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Topic started on 16-7-2009 @ 09:37 PM by warrenb
ok this is coming directly from the mouth of the Director of the Congressional Budget Office, what he's saying sounds pretty important


Under current law, the federal budget is on an unsustainable path, because federal debt will continue to grow much faster than the economy over the long run. Although great uncertainty surrounds long-term fiscal projections, rising costs for health care and the aging of the population will cause federal spending to increase rapidly under any plausible scenario for current law. Unless revenues increase just as rapidly, the rise in spending will produce growing budget deficits. Large budget deficits would reduce national saving, leading to more borrowing from abroad and less domestic investment, which in turn would depress economic growth in the United States. Over time, accumulating debt would cause substantial harm to the economy. The following chart shows our projection of federal debt relative to GDP under the two scenarios we modeled.


Under current law, spending on Social Security is also projected to rise over time as a share of GDP, but much less sharply. CBO projects that Social Security spending will increase from less than 5 percent of GDP today to about 6 percent in 2035 and then roughly stabilize at that level. Meanwhile, as depicted below, government spending on all activities other than Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and interest on federal debt—a broad category that includes national defense and a wide variety of domestic programs—is projected to decline or stay roughly stable as a share of GDP in future decades.


The current recession and policy responses have little effect on long-term projections of noninterest spending and revenues. But CBO estimates that in fiscal years 2009 and 2010, the federal government will record its largest budget deficits as a share of GDP since shortly after World War II. As a result of those deficits, federal debt held by the public will soar from 41 percent of GDP at the end of fiscal year 2008 to 60 percent at the end of fiscal year 2010. This higher debt results in permanently higher spending to pay interest on that debt. Federal interest payments already amount to more than 1 percent of GDP; unless current law changes, that share would rise to 2.5 percent by 2020.

cboblog.cbo.gov...

He appears to be painting a bleak outlook indeed.


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reply posted on 16-7-2009 @ 09:59 PM by LeeannaHolland
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You are complaining about the cost..... But this is so necessary. There are uninsured CHILDREN. And PEOPLE that are not wealthy are not covered...

It is about time we started to care about the 'undesirables.' A new way is coming, to provide for every American.

I think people need to start looking out for others, personally. We are all in this together.


reply posted on 16-7-2009 @ 10:01 PM by argentus
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I wondered about a month ago........... briefly.......... but no, I don't believe President Obama's intention is to run the country into the ground. I hope his health care plan works. I really do.

The sorrowful state of the economy is not all his fault. He inherited a mess, IMO. I don't think that what has been done thus far is the right track. Regrettfully, I think the right track is to let big business fail, and eventually with a Roosevelt-like "new deal", perhaps recover sooner than later.

We'll see. I wish the U.S. the best; we're all linked, like it or not.


reply posted on 16-7-2009 @ 10:05 PM by jam321
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He inherited a mess, IMO.


Yes, he did, but he was well aware of the mess he was inheriting. Remember how he kept stumping that he had the best plan to fix the economy.

Inherited or not, it is on his plate now.



reply posted on 16-7-2009 @ 10:09 PM by argentus
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Agree.

There has always been a wealth of hopeful rhetoric in advance of running for the office of President. This is the Show, time to produce, no question; the time to perfect the curveball was before the game.


reply posted on 16-7-2009 @ 10:17 PM by SPC_D
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There are uninsured CHILDREN. And PEOPLE that are not wealthy are not covered...


Indeed there are but I do not want to pay for them to get coverage plan and simple I can barely make it as it is and to add more taxes on top of what I pay is asking too much.
I am sorry if it sounds cold hearted of me however I simply can’t afford to spend more for something I don't get nor want and the American people should not want this type of reform ether.
it is irresponsible of the government to spend like this 1 trillion$ for this and why not another trillion for that to and than Oh hey this needs fixed so lets spend more money we don't have we will just up taxes some more, make the people pay it's not our money.

Sad.


reply posted on 16-7-2009 @ 10:31 PM by LostNemesis
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I will agree, a trillion is a lot to spend. But at the same time, the way they been spending... a trillion USED to look a lot more impressive to me. Now when I hear trillion on the news, I don't even blink. It's like it's a tiny amount now.
Perhaps we have already entered massive inflation and it just hasn't been told to us yet.

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reply posted on 16-7-2009 @ 10:38 PM by SPC_D
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I will not retract what I said I stand by my thoughts and words all thoe I am not so eloquent when it comes to the way I type or talk.
However there are in many states programs to provide health care for those who can not afford it like for instance OHP (Oregon health plan) and I fully support these in fact a number of my friends are doctors MD. and volunteer there time at free clinics to further this goal and they travel to homeless shelters and provide free of cost health care.
So than why do we need a government plan and why do I need to pay for it when I do not nor will I ever use it.


I took out a word made my post sound hostile and it was not intended that way sorry LostNemesis.



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reply posted on 16-7-2009 @ 11:06 PM by Divinorumus
Originally posted by warrenb
He appears to be painting a bleak outlook indeed.

(with a disappointing shiver and sniffling whine in my voice: ) But .. but .. but .. but Savior Obama said everything was going to be getting better now, and he's not a liar liar, is he? In fact, I think I heard him say we can even afford government subsidized health care now. Hey, I want to live to be 120, and with that spiffy new government provided health care, I should be able to get a spiffy new government provided heart every 5 years, a new shiny new liver every 3 years, and a new colon transplant ever two years (them government parts still come with a warranty, right?).

Say, I have an idea. (shifting to strong sarcasm now: ) Lets enact a whole bunch of new entitlements and benefits for ourselves now while we have the chance, make them all law, and then get our descendants to pay for it all. Suckers, we'll enslave them all and make them take care of us until we're 150 years old. Free health care, free retirement income, a free place to live, free food, free cable TV too, right? RIGHT? Come on, lets party hardy today, and make our grandchildren pay for our needy needs and wanty wants for the next 100 years. Yippee, Savior Obama has come to save the day, by enslaving our grandchild to pay for our party today. Bless that gangsta thief Obama, I can feel his hands in my pockets already. Whoa, watch it dude, that wasn't a roll of quarters there.

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