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A Canticle for Leibowitz
A Canticle for Leibowitz is a post-apocalyptic science fiction novel by American Walter M. Miller, Jr., first published in 1960. Based on three short stories Miller contributed to the science fiction magazine The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction; it is the only novel published by the author during his lifetime. Considered one of the classics of science fiction, it has never been out of print and has seen over 25 reprints and editions. Appealing to mainstream and genre critics and readers alike, it won the 1961 Hugo Award for best science fiction novel.
Set in a Roman Catholic monastery in the desert of the Southwestern United States after a devastating nuclear war, the story spans thousands of years as civilization rebuilds itself. The monks of the Albertian Order of Leibowitz take up the mission of preserving the surviving remnants of man's scientific knowledge until the day the outside world is again ready for it.
Source : Wikipedia
I understand that the arguments against OOPARTS are strong, but not necessarily COMPLETELY disqualifying. For instance, I offer the 'Baghdad Battery' and the 'Antikythera Mechanism'; both would be considered out-of-place as far as technology at the time of their estimated use/conception. Yet they exist. And for what purposes? Exactly who used them? Who designed them?
Originally posted by El Davicho
I definately believe in 'cyclical time' and that human progress has not been as linear as we currently believe.
IF there were a civilization that equaled ours in the distant past, there is no tell where it could have been centralized.
For instance, it was recently discovered that the soil in the Amazon is an advanced formula, created by an unknown group of people and it has been theorized that a complex series of canals weave through the Amazon into the Atlantic ocean. I won't bother with links, this is off the head, but they are easily verifiable online.
My point is, lets say there was an advanced civilization centered in South America, Amazon region, 30,000 years ago. Would any evidence of them exist today? Things in the Amazon decay at a rate much faster than other parts of the planet.
What if this civilization where centered in Antarctica? What if an ancient civilization formed, but never spread to a global scale (there are MANY places in the world today that don't 'look' like they exist in a time of advanced technology and civilization...because they aren't a part of this advanced civilization).
It also wouldn't be right to assume that they would have had buildings and technology similar to ours. Who knows what their technology could have been based on? There's no telling what sort of architecture or technology they would have had.
Everything we know today is based on MAYBE 10,000 years worth of scientific discovery. Modern man Has been on this planet (according to accepted theory) TEN TIMES that. If we can progress this far in 10,000 years, what we could have accomplished in the 190,000+ years prior to that is anyones guess.
EDIT: Removed potential inaccuracy
[edit on 16-7-2009 by El Davicho]
Originally posted by ChemBreather
It is cyclic, all ancient civilizations came and went.
Now it is our turn..