The Irish Pub down the road from me is a great place not only to kick back with a cold beverage but to talk to folks from Ireland. One of the
discussions recently centered on Newgrange, part of the Bru na Boinne complex in Meath county Ireland.
The Bru na Boinne Complex is composed of Newgrange , Knowth and Dowth in Ireland, built nearly 6000 years ago... Keep in mind, this is pre-Celt,
Pre-Egyptian Pyramids and Pre-Stonehenge.
Below is a nice video of Newgrange with some odd Christian music put to it...
A closeup of the walls...
The entrance to the site and example of the megalithic artwork...
Did you know that within 50 miles of Dublin the passage tombs of the Bru na Boinne Complex (built between 3300 and 2900 B.C.) are 500 years older than
the Great Pyramid of Giza and about 1,000 years older than Stonehenge?
Newgrange is a burial mound, 250 feet across and 40 feet high. It covers one acre. Inside the mound a 60 foot long passage leads to a cross-shaped
chamber featuring a corbelled roof (a roof of progressively overlapping stones topped with a capstone) rising to 20 feet. After 5,000 years the roof
has remained intact and waterproof.
Whoa... wait a minute... cross shaped chamber? 6000 years ago? Ok, maybe that is a coincidence. Let's continue...
Newgrange, like many ruins of ancient civilizations, is aligned with a particular equinox. In this case on the winter solstice, or shortest day of the
year, a narrow beam of sunshine shines directly onto the passage into the chamber and illuminates the floor of the chamber, lasting for about 17
minutes. Every year tens of thousands enter a drawing to be one of the 50 or so allowed inside to witness the event.
One of the very interesting parts, is the Sundial petroglyph from Knowth, in the same area. And just so we don't lose context, Knowth is in the same
complex, but here is an arial picture of it... it is a *bit* different than Newgrange...
So here is the Sundial from Knowth...
Now it's hard to see much from this angle, so here is one with an overlay.
Notice the swirl in this one as we see in all the other artwork. Before this image everything seemed curly cued as decoration. But this particular
image puts it as part of a layout. What *does* this spiral represent in this situation or is it merely more decoration which represents something
Now, let's put just a little more detail on this...
As you can see several things pop out. Namely that was was important in this dial is the Winter Solstice. A dotted line is drawn to the Summer
Solstice as a point of reference, but the line pointing to the Winter Solstice is actually on the petroglyph itself.
A great site which ponders the linkage between the Ancient art, sundials, and modern
day crop circle artists.
Rather large article about the sundial from Knowth, other sundials and how they correlate to modern day crop circle artists.
This site posits a link between the petroglyphs in Ireland and those of Native Americans
Knowth.com has some nice images as well. Please check them out.
Just to throw more into the mix... here is one of the photos of the Avebury crop circle. Notice how it lines up with the sundial picture above.
Although looking at it, either the pic above is off or the overlay in the crop circle pic is off, because their orientation is different.
What a damn good post! I didn't know anything about the place and always enjoy something new. I must read up on it all...
Places similar to this are spread across Northern Europe...passage graves, megaliths, burial mounds etc. Northern Italy and westwards across
Scandinavia, Germany, Northern France (Brittany) and into the British Isles. Hundreds of sites and relatively little information about the people that
left them behind. They often feature alignments to the winter sunrise and are thought to represent the transition from hunter gatherers to farmers.
The organization needed to commission and construct these sites indicates rising populations and the formation of societies with shared mythologies.
Gavrinis Island is over 400 miles South and shares some of the same symbols as Boyne Valley. Crossing
over to the east and we see even more similarities. Although largely lost in the distant past, there must have been trade routes spanning 1000s of
miles. IIRC in Wiltshire a hand axe was found dating to 5500 ya that was made of Austrian stone. Migration and trade must have been fairly dynamic
before we began to settle down and claimed ever larger areas of territory.
I've drank and been drunk in many an Irish bar, but I can't recall having a chat about about Upper Paleolithic archaeology. Top man!
Evidently many of the trade routes were used for trading salt, among other items. But Salt was like white gold, probably because of it's function in
preservation of meats and medicinal uses along with it's obvious value as a spice.
It was kinda funny, I mentioned the megalithic era, and the bartender went on about Newgrange... It sparked my interest and so I thought I'd share
the fruits of this intoxicated discussion with the rest of you.
When we went to Ireland we decided to let our noses be our tour guides. We wandered aimlessly around the countryside and just stumbled onto
Newgrange. It was the highlight of our trip. Beautiful and awe inspiring. Makes you humble to realize how long it has stood there.
Furthermore there is a book that I read years a go that theorizes that Neolithic peoples from Ireland were the sea fearing peoples that The Egyptians
spoke of that founded the Egyptian society.
This is predicated upon the research of two Freemasons (Knight and Lomas) trying to uncover the origins of the Craft.
They go into many other areas as it pretains to Venus warship and Neolithic peoples in Ireland and Britain and the level of advancement in their
civilization beyond and prior to the Egyptian Civilization.
I'm incredibly interested as to what effect the light plays on the white quartz which lines the face of Newgrange.
Quartz is known for it's ability to tune frequencies and transfer vibrations. I know for a fact that we are indebted to quartz as far as radio is
concerned. It wouldn't have been possible without quartz stones.
Great post, thanks for bringing some insight to the previously obscure New Grange sites to me! Will defintley have to find the time to do some
research on this, ecspecially the the arial shot of the site featuring the multiple mounds and sqaures and what not shown in the image, fascinating
I prefer to think think of the swirls as you call them as spirals, these same symbols seem to crop up in many cultures all over the world that were
previosly thought isolated to one another. The Maori of New Zealand being one such example that uses the spiral symbol in its history/culture
Great post, hunkahunka! S&F from me. Very interesting about the cross shaped chamber. Oh, I wish I could remember the title of a book I read about 16
years ago. It was about Norse gods. The reason they were such sad creatures was because they knew their time on Earth would end, and a new man and
woman would be born who would disgard them and would become followers of a different god, one who was superior to the Norse gods, and from who would
come a saviour of all humankind. Maybe this was just some sort of Christian propaganda, I don't know. I have never found anything else about this
Oh, yeah. Continue to go get a bit intoxicated at the pub. Pass on this drunken knowledge to us more often. jk
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