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Nearly all my professors are Democrats. Isn't that a problem?

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posted on Jul, 16 2009 @ 02:52 PM
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Eugene, Ore. - When I began examining the political affiliation of faculty at the University of Oregon, the lone conservative professor I spoke with cautioned that I would "make a lot of people unhappy."

Though I mostly brushed off his warning – assuming that academia would be interested in such discourse – I was careful to frame my research for a column for the school newspaper diplomatically.

The University of Oregon (UO), where I study journalism, invested millions annually in a diversity program that explicitly included "political affiliation" as a component. Yet, out of the 111 registered Oregon voters in the departments of journalism, law, political science, economics, and sociology, there were only two registered Republicans.

A number of conservative students told me they felt Republican ideas were frequently caricatured and rarely presented fairly. Did the dearth of conservative professors on campus and apparent marginalization of ideas on the right belie the university's commitment to providing a marketplace of ideas?

In my column, published in the campus newspaper The Oregon Daily Emerald June 1, I suggested that such a disparity hurt UO. I argued that the lifeblood of higher education was subjecting students to diverse viewpoints and the university needed to work on attracting more conservative professors.

www.csmonitor.com...

This is a real problem in many Universities, and Colleges around the U.S. Liberal Universities, and Colleges don't really allow for "diversity of ideas" when it comes to the Conservative mindset.

BTW, the journalists even states he is neither a Conservative, nor a Republican, yet he sees this as a problem more so when the Democrat/Liberal professors, and faculty members resorted to insulting him, and making derogatory comments for this journalist bringing up this issue.

Here is the part where he states what I said above.


What's so remarkable is that I hadn't actually advocated Republican ideas or conservative ideas. In fact, Im not a conservative, nor a Republican. I simply believe in the concept of diversity – a primarily liberal idea – and think that we suffer when we don't include ideas we find unappealing.


This is a real problem in the U.S. and in great part the reason why we are in the mess we are in, not to mention why Americans are so divided.

This doesn't only happen in Colleges, and Universities, but unfortunately the same thing has occurred even on the internet, including in forums.



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posted on Jul, 16 2009 @ 02:57 PM
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I also view this as a problem

At the university level, students should be exposed to various sides of an argument and then be allowed to argue(in papers etc) for whichever side they choose. Their grades should not be based on political viewpoints but rather on the strengths of their arguments.

In areas of study that do not involve politics, professors should keep their political beliefs to themselves.



posted on Jul, 16 2009 @ 02:58 PM
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And yet, somehow, I don't see where Conservative political ideology in the U.S. is in any in danger of becoming extinct. Why do you suppose that is?

Maybe because you should give people (including students) more credit for researching and exploring various political viewpoints, and making a decision for themselves about what they want to endorse -- if any.

It doesn't seem to be unduly influencing you. So what's the problem? Unless you want to consider yourself to be so much smarter than all the other student "sheeple" out there.


[edit on 16-7-2009 by Nohup]



posted on Jul, 16 2009 @ 02:59 PM
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You will find this "trend" at just about any university. Professors tend to have more liberal views and are not as "narrow minded". So, it makes sense that they tend to lean towards democratic or independent political views. Is it a problem? Only if you want to be taught that "the world is flat" and "the sun revolves around the earth".

Just my 2-cents



posted on Jul, 16 2009 @ 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by SonyAD
Might be a problem, if you value being educated by morons.


Are you even an American?.... I guess the forefathers who made the Republic where also "morons" like you claim?...

But hey, that's the typical response from an uneducated, ignorant Liberal.


Let's just hope that enough Liberals are not like you...



posted on Jul, 16 2009 @ 03:07 PM
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I agree completely with you.

I attended two different Colleges in south Florida, Miami Dade Community College had mostly Liberal professors, and one of these professors was not only extremely biased towards Socialism, and even Communism not having ever experienced them, but made a point that these were the best forms of government, and economic policy. I had to leave that class simply for the fact that i was indoctrinated and raised part of my life in a Communist dictatorship that was indoctrinating people since childhood in these same ideals that were being taught in Miami Dade Community College. I asked around to some of my friends who had also actually experienced Communism and they told me the same thing.

Many of us just transferred to other colleges simply because even when we brought this to the faculty they said they did not see anything wrong with what was being taught.



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posted on Jul, 16 2009 @ 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by Aggie Man
reply to post by ElectricUniverse
 

You will find this "trend" at just about any university. Professors tend to have more liberal views and are not as "narrow minded". So, it makes sense that they tend to lean towards democratic or independent political views. Is it a problem? Only if you want to be taught that "the world is flat" and "the sun revolves around the earth".

Just my 2-cents


A couple of good posts, ruined by calling all conservatives stupid?!

Yes this is a very apparent trend. Oddly, guess where you find the "non-liberals"? Hmmm? Guessers? They are in the Math, Science, and Engineering departments.

Maybe they are too busy studying, building, adding info, and improving lives to be as "open minded" as some folks would like!

The "Liberal Arts" attracts "Liberals" big surprise there. Economics, Business, Marketing, etc., attract the party and social crowd of students and professors. The hard sciences attract a little nerdier crowd. The logical, discerning, evaluating types.

So, I have seen the effects of liberal professors first hand. I like them, they are entertaining, they provide great debates. I don't see a problem as long as the students are aware that something isn't necessarily true just because your professor says so!

BTW, my degree was Chemistry, with minors in Math, Physics, and an emphasis in Engineering. So, as a Conservative Republican, I know the Earth isn't flat, but if I wanted to prove it was, I could probably make a great case for it!



posted on Jul, 16 2009 @ 03:12 PM
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more college professors are democrats?

hmmm maybe thats a sign or something....

nahhhhhhh

its got nothing to do with the fact that people are more likely to be democrats the more education they get



posted on Jul, 16 2009 @ 03:13 PM
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Originally posted by Nohup
And yet, somehow, I don't see where Conservative political ideology in the U.S. is in any in danger of becoming extinct. Why do you suppose that is?

Maybe because you should give people (including students) more credit for researching and exploring various political viewpoints, and making a decision for themselves about what they want to endorse -- if any.

It doesn't seem to be unduly influencing you. So what's the problem? Unless you want to consider yourself to be so much smarter than all the other student "sheeple" out there.


When students are not given a choice, and are instead indoctrinated towards an idea, they are more likely to accept such ideas as being true. More so since they haven't experienced true Socialism, or even Communism.

I wasn't born in the U.S. I was born and raised part of my life in a Communist dictatorship which indoctrinates the same ideologies taught in colleges accross the U.S.

Lucklily my parents and I were able to leave Cuba, thanks to our family in Spain, and we went to Spain where I also went to school and where i lived for almost 10 years.

So, do i have, alongside many other people who have had similar experiences, more understanding of what is happening in the U.S.? Yes. Because i see Americans have been indoctrinated to accept and believe the Socialist/Communist propaganda which now even the Republic is being transformed into.



posted on Jul, 16 2009 @ 03:17 PM
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I think its mainly a geographical problem... If I'm correct, and I might not be, but Oregan is a liberal state, so it makes sense that they have a more liberal faculty. I'm sure if you went to a more conservative state the faculties would lean that way.

It also depends on the subject, the college is (for the most part) going to hire those that follow whatever the accepted norm is for that subject. Political beliefs may play into things depending on the subject...

Go to Notre Dame and see how many liberal professors you find... from what I understand, not to many...



posted on Jul, 16 2009 @ 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by ELECTRICkoolaidZOMBIEtest
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its got nothing to do with the fact that people are more likely to be democrats the more education they get


Those are nothing more than ignorant comments...

I speak, write, and read fluently in three languages, and I can understand most romance languages not to mention the fact that I graduated and have degrees in computer, and in electronics engineering. Graduated Salutatorian with highest honors, and even in high school I graduated with honors in the top 5% of my school.

I can tell you that there are as many Republicans/Conservatives who are as educated as Liberals can be...

Seriously, people like you should feel ashamed of making such stupid comments.



posted on Jul, 16 2009 @ 03:27 PM
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Is more than that. I have made the point before that the United States alongside many other countries are being turned into Socialist dictatorships. This is the reason why Americans are being indoctrinated to believe, and accept the Socialist/Communist propaganda.

Only under a Socialist dictatorship can a One World Government exist, and in order to do that you have to convert most governments into Socialism, or even Communism which is the last stage.



posted on Jul, 16 2009 @ 03:27 PM
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www.commondreams.org...


it would seem what i said is the trend that conservatives are afraid of and apparently is happening.

you should be ashamed of yourself
you claim you can read, but i see you cant. because i never said anything about republicans/conservatives being uneducated.


[edit on 16-7-2009 by ELECTRICkoolaidZOMBIEtest]



posted on Jul, 16 2009 @ 03:28 PM
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Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
When students are not given a choice, and are instead indoctrinated towards an idea, they are more likely to accept such ideas as being true. More so since they haven't experienced true Socialism, or even Communism.


I think you'd have to prove that. And the strength of Conservative political organization and thought in the U.S. (even amongst college students) would tend to dispute your theory that people of a certain age will blindly accept anything taught to them.



posted on Jul, 16 2009 @ 03:33 PM
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Oh right...the claims from a Liberal website makes it true....


There have also been claims that black people are less intelligent than people of other races, and even such proponents have given what they call "evidence", but of course most people with any common sense actually know this is nothing more than an attempt to demean and insult black people who are as intelligent as people from any other race...

Should I feel ashamed of pointing out the facts?... not really.

Then again when you resort to do nothing more than insult and demean people who have different ideas than you, your argument is shown to be nothing more than ignorant propaganda.



posted on Jul, 16 2009 @ 03:34 PM
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The type of school also plays a huge part. A friend who attended Savannah College of Art and Design became quite indoctrinated into what some call 'liberal' concepts. Prior to college he didn't have a side of the fence, but during and after it became quite apparent that there was a good chunk of programming being pushed in the school.

The real problem is that until we start nuking the brains of professors there is no real way to stop them shoving their ideology (and almost all of them do) on the students, so the only way to guard against it is to make the students aware that they will be facing such things in school and to appropriately take things with a grain of salt.



posted on Jul, 16 2009 @ 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by getreadyalready
A couple of good posts, ruined by calling all conservatives stupid?!


Not what I was trying to convey. Perhaps better phrasing could have been used. Point being: Liberals are more open minded when it comes to change and acceptance that their way of thinking could be wrong/need adjustment/etc. Republicans are more traditionalist and go against the grain when it comes to change/admitting they are wrong. Universities want their professors to liberal and open so that the next generation will have the opportunity to broaden their mind, not narrow it/keep it narrow.

Not saying republicans are stupid, just OLD FASHION....nothing wrong with that...but an old fashion professor is not going to accept new science...not going to teach new science...and will not inspire the youth of American universities to seek out or be on the cutting edge of new science.

EDIT: as a side note, it's not just universities. Being a democrat has been on the rise, whilst republicans are an apparent dying breed.

[edit on 16-7-2009 by Aggie Man]



posted on Jul, 16 2009 @ 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by Nohup
I think you'd have to prove that. And the strength of Conservative political organization and thought in the U.S. (even amongst college students) would tend to dispute your theory that people of a certain age will blindly accept anything taught to them.


Really? why was it that so many 18 year olds, and college students were sucked into voting for who now is President?

Obama has even called for a civilian military force that will awnser only to him, and that should be as organized, as well trained, and as well funded as the military. Not to mention that he, alongside Emmanuel Rham have called for mandatory Community Service which takes away the right of Americans to CHOOSE whether they want to do Community Service, and how much time they can, or want to use to work for free for the STATE.

We are seeing Socialist programs being implemented in the U.S., and the Republic being transformed into a Socialist dictatorship having the same programs, and laws which existed in other dictatorships such as NAZI Germany, as well as in Communist dictatorships.



posted on Jul, 16 2009 @ 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by ElectricUniverse

Nearly all my professors are Democrats. Isn't that a problem?


only if you listen to them.







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