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reply posted on 22-7-2009 @ 03:28 PM by Masonic Light
Originally posted by JoshNorton
That being said, I do trust the opinions of those who get appointed to the investigating committee of those candidates to do their due diligence.


That's good, but the investigating committee, as a matter of ethics, must be composed of people who do not know the petitioner. So if they don't know him, and his sponsors don't know him, then nobody can vouch for his character.

Typically, the only thing the investigating committee does is interview the petitioner and run the criminal background check. The weight usually lies upon the shoulders of the two sponsors who signed the petitioners, as they are the ones recommending him to be made a Mason.

Likewise any member is free to blackball during the balloting, and any member may vote against petitions for advancement, so there are lots of places in the process where mistakes can be remedied if someone does slip through.


That's true, but in most cases, nobody else in the Lodge knows him, and must trust the discretion of the two sponsors. If the sponsors don't know him, their trust is misplaced.

My lodge does not do background checks (in the legal and/or private investigator sense) on all candidates, and that has hurt us in the past... we had one guy who had a felony lie on his petition and we didn't find out for a couple of years. We booted him out with the full support of the Grand Lodge.


This will continue to happen in Freemasonry indefinitely until our Lodges begin taking the strict qualifications for membership seriously again. Hopefully by then it won't be too late. If Freemasonry is destroyed, it will not be by the hands of the anti-Masons like we see on this forum. It will be by Masons themselves.


reply posted on 23-7-2009 @ 01:05 PM by Hazelnut
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Your secrecy is a blessing to those whom you seek to do good works for? Are you saying what I think you're saying? That keeping your good deeds private and anonymous is a blessing/charity/goodwill for those you deem "less fortunate"?

I can see why its popular to join a brotherhood.


reply posted on 23-7-2009 @ 03:29 PM by aleon1018
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I really don't recall. Is Al Gore a secret Shriner?

Maybe that was just a family name and no connection with the Freemasons? That would explain the high security.


reply posted on 23-7-2009 @ 03:37 PM by getreadyalready
Originally posted by aleon1018
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I really don't recall. Is Al Gore a secret Shriner?

Maybe that was just a family name and no connection with the Freemasons? That would explain the high security.


Not that I am aware, but here where I live, I don't think anybody would be bragging about Al Gore being a member!!!


reply posted on 23-7-2009 @ 03:44 PM by aleon1018
Originally posted by getreadyalready
Originally posted by aleon1018
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I really don't recall. Is Al Gore a secret Shriner?

Maybe that was just a family name and no connection with the Freemasons? That would explain the high security.


Not that I am aware, but here where I live, I don't think anybody would be bragging about Al Gore being a member!!!


Maybe he was just "warming up" to them?

That was before he "came out" with his global warming video also.

I suppose I'm relaying information that's not openly discussed anyway.

It's not as if drinking or gambling is taboo for Freemasons anyway...is it?


reply posted on 23-7-2009 @ 03:59 PM by getreadyalready
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It's not as if drinking or gambling is taboo for Freemasons anyway...is it?


Not taboo, but not allowed on lodge property, even when renting the lodge out for parties or otherwise. It is strictly prohibited in that fashion. Otherwise, most Mason's that I know still drink and party plenty in their own time!!

[edit on 23-7-2009 by getreadyalready]


reply posted on 23-7-2009 @ 04:06 PM by aleon1018
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So, why would the Casino hang some banner that says Welcome Freemasons? You think it really said Shriners? I'm not so sure anymore. But why the high security than?

I guess you would have had to have been there to know. That was at the Blue Chip Casino in Michigan City Indiana about 6 years ago. Maybe someone else knows what it was, other than a delusion.


reply posted on 23-7-2009 @ 04:10 PM by getreadyalready
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On my few trips to Vegas there is always a lot going on. Gore may have been there speaking, or on another matter, security would have been his. I have been to some very large scale Masonic meetings in hotels, and they did not have any security.

Banner may have been for Freemason's, but they would have likely conducted their meetings in a convention center or otherwise. Come to think of it, one of the meetings I attended was in the Hotel's convention center, and they did have a small Hotel bar in one of the other suites.


reply posted on 23-7-2009 @ 04:44 PM by aleon1018
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Well, it is confusing to suggest that they're like some strict religious groups. The banner also seems kinda odd. I don't suppose they were doing this for some business reason either way? Why would the Freemasons need to advertise in a casino? Maybe they have part ownership. IDK

I guess the only thing would be to ask those in the area that would actually know. Otherwise it's just speculation. It's not like I'm going to call the nearest lodge or whatever and ask either. Thanks anyway.


reply posted on 23-7-2009 @ 07:23 PM by Rockpuck
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I moved to Oregon, but I have no idea if we can drink on the property lol.. I know people renting the buildings can (couldn't even do that in Ohio) but as for members.. no idea

I don't see whats so bad about having a beer with your dinner.

Then again.. I am both Irish and Catholic, and the Puritans look down on that.
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