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Originally posted by funkeemunkee84
reply to post by Mind1universe
Well we don't know the exact date that Jesus was born, but we do have an idea of around when he was. The bible tells us when John the baptist was born and tells us that he is about 6 months older than Jesus. The current date we use for Christmas does come from the pagan holiday, It was among many of the pagan holidays the catholic church took over in their attempt to convert the pagans in their new babylonian kingdom in order to collect alms/taxes. It was all done around the time of the Nicean conference.
Originally posted by clever024
reply to post by Mind1universe
I believe he is refering to "we as Christians" not those who try and enslave the Christians. and as a matter of fact, no the Vatican does not know what day Jesus was born, they can only speculate, because in fact, there is no "OFFICIAL RECORD" of his birth, just 2nd/3rd/4th hand accounts, actually let me take some of that back, The Vatican probably has an IDEA not an EXACT DATE, because they have access to a lot more scriptures than we do. after all, it is where "The Holy Library" is contained, and I also like how you say "your" world, as if, it not your world as well. let me ask you, are you a participant, or an observer? most participants bring something viable and useful to the table, hence they are participating, you just bring criticism, so I'm leaning toward observer in your case myself. there is still debate as to which year Jesus was born in, so to say they have a date.... most think its probably 3 B.C.E. if you really do your research, but hell its just semantics and minute details that after all is said and done, make little to no difference to the picture as a whole. its like taking a few grains of sand off a beach, no one is going to really notice and/or care.
[edit on 24-9-2009 by clever024]
Originally posted by Mind1universe
Did the Vatican tell you that they had an idea? You don't speak for the Vatican.
Originally posted by Mind1universeThink before you post.
Originally posted by Mind1universeThe Vatican knows a hell of a lot of things but your not aware. Until you are aware you can judge what is currently happening.
Originally posted by Mind1universeYour making a fool out of yourself.. Do you realise they actually have every record of human history stored for ions of years and pretty much the entire Human footprint since we were created on this planet. Every single detail. Every single book written. From Atlantis and Lemuria. Every ancient civilzation recorded that decendanded from Atlantis .ie. . From the Egyptians, Mayas, The crusades, The British Empires and all the ancients texts from the three major religions are under this rim. The Three major religions have a huge role in this reality. They were created for the control and divide program. This created evoulution on this planet.
Originally posted by Mind1universeThey told the people of the world that they burnt all the ancient libaries. They did, but they took what was inside them. They said they burnt all the ancient mayas records, they didn't they burnt the buildings down. There are many fractions of this world kept secret from you and they control what you know and what you don't know. They deceived the worlds over and over (for special reasons)
Originally posted by Mind1universeThey run your planet. If this organisation runs the soceity of the planet, they are sure to know what they must do and carry out accordingly. The construct of this world is not as simple or easily understood by the simple human mind. In fact the human mind at this point could not even come to terms with what the Vatican and illuminati actually do behind scenes. Without it, this world wouldn't even exist. Entities from all over the cosmos play the major role in how your planet is manifesting. Your not, as your not yet aware.
Originally posted by Mind1universeMeanwhile I would strongly keep your lips tied until you start to wake up! I wish you well on your journey.
Originally posted by Agree2Disagree
Whoa Whoa Whoa. WHO said christianity is about worshipping Jesus of Nazareth first? I don't believe there is ANYBODY that has said that. I am pretty sure that most christians, even the indoctrinated ones, know that their belief in Jesus of Nazareth as the Son of God is a faith based belief system in which they view Jesus's life as "the way" to get to Heaven and forge a personal relationship with God the Father. They simply see Jesus's life as something that could be imitated. They don't worship his life, they try to mimic it because it was righteous. Praise be to God the Father. I am sure any amount of xtians understand this. A2D