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1 in 8 Americans Hungry/Starving?

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posted on Jul, 15 2009 @ 05:29 PM
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I believe this needs some attention, during these times, maybe you don't.

I've recently heard over the radio numerous times that One in Eight Americans are hungry/starving. I was recently vacationing in Wisconsin, and while leaving I heard it over the radio. Then when I was entering back into Illinois, I heard another version of this broadcast. I think I've seen a recent commercial linked to this broadcast.

Now, with the Economic status where it is now, a lot of stories are emerging. I was thinking that odds are, that One in Eight Americans, there should be a good ammount of ATSers who can back these stories up. So please, if you are hungry/starving every day respond to this thread.

This is where we start gathering support, the internet is where we build up attention, sure as hell isn't the national media.

By the way, the broadcast, is a program that is trying to collect donations to help these One of Eight. Also, not all of the One in Eight are jobless/homeless.

Anyone else hear the broadcast?


Some Web Links:
www.nowpublic.com...

ac360.blogs.cnn.com...




posted on Jul, 15 2009 @ 05:37 PM
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Found a youtube clip about this, probably was the commercial I was talking about.

www.youtube.com...



posted on Jul, 15 2009 @ 05:39 PM
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I've heard the statistic on a commercial. I think it is absolutely nonsense.
We have welfare, food stamps, food banks. We even have free school breakfasts and lunches -- where I live these are offered all year round and advertised in front of the schools. If you believe this, you also believe the deal where the folks who are at least 100lbs over weight are also indicating on TV that they, too are hungry.

I have no doubt that there are folks out there who need additional food. 1 in 8 would roughly be some 24,000,000 Americans and that is nonsense. Further, I would suggest that many of these folks have mental problems making it difficult for them to take advantage of the services available to them. Not to diminish the pain these folks are in, but the issue is not food availability, but rather their inability, albiet for whatever reason to secure food.

More liberal pap, IMO



posted on Jul, 15 2009 @ 05:43 PM
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yeah thats right. A lot of americans are learning to get by on less than 5 dollars a ay for food. People with good college degrees. people who were making 60K a year.

The economy is MUCH worse than people generally assume. part of it is that americans are judged too easily by each other (it's our culture now) on the various status symbols we have in our lives (cars, clothes, flat screen TV's etc...) we do not want others to really know just how bad our financial situations are. sometimes not even our best friends. So I think the situation is much worse than what polls reflect. I'd say 1 of 5 or 6 people in Los Angeles are unemployed or underemployed. More people are collecting from EDD than will admit. many people have expended all their EDD funds and still haven't been able to find a job than will admit.

I have no doubt that on average 1-5 people are eating 1000 calories or less a day. thats starving if your intent is not to be loosing weight.



posted on Jul, 15 2009 @ 05:48 PM
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A friend of mine, who is German, and somewhat anti-American, told me last year that he'd read a new article saying that 30,000,000 people in America were starving and that this was proof of how evil America is and how socialism is much better than the American way of life.

I looked into the statistic and, as it turns out, the 30,000,000 Americans that were "starving" had to change their eating habits in the last year. They weren't starving at all...they just didn't get to eat as much meat as they wanted. Meat = satisfied and well. More fruits and vegetables = help me I'm starving! Give me a cheeseburger!

If one in eight Americans are truly starving, I suggest that they walk around malls and parking lots and gather change and go buy some food off the dollar menu.

Though, I would suspect that this statistic is going to turn out to be the same thing as what was stated last year.



posted on Jul, 15 2009 @ 05:49 PM
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Current US Population as of July 2008 = 304,059,724


Source = www.google.com...

1 in 8 of 304,059,724 = 38,007,465.5



38,007,465.5 / 50 state = 760,149 per state



Hope these numbers are correct. I think that the estimate of 1 in 8 might be a little high, especially because they are trying to collect donations. But check this out, it is about the LA food bank: www.lafoodbank.org... which is using the same numbers for their organization. Might be true, or they all got together and said 1 in 8 sounds right...

My final opinion would be, in a world, where you can by 100 different types cereal in the store, no one should starve.



posted on Jul, 15 2009 @ 05:50 PM
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First you have to know what the definition of "starving" is, according to the U.S. government.

To be considered "starving", you have to miss one meal a month, out of 3 meals a day. I usually don't eat lunch, so in the governments eye's I should be withering waste of a person.

It's just a way to fudge the numbers... like the percentage of unemployment, did you know this percentage includes...

seasonal workers who are off season

those who don't collect a traditional paycheck (freelancers, self employed...)

Those who can't work (disabled)

Those who can but won't

And youths of working age that aren't working. In my state the working age is 15, so every high schooler between the ages of 15 and 18 that don't work are considered part of the unemployment percentage.

I could go on, but you can see what I mean...



posted on Jul, 15 2009 @ 05:52 PM
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I see where your coming from. I used to think like that too. But what if some people are too proud to accept help from organizations, and make their families suffer.

Also, just to put this out there, some say that poor people are more likely to be fatter than the rich, because they cannot afford healthier foods. But hell, this is a two sided battle for another day. Thanks for your opinion.

BASSPLYR, Thanks for sharing your story/idea about L.A. Ya, I can't really see a good future if the economy remains as it is, or gets worse. People with college degrees, and good jobs are suffering in some way.

For the past couple of days I've probably made around 1500 calories a day, but I was on vacation, and was having to much fun to eat.



posted on Jul, 15 2009 @ 05:59 PM
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octomom,

in regards to picking up change and hitting up the dollar menu. you do realize that is exactly what is going on.

Go to the local recycling center. the dirty ones in the back of some decreped parking lot with flys buzzing around and they give you cash on the spot. Notice how packed they are. much more than they have ever been. and the people who run these recycling centers will tell you the same. notice how when there just used to be relatively homeless people there now there are guys in ties dragging whatever they can to get recycled. walking off happily after they get 7 bucks from all the trash the brought to the center.

You do know that mc donalads and the other fast food chains are having the highest profits in their history just this year because everybody has been living (literally) off their dollar menus.

Have you noticed when you go to the local supermarkets like ralphs and every thing is almost half off because they simply can't move it.

Ask the restaurant owners how they're doing. I bet they'll tell you a LOT of their clientele have simply disappeared due to economic struggles and are at home eating top ramen instead.

People are starving out there. they just won't admit to it. but the numbers tacitly show a VERY different story.



posted on Jul, 15 2009 @ 05:59 PM
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I'm not sure what to make of this really. I mean, yes there are hungry people. Most Americans are overweight though, and may have to cut back on things with the current economic conditions. Should they be hungry? Sure.

Personally, I only know poor people and most of them (myself excluded) are on welfare. We also have soup kitchens and food drives almost everywhere. If you know a family that's having trouble keeping food on the table, and you can afford to help, you should. But I don't really get the hype.

That commercial you linked to on YouTube... I don't see what that's supposed to be portraying... they all look pretty well-fed to me. Perhaps they're just going without brunch?

(Edited to add: I eat only one actual meal a day and my BMI is about 18.5, everyone I know tells me to eat more. My kids are chubby though, and always seem to be "starving" lol.)

[edit on 7/15/2009 by eMachine]



posted on Jul, 15 2009 @ 06:00 PM
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Thanks for that. I did not know how they calculated the number. I've not eaten breakfast for close on 35 years, so I guess I fit the bill as well. You would not know that from looking at my profile.

Again, these are nonsense statistics. Personally, when I drive by the local school and see the sign "Free Lunches All Summer" I get outraged. My view is that absent severe circumstances, if you can not feed your children three meals a day, long term, those children should be taken away from you. Everybody can get into a jam, but to consistently not be able to feed your children is in and of itself, child abuse.

These statistics are similar to the "poverty" statistics. They calculate poverty based on cash income. OK. Add in the food stamps, housing subsidies, free insurance (medicade), free school lunches and breakfasts, subsidized telephone and cable TV, free mass transit passes and go on. The fact is that folks in "Poverty" in the US are rich in the grand scheme of things, globally.



posted on Jul, 15 2009 @ 06:25 PM
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I dont know where they got that number from?
every Fall the USDA issues a "Household Food Security in the United States" that last one was for, 2007.

In that report they say

Eighty-nine percent of American households were food secure throughout the entire year in 2007, meaning that they had access at all times to enough food for an active, healthy life for all household members. The remaining households (11.1 percent) were food insecure at least some time during the year. About one-third of food insecure households (4.1 percent of all U.S. households) had very low food security—meaning that the food intake of one or more adults was reduced and their eating patterns were disrupted at times during the year because the household lacked money and other resources for food. Prevalence rates of food insecurity and very low food security were essentially unchanged from those in 2005 and 2006.

Food insecurity is limited or uncertain availability of nutritionally adequate and safe foods or limited or uncertain ability to acquire acceptable foods in socially acceptable ways.

USDA website



posted on Jul, 15 2009 @ 06:37 PM
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My comment was to show that in America, it's possible to live by not starving. There is cheap food to be had. I still believe that it's complete bunk that 38,000,000 people are starving in America right now. Especially when the government counts someone as hungry if they miss one meal a month.



posted on Jul, 15 2009 @ 06:38 PM
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The statistic they do NOT want Americans to recognize is (based on my own personal guesstimate) the 7 out of 8 Americans who are malnourished thanks to all the over processed, nutrient poor fast food, preservative filled junk food, and nutrient deprived GMO food we all consume in this country. The nation is filled with people who have full stomachs and fat asses (myself included), but are utterly deprived of vital nutrients their body needs to function properly. It is the number one thing that has lead us down the path of astronomical health bills, epidemic obesity, and a sluggish, disinterested, exhausted population. You remove the nutrients from food, replace them with addictive chemicals, and suddenly you have an entire society who purchases and consumes ridiculous amounts of food because their bodies keep telling them they are undernourished and they reach for whatever processed foods they know and love and gorge themselves.

Holy Hell, even in the midst of a massive recession people are getting fatter thanks to places like McDonalds and their dollar menu where a person with a couple bucks on them can slam down a pile of high calorie, low nutrient food... guaranteeing the corporations that person will be hungry again quite soon and be right back in line to shell out a few more dollars for food just as fattening (but probably less nutritive) as a stick of good old fashioned butter.

That's the stat they hide from us. Telling people "Oh God, there's starving people in America!" works in favor of government and corporate agendas because it actually helps part the average American from their hard earned money. It gives government an excuse to take from working people more taxes under the guise of starving people needing welfare. It helps corporations because they can run campaigns where they tout "$.10 from the purchase of every Big Mac will go towards fighting hunger in America's slums." and people buy more addictive crap masquerading as food because they feel like they're helping the needy. But, if people opened their eyes, truly opened them, to just how unhealthy and non-nutritive our daily food purchases were, corporate America would suffer massive losses and, in turn, the government officials wouldn't get their kickbacks and donations they weigh prior to any and every governmental decision they vote on.



posted on Jul, 15 2009 @ 06:53 PM
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well i remember growing up we went days with nothing except a bowl of cereal regularly even with 3 working adults.

anyways, missing just one meal can lead to malnutrition even if you aren't starving, i mean i started eating daily at around ten yrs old and as i got older; i got thinner to the point i averaged 62 lbs, all due to lack of breakfast.



posted on Jul, 15 2009 @ 08:31 PM
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I believe this. On a slightly related side note, when I went to Germany a few years ago, to visit a friend, I stayed for about 3 weeks. I ate good everyday 3 meals +. Meats, cheese, butter, bread, it was stuff that you would buy locally or at the super market. But over there most of their food is unprocessed, "REAL" honest to goodness food, I lost 9.5 pounds.



posted on Jul, 15 2009 @ 08:42 PM
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Really?



Dollar menu? No one in America is starving.

[EDIT] Are one in eight unhealthy? Sure.

[edit on 15-7-2009 by Xtinguish]



posted on Jul, 15 2009 @ 08:52 PM
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I have a number of friends who work at a grocery chain and based on that and my own observations we are not seeing people who appear to be starving (in fact many are overweight) but we know that nutritionally they are doing very poorly living and on the cheapest foods with high calories, refined sugar and fats.
The food stamp allocations for the most part do not seem to permit a diet that has enough fresh foods and most people run out before their month is up. We see people buying cheap candy, sodas and packages of pastries and that's all a lot of the time. For those who don't know this there can be problems with eating beans every day as the sole source of protein.
I don't doubt that a certain percentage go for days with nothing at all but I doubt that's common in my area. I think it's mostly nutritional value that is lacking.



posted on Jul, 15 2009 @ 09:04 PM
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Menjo, you have a good point. Their definition of starving is pretty off. Also, your story about when you visited Germany, when I recently went to Europe, I tried McDonalds there, and it didnt "taste" as good (addicting) as it did here.

I'm seeing alot of ATSers say that people aren't starving, it could be just in your area. I'm in Chicago and from what I can see, I can't tell if anyone is starving or not. Remember though guys, even if the person is fat, overweight, it doesn't mean the person isnt starving, the person could have been bigger the day before.


I've also heard, and noticed alot of you mention he fast food dollar menus, and great deals. Its obvious there trying to sell during this economic time. There doing a good job too.

namehere, Thats a great story, I usually don't eat breakfast either, but I make up for it later in the day I guess. Must have been hard for you, I'm sure you've had some advantages though. Did you have alot of energy?






Oh, and a side note, I see what many of you are talking about, 32,000,000 couldn't be starving. Maybe hungry, or the exaggerated definition of starving used by the government.

[edit on 129America/Chicagof2009Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:06:51 -0500America/Chicago 3109America/Chicago by Trams]



posted on Jul, 15 2009 @ 10:13 PM
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It will get worse with HR 2749 via farmwars.info...

I am learning that Obama is going to make us starve more under guise of food safety and protecting the environment.

Also check out this YouTube video about the Delta Smelt causing Californa farms to shut down and 80,000 jobs to be cut.



Instead of Nobama (Bushama) moving the fish to another location where they will be protected the gov decides to shut off water a valuable commodity to humans, plants and animals. This means Obama won't just be killing humans he will be killing animals to protect the little fishies.

I would have no doubt if they killed some of those fish to get them on the danger species list as a excuse to threaten Americans into supporting the New World Order or Al Gore is gonna come and kill you under the guise of protect the environment and endangered animals

So the starvation of America is going to get worse, way worse. Just wait and see what some call the new messiah is gonna do

entertainmentrundown.com...

Some thinks Obama is the new jesus christ, So be careful of this man and those who follow his new anti-jesus cult. Obama is here to lead people away from christ and support the Luciferians of Bohemian grove.



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