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But on to this thread...., and the topic at hand. So this guy saw nothing, just drove around the desert in a jeep? Uhh, why is this even post worthy. Lets hear/see you secret deathbead confession. Kinda dissapointed with this one.
These and similar accounts of the incident have largely been dismissed by all except the most dedicated believers.
"A Time/Yankelovich poll showed that 65 percent of people think a UFO crashed at Roswell" (Levine 56). A Newsweek poll, about the Roswell incident, states that 48 percent of Americans think "there is a government plot to cover the whole thing up" (Stover 87).
Originally posted by morgan04
Originally posted by MOTT the HOOPLE
I think after all this time has passed Roswell is starting to become a little boring, So I don't think we will ever really learn what happened on that day.
I certainly empathize with how you feel about this- I think a lot of folks are suffering from "Roswell overload".
However, I think this is quite sad. There isn't anything mundane or boring about an incident that, very likely, involves a crashed craft containing intelligent beings from another planet or dimension. I don't care how much it is talked about or covered- It is the most important story in human history.
P.S. That being said, let's not let Roswell overshadow all of the other evidence and well documented incidents that point to alien visitation to our planet.
But last week came an astonishing new twist to the Roswell mystery.
Lt. Walter Haut was the public-relations officer at the base in 1947 and was the man who issued the original and subsequent press releases after the crash on the orders of the base commander, Col. William Blanchard.
Haut died in December 2005, but left a sworn affidavit to be opened only after his death.
Last week, the text was released. It asserts that the weather-balloon claim was a cover story and that the real object had been recovered by the military and stored in a hangar.
He described seeing not just the craft, but alien bodies.
He wasn't the first Roswell witness to talk about alien bodies.
Local undertaker Glenn Dennis had long claimed that he was contacted by authorities at Roswell shortly after the crash and asked to provide a number of child-sized coffins.
When he arrived at the base, he was apparently told by a nurse (who later disappeared) that a UFO had crashed and that small humanoid extraterrestrials had been recovered.
But Haut is the only one of the original participants to claim to have seen alien bodies.
UFO pieces handed around
Haut's affidavit talks about a high-level meeting he attended with base commander Col. William Blanchard and the Commander of the Eighth Army Air Force, Gen. Roger Ramey.
Haut states that at this meeting, pieces of wreckage were handed around for participants to touch, with nobody able to identify the material.
He says the press release was issued because locals were already aware of the crash site, but in fact there had been a second crash site, where more debris from the craft had fallen.
The plan was that an announcement acknowledging the first site, which had been discovered by a farmer, would divert attention from the second and more important location.
The clean-up operation
Haut also spoke about a clean-up operation, where for months afterward military personnel scoured both crash sites searching for all remaining pieces of debris, removing them and erasing all signs that anything unusual had occurred.
This ties in with claims made by locals that debris collected as souvenirs was seized by the military.
Haut then tells how Colonel Blanchard took him to "Building 84" — one of the hangars at Roswell — and showed him the craft itself.
He describes a metallic egg-shaped object around 12-15 feet in length and around 6 feet wide.
He said he saw no windows, wings, tail, landing gear or any other feature.
Haut "saw the alien bodies"
He saw two bodies on the floor, partially covered by a tarpaulin.
They are described in his statement as about 4 feet tall, with disproportionately large heads.
Towards the end of the affidavit, Haut concludes: "I am convinced that what I personally observed was some kind of craft and its crew from outer space."
What's particularly interesting about Walter Haut is that in the many interviews he gave before his death, he played down his role and made no such claims.
Had he been seeking publicity, he would surely have spoken about the craft and the bodies.
Did he fear ridicule, or was the affidavit a sort of deathbed confession from someone who had been part of a cover-up, but who had stayed loyal to the end?
The U.S. government came under huge pressure on Roswell in the '90s.
In July 1994, in response to an inquiry from the General Accounting Office, the office of the secretary of the Air Force published a report, "The Roswell Report: Fact Versus Fiction in the New Mexico Desert."
Weather balloon "cover story"
The report concluded that the Roswell incident had been attributable to something called Project Mogul, a top-secret project using high-altitude balloons to carry sensor equipment into the upper atmosphere, listening for evidence of Soviet nuclear tests.
The statements concerning a crashed weather balloon had been a cover story, they admitted, but not to hide the truth about extraterrestrials.
A second U.S. Air Force report concluded that the claims bodies were recovered were generated by people who had seen crash-test dummies dropped from the balloons.
Skeptics, of course, will dismiss the testimony left by Haut.
After all, fascinating though it is, it's just a story. There's no proof.
But if nothing else, this latest revelation shows that, 60 years on, this mystery endures.
‘there is strength in numbers’ and ‘the right to self-defense is never denied’
Originally posted by MAC269
Now Mike lets here your line on this one www.foxnews.com...
I know there are jokers out there but they rarely do it from the grave.
Why in Gods name would someone put this in an affidavit only to be opened after his death if it where not true.
Now I know you know the man and the man says it’s not so. With that I think you must come to one of two conclusions (1) The man doesn’t know. Or (2) he knows and he is not saying.
Sorry but it would seam that there are two realities and one of them is where NASA is nothing more than a PR, front. The reason is the secret is so devastating for most of us that it can never be told.
Originally posted by MAC269
reply to post by mmiichael
Mike my dear fellow you have never offended me will not that I know of anyway.
Lovely to hear from you again.
This story certainly goes along with my theory but anyway it is the first I have heard of it so if you have anything else on Haut please do let me have it.
Anyway not matter what the circumstances I am sticking with them guys not possibly being able to misidentify basal wood and tin foil. Come on Mike a 5 year old would not do that.
Originally posted by Pathos
So. Uh... Ummm.... Where is the proof of aliens?
Originally posted by MAC269
Many things in the past that we have thought of as myths have subsequently been proved to be true.
The billions of miles for centuries just too crash bit is only relating to what we know not what they know. It may be easier than flying to New York for them and less dangerous.