What I learned from camping in the wilderness for five days...., page 1
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Topic started on 15-7-2009 @ 06:39 PM by Cariaddi
What my trip comprised of:
I kayaked every day to get to a new campsite, portaged twice, went up and down a FAST river, and tried to hike a mountain. The weather was good, very few bugs, but I had to endure a few hours of kayaking in the rain (that was fun!! seriously ^.^), and kayaking against a really strong afternoon wind (a real pain).
My trip took place in a provincial park- there is a ranger (really a maintenance guy) who checks all the campsites and keeps tabs on the people who are out in the lakes. And because it was a provincial park, no hunting allowed. The fishing was great, though!

THIS WAS NOT A SURVIVAL TRIP!! Well, it was surviving on whatever I could jam into my kayak, but I did pack a tent, sufficient food, a stove, clothing, proper footwear, etc. But for the most part being out in the (semi) wilderness was a good trial run for the most basic survival skills.


This is what I learned. Some of it the hard way, other I though of beforehand (and after >.<):

Water:
Water Pump: The best method of long-term, ease-of-use purification of your water at camp is physical - ie a pump. I have a Katadyn carbon-and-ceramic water pump. Just chuck the end in, pump into a bottle, and you're set. Because I (and my family) go camping and kayaking a lot, and in not-too-nice water, this is the easiest way to get clean water asap.

Purifying Tablets (or other a method of killing micro-organisms): Unfortunately, my pump didn't work the first day - all the water spurted out the side of the container, and none went through the ceramic filter and into my bottle. This was because of a broken seal which I quickly fixed. BUT, if I couldn't fix it, another method of getting water is to detach the intake hose, and suction water from that. At the bottom of my pump's intake hose is a very fine mesh that cleans out visible particulates (chunks of wood, little red bug/shrimp-like things, dirt, etc). Then you boil the water over a fire or stove or UV it via the sun, or something to kill micro-organisms. Like a water tablet... I shall be bringing some along next time!

Drinking Water Straight: If you can drink straight from your water source, as I did once I was on the higher lake, wade out into the lake to about knee-depth, place your bottle (with cap ON) underwater, and then take the lid off, while walking parallel to shore. This way there is little wave action to disturb debris, no surface debris, and that the suction of the water into the bottle does not disturb surface or bottom grits - walking while filling the bottle saves you of this problem.


Stove, and Fuel:
Alcohol Stove: In five days, my companion and I only used 1 liter of alcohol fuel. My alcohol stove is small (about 8" round by 5" thick), makes no smoke, smell, or noise (specially adapted), and brings water to a boil very rapidly.

Methyl Alcohol: The fuel is a bugger to find, but can be used as an antiseptic, worst-case-secnario. I am not recommending this - just saying it's possible ^.^ And don't drink it - Methyl Alcohol is extremely toxic.


Fire
Damp wood: Because of a rainstorm on the first day, all the wood at the first campsite was WET. I wasted a whole box of matches, 1/2 a candle, and a bunch of precious toilet paper trying to get the fire going. I tried scraping magnesium and lighting it with flint, but that took too long as was very finicky (you need a proper striker as well as a locking-bladed knife... neither of which I had. See below.)

Fire Tipi: This is honestly the best method to start a fire. It takes time in the beginning to build, but will pay off in the end. I noticed that flat logs or sticks rarely burned - upright, angled logs and sticks burnt faster and stronger. Also, cedar is a great starter (after the cotton balls). Note that cedar only occurs in wet areas, or near a large body of water.


Cont'd below....


reply posted on 15-7-2009 @ 06:40 PM by Cariaddi
To make an effective tipi:
1) Place two logs parallel, but with space between them.
2) Place some bark (preferably birch) in a pile, on top of the space between these two logs. If you cannot find bark, then improvise to make a flat platform.
3) Pile DRY cedar leaves on top of the bark. (Again, improvise. High-oil trees like pine leaves and birch bark work well if cedar is unavailable.)
4) Place one cotton ball on top of this, in the middle of your bark and cedar pile.
5) Place some cedar or pine twigs in a tipi on top of your cotton ball, leaving an opening at the front for you to light the cotton on fire.
6) Build up the tipi with larger and larger twigs and sticks, until you have one about as wide as your two logs on which the whole thing is balanced. Then place two or three logs cross-wise as larger additions, outside the two bottom logs. As long as you leave a hole to the center cotton ball, at the front, you don't have to worry too much about allowing space for air, so pile on as much fuel as you want.
7) Light this on fire by taking a second cotton ball, poking it on the end of a stick (like a marshmallow), and lighting it on fire with your matches or lighter or magnifying glass, whatever. Use the stick to move the now-flaming cotton ball into contact with the other, at the center of the tipi. Leave it there. Your whole tipi should flame up in a minute or two, and your larger logs will catch almost immediately.

Cedar or pine wood, branches, and leaves: These three trees have amazing fire-starting and restorative powers. Chuck some on an ailing fire and *poof* away you go with an incredible burst of flames and heat. Short, but it lasts long enough so the fire will catch larger kindling.

Birch Bark - Base your fire tipi on this and you will have a roaring blaze.

Matches - These get damp very easy, and several may be needed in lighting a fire (unless you use cotton balls or some other REALY dry and good starter-fuel).

Lighter - A lighter will last longer and be of more use than a box of matches if only because it has a more constant flame, and what's use can be extended as long a necessary (you use a match, it's done. A lighter can be used MANY times, and for a little or as long as you need).

Cotton Balls - The BEST fuel to start a fire with because they burn with an obvious flame, are dry, and burn for a while. Be sure to keep them dry.

Old Mans Beard - Although this makes a tempting fire-starter, I do not think it is worth it. Unless completely dry, Old Mans Beard smokes and steams, and does not burn. And when it is dry, the amount of fuel provided is insignificant, because it burns swiftly and with little heat, thus wasting your matches and not catching well.


Food:
You do not eat as much as you think you do: When exercising, you do not eat nearly as much as you think you might - you do not feel hungry. But still MAKE SURE YOU EAT! Don't eat a lot; just eat some. If you do not eat, your stomach will refuse food later, and you'll vomit (I unfortunately found this out the hard way. So make sure you eat, PLEASE!) Another thing I noticed was that my stomach was smaller and my tastes had changed. See "Snacks" below.

What to take: On account of my allergies (predominantly to chemicals), I do not eat ready-mix meals. Like the ones where you just open the bag and pour in some hot water, let sit, and eat. Although these weigh less, I think the value and nutritional content of taking *real* food is well worth the extra weight. And in my case, there's not much I can do about it. Anyhow, here is what I took, food-wise:

Breakfast: Porridge with nuts and seeds and dried fruit is great. A small bowl seemed good.


Cont'd Below...


reply posted on 15-7-2009 @ 06:41 PM by Cariaddi
Lunch: In the middle of your day, doing what ever (in my case, kayaking), a small but substantial lunch feels good. Three cracker-packs (sometimes two), and a bit of protein. I had cheese; I will take some nut butter next time. You will not want to eat a lot, but what you do eat should fill you up. (I like Susies Organic Chili and Garlic crackers, because the whole package is wrapped in cardboard, and the crackers individually packaged, so you can grab some and go).

Dinner: Quinoa takes about 15 minutes too cook. Add a tin of salmon and you're ready to go. This tastes good, does not feel like too much food, and is easy to eat.

Snacks and what not to bring: The best snack I found was to be granola bars (homemade). They have sugar but are not too sugary, and are chewy and good to just eat. I found candied ginger and chocolate were not good to take, because after the sugar surge I felt listless. Too much sugar is a bad thing :O


Random other but equally important stuff

"Edible" wild foods: DO NOT EAT SOMETHING UNLESS YOU ARE 100% POSITIVE it is what you think it is. For instance... What does not smell like onion but LOOK like onion can be an EXTREMLY poisonous, toxic plant - Death Camass. This is something that happened to me (Not that I ate the onion and was poisoned) I thought, hey, aren't those are wild onions.... wait... were's the onion smell? And at camp that night I checked my book!!

Thermometer and compass: self explanatory. Both of which I forgot to bring.

Flashlight: Smart when trying to find the outhouse and there is no moon or stars to light your way. And also to see if that is a bear, or just a very large stump....

Candle: When the sun goes down early and you want some light around your campsite, a candle on the picnic table works great. Also serves as a fire-starter.

Mini BOB: A mini (waterproofed) bug-out bag, on TOP of (or easily grabbed) in your boat (but tied down) is a great idea in case you lose your boat. Note - IF YOU BOAT FLIPS, DO NOT LEAVE IT! It has flotation chambers that should keep it up, even upside down. But in the WORST CASE SCENARIO, if you LOSE YOU BOAT , a back-up bag will be much appreciated. If you make it to shore... Hey- stuff a life raft in yours if you want
In mine I had my emergency bivy bag, matches, a candle, sewing kit, flashlight, swiss army knife, super-absorbent towel, 2 plant ID and edibility books, some bags, a few menstrual pads (bandage-wise), wrist brace, tensor bandage, sling, kerchief, about 30 feet of thin wire, dental floss, and a metal water bottle (empty). My theory being that if the kayak sinks, and I grab the bag, the empty water bottle will keep the bag floating. Secondly, once I got to shore and started a fire, I could boil water inside the metal bottle suspended on wire over the fire. Then I just had to wait for it to cool, and pop the cap on and walk along the shore for help, or what ever.

Use your space wisely: Don't bring ceramic containers. Actually, don't bring containers of any type, at all. Use plastic bags. And do not bring a "beach" towel - bring a super-absorbent small one.

Don't push yourself: Move in the morning when the sun is not as hot and the wind not as strong. Pull ashore when the wind blows (really strong), stay in the shade for the afternoon, and if you have to continue on in the evening. Otherwise I'd recommend trying to get to your campsite before the heat and afternoon wind. If you are doing something that is too strenuous, like climbing a vertical mountain slope, do the smart thing and STOP. If you get hurt, you're on your own. You can't dial 911.

Locking knife-blade: If you are using magnesium and flint to light a fire, be sure to have a locking knife-blade, without any covering. And in general, I find a locking knife is safer than my folding (and semi-locking) swiss army knife. Sure, it's great to cut cheese with, but once you start trying to gut something, the design becomes unwieldy.


Cont'd below.

[edit on 15-7-2009 by Cariaddi]



reply posted on 15-7-2009 @ 06:41 PM by Cariaddi
Swiss-Army knife: This little guy has been invaluable. Although the knife itself does not stand up to heavy-duty use (such as gutting, etc), it is great for around-camp stuff, like making cards out of note-paper because you forgot to BRING a pack of cards, or lighting a fire with the attached magnifying glass, or clipping a hang-nail, etc. My knife has a pair of tweezers, which is great, as well as a punch-and-needle contraption (Used for sails. And poking large holes in stuff). Great little tool.

Sewing kit: Self explanatory.

Cards: Great way to pass time

Tea Tree Oil - The best all-around vial of medicine to carry. It is anti-bacterial and anti-fungal, but most importantly, it keeps away bugs! Can also be used to clean sap or dirt from your fingers EXTREMELY well. When rubbed into the skin it can be used as a joint-pain reducer... or so a friend of mine swears.

Kerchiefs - As much as I don't want to say this, I got sick the third night out. Not a stomach flu, fortunately, but my balance went weird and I had an orchestra of crickets in my ears. My nose wouldn't stop running, and I was sneezing and coughing all day (and night) long. Because there was a limited supply of toilet paper (and no kleenex), I had to use something else.... a kerchief. It worked very well as kleenex, didn't clutter up camp, or make a giant pile of waste I would have had to pack out.

Emergency Bivy Bag (one of those space-age shiny thingies) - Aside from the obvious reason of "just in case", I was really glad to have this on my trip. You see, on the third day, me and my companion tried to climb the mountain above the campsite, but we turned around because the trail went straight up and the temperatures were in the near thirties... at EIGHT in the MORNING. Anyhow, my companion has poor knees, so going up at such an angle was really not such a good idea for him. But if we has pushed on, and something had happened to his knee, I would have to go down the mountain and wait for the ranger to come by the next day, or flag down a power boat (not a very good idea in a kayak). So, hypothetically speaking, it would have been 24 hours before I could get help, and the nights are COLD where I was, especially higher up mountain. Having the emergency bivy bag would have kept my companion warm until help arrived. (And it also changed his mind about me carrying around one, amongst other prep stuff, in my purse for "daily life")


There is a bunch more stuff I could go on about, but I've covered the most important stuff that I found useful (or not!). If you have any questions, just ask! I hope I can answer them ^.^


reply posted on 16-7-2009 @ 08:42 AM by ItsallCrazy
reply to post by Cariaddi



Really good thread man, hearing some of the things you've been doing really took me back to childhood days! I was always an outdoor kinda kid.. odd considerin my freakishly soft skin.. anyway you've spurred me on to get some of these things stashed away in a rucksack just incase.

Excellent idea for a thread, unlucky forgetting a few items (specially the cards!) but man.. every single person should have these things stocked at home and you can guarantee a lot of people won't have any of them.

I'm gonna hit the camping stores at the weekend!



reply posted on 16-7-2009 @ 09:17 AM by mapper
reply to post by Cariaddi



Rather then using toilet paper to get the fire going, try find some shale rock that breaks easily (so you dont dull your nice if you dont have too) Then scrape bark shavings off a tree. Most standing trees will always be dry but if not you can always get the the dry surface area of the bark.

If your around a water area with cattails grab them and open them up. The cotton type stuff in there go up fast.


reply posted on 16-7-2009 @ 11:54 AM by Donkey_Dean
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5 days? That’s a little goobafied, when I was a kid we would camp for weeks sometimes months even into winter. In kindergarten they started talking about teepees and such. I stated that I had lived in a teepee and was sent to the principle for lying. My father had to be contacted to confirm I was not lying.

I was a kid mind you, but I am pretty sure we survived off of marijuana which was sold or traded for necessities. We had a smoke house which was used for meat curing. Squirrel was the mainstay. We had goats and many chickens as well. There was always a garden and such. I guess if times got hard we could have eaten the dogs, but I never would have.

You could make it 5 days with only drink. Shoot man it would be one hell of a diet!

Some of my best memories come from this time. Making blackberry preserves with my mother, all the great times with my now deceased dad. The world seemed like a very magical place, and I saw god in everything. Ignorance was bliss!



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