reply to post by LeeannaHolland
ya know, I'm sorry, but this argument of socialism/capitalism is getting old...
it's not the system, it's the people using the system!!!
I grew up in a society that was a purer form of capitalism, and well....the divide between the rich and the poor was no where near as big as it is
now! my doctor didn't live in a big mansion in the rich section of town, he lived up the street from me, ya in a nicer house, but well we were poor,
what do you expect? but their lifestyle wasn't that outrageously different than our own.
now our capitalism is mingled in with a little socialism, and it seems that the greedy capitalists have found a way use the system to increase their
they think of nice ways to help the "poor" and they stand at the backend of these programs and rake in more money that my old doctor could ever
dream of! after all, my doctor knew we were poor, if he wanted us as his customers, he would have to keep his fees within a reasonable range to
accomodate us! now days, who cares how much the doctor, hospitals, ect are charging, ain't no patient gonna be concerned with it (unless of course
they are too rich to be considered "poor" while being too poor to be considered well off enough to afford the outrageous insurance
premiums...everyone else, even those here that are griping about us becomming socialists....aren't really caring about how much their medical bills
are costing, since well....they are taking part in some socialist program (yes, the concept of insurance IS SOCIALISTIC), and the bills are being
paid with money that has been contributed by a group of people. only now, we have the people managing these pools of money making sure they get their
share of the cut also....which for some of the upper management in the insurance companies is up around a million or so dollars a year, profit for the
shareholder, ect. ect...
the more hands the money flows through to obtain a commodity or service for the "poor", the more the cost will be!! and let's all face one
fact...when it comes to healthcare in the US.....probably 90% of the people ARE POOR!! there is no way that they could pay their own healthcare bills
without relying on a source of money pooled somewhere, either an insurance company or government agency.
obama's plan is flawed in that it just pushes us all into the pools, instead of pushing for something that we can all obtain independently without
relying on these pools....
independence=freedom, freedom to chose your doctors, and how that doctor will treat you...
dependence takes that freedom from you, places it into the hands of the government, or insurance company...they get to chose the doctors you get to
see, the treatment that you will get...
and of course, as we are all seeing....your personal lifestyle choices!!!
personallly, I don't see much difference between it being an insurance company making these choices, or the government.....either way, it's a loss
of freedom on my end, and I am just a slave to the system....
but, one thing I will tell ya, before yous start taking those freedoms away people on the basis of "it's increasing your healthcare costs" you
best make danged sure that their healthcare is being taking care of!! which is what many of yas seem to want to do...control their lifestyles, gripe
about what they are eating, about their smoking, about their lack of excercise (and heck, you don't even know the people you are griping
about!!)...but, well, you could care less if they healthcare needs are taken care of or not!
we invade countries in the name of freedom, why are we working so hard, coming up with so many different scams, that will serve to remove that freedom
from our own citizens?