reply to post by Geladinhu
Who cares Geladinhu? Only those who believe our federal government, its officers, employees, and representatives should be required to obey the
Constitution. It's been the historical lack of abiding by the Constitution that's now leading the USA into becoming the USSA. Our president, who
refuses to prove his eligibility, now is the prime architect of this transformation into a socialist welfare nanny one party fascist state. And yes,
Bush was also guilty of leading us down this path.
Goldwater, McCain, and Romney were all born outside of the US; Goldwater in AZ Territory, McCain in Panama, and Romney in Mexico. All were challenged
by the Democrats and all proved they were eligible.
Some are arguing apples and oranges as many countries claim jurisdiction over an individual who is born to a citizen of their country, particularly if
they were born in that country. But it has no effect on US law if one of the parents, not both as some say, was born in the US and in the past in the
case of the mother she was of the age of majority.
Currently, disregarding the father's nationality, if a child is born to a woman of any age anywhere who's a US citizen, the child is considered
natural born. That was not always the case, particularly at the time of Obama's birth. A female US citizen had to be of legal age, 21 at the time, if
outside the US or the child was considered to have the father's nationality. In Obama's case, if he was born outside the US this meant he would be a
British citizen as his Kenyan father was a British subject. US law provided for a means to apply for automatic US citizenship in such cases but they
weren't considered natural born citizens.
So the question is, are there any subsequent US laws now covering underage US women outside the US confering retroactive citizenship status? I don't
know the answer but my speculation is there's no such law. Thus Obama wouldn't be eligible. Thus he has a duty to the American people to produce a
long form Hawaiian birth certificate proving he was born in a Hawaiian hospital. Otherwise he should be impeached and removed from office. Hawaii
hasn't the constitutional right to say those born outside Hawaii were in fact born in Hawaii as it has done in the past, nor can it overrule US
federal law. So Joe Biden would be our legal president (shudder). Of course he could step aside and let Pelosi become president.
What should be done is an appellate court should have the cojones to take up the issue and clarify this mess for Obama and others once and for all,
even if it leads to a constitutional crisis. If citizens with the right to vote in national elections don't have standing to bring suit in federal
courts on this issue then they have no right to decide whom the political parties put up to run and we don't have a democratic Republic.
So for you Geladinhu, the Constitution does matter to some of us, particularly us veterans who own Bibles and guns and thus are considered a threat to
the Fatherland, oops, I mean Homeland. Otherwise, Sieg Heil Comrade.
