,social network sites etc for propaganda reasons. Its clear as day when it comes to youtube but not so much on sites like this.Best to remember that they exist but it can also lead to a cop out by someone just yelling disinfo at a person they dont agree with.Plus im sure they only go on over drive when there is a good reason to ie in a conflict.Im sure other countries do this too.



posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 04:24 AM
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Originally posted by wyleecoyote
You might want to read this thread. It says, you are not allowed to post anything negative on ATS about Israel or Jewish people for any reason. If they set your Grandma on fire in front of you and you have it on video, keep it to yourself, it will be considered hate speech by ATS.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


There is a big difference between obvious troll posting in an inflammatory subject and just posting criticism. I don't really think we have nazis on here, but there sure are a lot of folks who get riled up over the Gaza conflict, on both sides. The guidelines aren't there to shut anyone's opinion up, but just to ensure that the threads here can be conducted in a civil way with little to no moderation, and ensuring ATS maintains it's reputation as a quality discussion board.



posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 04:31 AM
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Zionist - the conspiracy theorist's favourite term.

Jesus aren't we all sick of this #.



posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 07:02 AM
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Originally posted by jonny2410
Zionist - the conspiracy theorist's favourite term.

Jesus aren't we all sick of this #.


They should stop popping up in so many conspiracies then



posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 01:05 PM
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I'm not tired of Zionism popping up in conspiracies. It's the tie that binds. You don't have to be Jewish to be a Zionist. Joe Biden(d), and Tom Delay(r) both claim their Zionists.

I'll tell you what really p*sses me off is that zionism overall 'reflect's' on non Zionist Jews, and there are a lot of us out there. Giving us a bad rap just like the average US American does throughout a lot of the world.

I can see all sorts of opinions regarding Gaza, but there is the real one of humanity, and then the paid shill version.

People being murdered by genocidal means, and now being starved out is the truth, and I'll take the real truth of the matter, and side with humanity.



posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 01:14 PM
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I am sure as hell not JIDF, I'm not Jewish, I'm not Israeli, but this blue-eyed, blonde-haired southern American has heard enough anti-Israeli/Jewish hatred on ATS alone to make me think that maybe this JIDF is completely justified.

And I am one one those who does in fact call it like it is, and I do in fact, in stating facts, deflect much of the blame right back on the Muslims. If there is a stupid way to do something, believe me, they'll figure it out and embrace it wholly.

So call me what you will, but Israel has been in a fight for its very life since inception, and I've watched for decades myself.



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posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 01:34 PM
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I really wish you would stop insinuating anti-israeli and anti-jewish are one in the same which you are clearly trying to do and do every chance you get.You know its nonsense,we all know its nonsense.But you keep regurgitating it like a broken record...its just idiotic when you know there are many jews who also oppose the israeli government.Answer me that simple question.Jewish people against the israeli government...both inside Israel and outside israel? are they anti-jewish jews?



posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 01:52 PM
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Ah, I can see where your coming from. Drop all debates, eh? You might find yourself very religious coming from the South. You spun the article 'more directed' at a Jewish Muslim issue; could you yourself be religious? Possibly, a Christian Zionist. ; there is no hate here, but understanding. The hate is perpetrated on the people of Gaza daily.

Here you'll see a first hand account of the IDF stopping humanitarian aid into Gaza. Of course due to the hate bills mentioned in the OP, and with the help of Israeli Internet Fighting Teams, we won't be able to say anything about........

Or here where you'll see more disinformation teams/shills pumping out more lies to create possibly WW3. Of coarse, with the hate bills putting this truth on the net could quite possibly be labeled as hate.......even though the sources always remain 'anon'

Or here we can see how intrinsically involved, or in bed the US is with Israel.. Israel's cute big attack dog; with all 545 law makers paid, and protected by AIPAC. Of course again, with coming legislation this will not be able to be broadcast on the Net.

I guess you all can sit ignorantly back. Continue sleeping in your long night of content, and ignorant bliss. Forget about the real truth that the IDF is burning crops in Gaza for no reason. Just hope that karma, and all the power's of the Cosmos don't come back too you for payback in the future.



posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 01:54 PM
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Ha ha ha, that made me laugh. I don't hate myself, and I know many other Jews that don't hate themselves, and we don't care for what the Israeli's are doing.

I'd have to wonder by 'dooper's' logic, If Joe Biden, and Tom Delay claim Zionism, then does that mean they have cross culture identity problems? LMAO!



posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 02:56 PM
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I'm not racist towards any race, but some Israeli leaders themselves have said that they have the US in their back pocket, in more or less words. Their intelligence agencies have access to all of the phone lines in this country, etc. with their technology (and I'm sure the US has the same technology). They can phone tap anyone they want in this country without even having to come here, by using technology. Zionism is a MASSIVE lobby in Washington, that is undeniable for anyone who has been watching without a passion-stained mind. Many Washington insiders tell you this themselves, and no, they are not racist either. Like I said, even some Israelis themselves will tell you as much and have no problem with it because they are confident nothing is going to be done about it. Since people can't separate politics from racism, or since they line can be blurred so easily for so many of the more gullible Americans, business will simply carry on as usual for these lobbies.

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