The 6000 year old megalithic complex of Meath County Ireland, page 2


Pages: <<  1    2    3    4  >>
ATS Members have flagged this thread 91 times


reply posted on 16-7-2009 @ 09:47 PM by UmbraSumus
Originally posted by HunkaHunka


Anyone else with experience? From what I can tell they also have Solstice ceremonies there in what looks to be a much more intimate setting than Stonehenge... has anyone been to one of these?

I'm incredibly interested as to what effect the light plays on the white quartz which lines the face of Newgrange.


Nicely constructed OP HunkaHunka .

To answer your question , yes i have been to Newgrange at sunrise , during winter solstice . I wasn`t lucky enough to be in the chamber .... but it certainly was a moment that resonated with me.

There is definitely a powerful sense of *continuity* , with humans congregating on that spot to greet the sun on the shortest day of the year. An event no doubt, once filled with a certain trepidation , to a peoples who understood all too well that the sun was life itself.

As another poster stated , the Pyramids are more visually stunning and would dwarf the megalithic complex ...........yes, Newgrange does not have same Ego issues.

They allow a certain amount of people into the chamber to witness the suns rays shaft through the "window", up the passageway , and illuminate the inter chamber .

Would you like to one of them .........?

They hold a draw every year to choose the lucky few .

There is no on-line application system, however the obliging Staff at the Visitor Centre will fill out a form on your behalf. Email your postal details and a contact telephone number and they will complete an application form on your behalf.

source
Email: brunaboinne@opw.ie

A group of us visited several different interesting sites on the day .
Warning !
The shortest day of the year with a jam packed schedule of places to visit will leave you frozen, in a field in Monasterboise attempting to put a tent up in the dark. Morning light revealed our impromptu camp site over looked the ruins of a Cistercian Abbey.

Ireland ....... your only a few fields away from something ancient .



Edit to add: The site was all but forgotten until the OPW, Office of public works did a lot of remedial work to the site a few decades back.

[edit on 16-7-2009 by UmbraSumus]



reply posted on 16-7-2009 @ 09:48 PM by Dean Goldberry
reply to post by audas



It predates Egypt according to MAINSTREAM Egyptology, and that may be true, but equally valid a theory is that the Egyptian pyramids (particularly the Great Pyramid Khufu) are far older. Both Giza and Baalbek (Lebanon) show far more impressive stonework than anything in Europe/Britain/Ireland - possibly indicative of greater methodology/technology before the devolution that's been in place since sometime before known history.


reply posted on 16-7-2009 @ 11:13 PM by favouriteslave
Originally posted by Dean Goldberry
reply to
post by audas



It predates Egypt according to MAINSTREAM Egyptology, and that may be true, but equally valid a theory is that the Egyptian pyramids (particularly the Great Pyramid Khufu) are far older. Both Giza and Baalbek (Lebanon) show far more impressive stonework than anything in Europe/Britain/Ireland - possibly indicative of greater methodology/technology before the devolution that's been in place since sometime before known history.



Excellent post OP!

I too believe the pyramids are far older than they are telling us. I believe they were made either before or during the age of Leo, hence the Sphinx near by.


reply posted on 16-7-2009 @ 11:16 PM by favouriteslave
halfmoon.tripod.com... That is the Spain/Celt connection. Haplo groups tend to be the same time and again between the groups. Also explains why the northern Spanish are so fair. I'm wondering if any of these types of structures exist in Spain or is it simply something that is completely indigenous to Ireland.

[edit on 16-7-2009 by favouriteslave]


reply posted on 17-7-2009 @ 12:24 AM by antipigopolist
Very interesting OP! The Sundial from Knowth, in particular. There have been a few theories posted here and elsewhere as to the meaning of the CW and CCW spirals found on the Sundial...GOD/Universe/Soul...Fibonacci Sequence=Golden Ratio=Sacred Geometry. I would offer this as something that just "rang true" when looking at the spirals.

What if...

Now...it's obvious that the person or persons who designed this sundial had a solid grasp of astronomy and the celestial heavens. And the patience and attention to detail needed to carve this tablet may have just revealed to the observers another interesting earth oddity while looking to the heavens. The stars arrived at a slightly different location in the sky a year later from what was previously tracked. Could these spirals be representative of this observed anomaly? I would consider that these spirals may represent:

Chandler's Wobble and it's phase shift.





"The chandler wobble doesn't really have any effect on most people. The people who live with it on a daily basis are astronomers using earth-based telescopes and people using various navigation systems. With telescopes, the wobble affects the ability to point at a star accurately. The Chandler wobble also affects celestial navigation, since the latitude does change over a period of 14 months. Global Positioning Systems, (GPS), can overcome the effect of the wobble on navigation. Navigators' star charts, however, still have to be updated to show the new reference point for the geographic North and South Poles."

Just a thought...

[edit on 17-7-2009 by antipigopolist]


reply posted on 17-7-2009 @ 12:49 AM by andrewh7
Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to
post by HunkaHunka



Well the black supremacist claim Africans were in Ireland and did that. Bull#.

The ufo crowd claims aliens landed and educated the people. Also bull#.

Here we have the simple fact that a group of people on the edge of the known world, if left to their own, will begin to develop.

Bare in mind Ireland is pretty peaceful, isolated, and simple. The perfect place for a civilization to begin.

Thunk about it. All the great civs developed in places isolated, cut off, and with resources readily available.

The only question is what did these people in.


Black Supremacist? Do you have a source for that claim because I have never heard anyone claim that Africans built this thing. Googling key words only produces your own post.


reply posted on 17-7-2009 @ 07:32 AM by asIam
Gosh, surprised to see such enthusiasm here at ATS for something I've always taken for granted,
but nonetheless, which has always held huge importance in the framework of my being.
Then again, I spent my teenage years growing up in Dublin,
and so Newgrange is a very familiar/closetoheartspirit place to me.
To share an experience, as an early irish history enthusiast,
as a child of nature spirit,and universe and not of the catholic church
I was born into, visiting Newgrange was always big on my wish list.
I finally got to do so at age 15 when I on impulse one beautiful blue sky day bunked school
and crossed via many buses from sth Dublin to meath,destination Newgrange. Those were the days pre globalisation and busloads of tourists arriving hourly.
What can't be seen in the pics in the op , is a ring of standing stones around the structure.
On my arrival, it was about midday, and there was ONE busload of tourists being given a tour of the actual structure.
I was content to just be there finally myself, and sat facing the sun with my back against one of these stones while waiting for the busload to leave.
I had a desperate need in me at that time in my life to reach back to my prechristian ancestors, to connect with those who lived the lifestyle I wanted to be living,to feel SOME connection I guess in this out of sync world.
Anyway, I sat against the standing stone and let myself "slip".
Those that slip , know what I mean, to those that don't ,mmmm, hard to explain, Time and Space thing,swapping/warping dimensions sort of.
So I enter this atmosphere that is really "thick like" ,and I was really aware of the energy in every atom of me,I felt strong, I WAS strong.
And it was in me resonating from this place,like all life source,deep, slow frequency energy.
A powerful ancient primeval energy, so heavy , swallowing was slow and hard-that kind of thick atmosphere.
Well that's all really,no ancient civilization visitations or swirling of stars or anything.
Just a very thick shuddering energy that took you over but wasn't unpleasant,just you knew you were in a place much older than you,
and HUGELY aware than it was an energy node of some sort ,and it didn't make you feel lesser than it or that it was majesty or anything,
just that you knew something passed thru you, and to be honest once I came back to the moment, I felt a heavy sick feeling like travel sickness or something,went and checked out the inside of the place,was struck by it's ancient mystery ( not solstice so no witnessing of mathematical wonders ), and did the return jaunt across city to be home at end of school time, nobody any the wiser.
For several days though , I carried that heavy energy inside me , and the nausea that accompanied it.
Sorry to dribble on so long,
but yeah, the place is special, and special to me personally.
As a previous poster said,looks like nothing special, but if you can get the quiet peace to release into the place while there,
you'll know what I'm talking about.
namaste,and,
thanks for the memories.

[edit on 17/7/09 by asIam]



reply posted on 17-7-2009 @ 10:25 AM by noconsequence
reply to post by HunkaHunka



Really cool post. S&F. The swirl in Egyptian hieroglyphs is the symbol for a year/span of time. Since most similar writings tend to mean similar things. It could be interpreted as the god Osiris,the physical universe, current, a god,etc. I would say that that would be a good place to start.

You gave me something fun to try to translate.

Thank you.

Noconsequence..

[edit on 17-7-2009 by noconsequence]


reply posted on 17-7-2009 @ 12:07 PM by brodyism
your getting closer to decoding them, crop circles are obviously related. So are Egyptian temples, Ankor Wat, Mayan cities as well as Inca and Aztec, Ancient Indian temples and ancient buddhist temples. They all have similar stylistic renderings as well as constructions. When you begin connecting all the megalithic sites together with lines a certain angle keeps coming up: 135 degrees. All these sites were promptly abandoned after they were built but if you assume they went to another place and began building similar buildings somewhere else that the style and skill of building these structures would change and evolve over time, which it has. Crop circles are simply the newest technology for whatever they are doing with these structures which I believe is tapping energy from the earth. Solar, lunar and other star alignments may be the activators for these powerhouses.
There are a number of reasons that they would be abandoned after construction was finished.
-like solar panels, once they are installed they generate power with no maintenance or user input. (what i think)
-the spread of humans or internal conflicts (if they are human). Ankor Wat supposedly had millions of people inhabiting the area while London was losing its population of 500,000 during the Black Plague and yet there is no record of the people or bones to study in Ankor Wat.
-natural disasters
and other things...
A good book to read which explains the relation to Stonehenge and cropcircles is The Gods Machine's by Wun Chok Bong
it piqued my interest on this subject


reply posted on 17-7-2009 @ 02:57 PM by druid1
Excellent Post Dude.

I also find these two facts fascinating about New Grange

When I was thinking about the Crop Circles I remembered the book I bought when I visited by Michael J. O’Kelly titled Archaeology, Art and Legend. ISBN 0-500-27371-5 Thames & Hudson.

I found Kerbstone 13 and 18 to be of extremely interesting.

Both stones contain hundreds of motifs which are no longer visible as they have been replaced as found.
These Kerbstones are absolutely covered in spirals, motifs.
The Underside of Kerbstone 18 show the runic symbol for strength and the Ogham script for the Birch representing the First tree in the Celtic Tree oracle.

The monument is understood to be closely related to the Winter Solstice – Dec 21
The Birch Tree represent the first symbol in ogham script meaning the start of a cycle The Runic is ae a one of the extra Nordic vowels with a sound like ay it also represents strength

“Newgrange was also the subject of televised experiment in which a sound wave from a source in the inner chamber, resonating at 110 Hz, alternated from loud to soft along the passage rather than simply fading as it moved further from the source".

A Laboratory experiment demonstrated the movement of the wave, if the passage were filled with smoke or steam, would be VISIBLE as the sort of pattern found in the rock art of the monument”



It seems that whoever built this place was not only capturing light but was also playing around with sound at the same time.

Does anyone have any pictures of The rearside of Kebstones 13 and 18 or a video of the programme.

New Grange is certainly an Enigma


reply posted on 17-7-2009 @ 03:20 PM by lazy1981
reply to post by antipigopolist



Chandler's Wobble....... I haven't heard about that in a long time, great theory! This serevs to reiterate what I was saying about Sacred Geometry. It is said that it is "in" and "of" the universe by design. And that the universe was designed upon it. Supposedly you can find the Golden Ratio of Sacred Geometry in all things. Resulting in this spiral and Fibonacci Sequence (named after the medieval mathmatician Leonardo Pisano) aka Fibonacci. He was just the one that stumbled upon it he didn't think it up as some would think. It has always been there as you have demonstrated with Chandler's Wobble.........
Pages: <<  1    2    3    4  >>    ^^TOP^^



More Mysterious Nazca Lines From Space
  Posted 6 days ago with 124 member flags
The Aztec and Norse god of war are both missing one hand.
  Posted 17 days ago with 48 member flags
63,000-Year-Old Modern Human Skull Found in Laos
  Posted 18 days ago with 38 member flags
Multiple Human Species Were Likely The Norm
  Posted 11 days ago with 37 member flags
The Sumerian \'Flood-Storm\' weapon.
  Posted 6 days ago with 18 member flags