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Jesus Christ is the only way

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posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 08:20 PM
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You know, thinking about it is just as bad as doing it lol.... honestly I hate the smell of like pork chops and all, but love the smell of bacon, i do miss bacon lol (btw how much is "a lot longer"?)




posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 08:27 PM
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Oh, I don't think 2012 will be the 'end' - but I believe it's certainly mentioned in the prophecies.

The Bible speaks of earthquakes the likes that no man has ever seen or will ever see.

What else could bring that about BUT a pole shift.

I noticed in the Bible that God uses manmade scenarios to bring about prophecy - with the exception of Sodom and Gomorrah.
That one, the fire and brimstone, was His direct hand, I believe.

The flood was caused by rain as well as underground tunnels opening up that spewed water up I think.

It also talks about things like animals attacking people - and that may play into the shift as well. The more the earth slows during this shift, as it's doing right now - the more the inner migration systems of the birds and other migratory creatures gets messed up. I.e. all the sea life beaching themselves, no matter how many times rescuers return them to the sea they keep returning back to the shore, birds singing before the sun comes up, etc.

I do think eventually it's going to screw up the wild animals internal systems where they will start attacking for food.

That's just one example but an interesting one to me.

Have you ever seen the video about them finding the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah? Interestingggggggg............

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posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 08:31 PM
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Oh I have no idea........ but I do know that according to the Bible, once a peace treaty is signed with Israel, it might be a good time to strap on the crash helmet.

The Bible says that from the day that treaty is signed, three and a half years in to it, it will be broken. And the the muck hits the fan.

And the prez is currently discussing peace treaties with Israel.



Prophecy is interesting though - almost like a puzzle trying to figure it all out. Most of the prophecy we have seen fulfilled wouldn't have been able to come to pass until the computer came along and military weapons, etc.

That may be why it seems things are coming to pass very rapidly, I don't know.



posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 08:35 PM
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hey u2u me i have somethings to point out and a personal story to share with you as to my religious beliefs and why they are the way they are.... because I'll tell u at one time i was very anti-jesus



posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 08:51 PM
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People should stop trying to blame everything on some "supreme being" and start accounting for they own mistakes, instead of saying "its gods doing". The only thing that religion ever gave people is pain, death and brainwashing.

And those who disagree need to open their eyes and start living their life for themselfs instead for some god...



posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 09:11 PM
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i take it someone has never read proverbs..... "live life for yourself" quite selfish. i forget exactly which proverb it is, and its exact wording (not that wording matters) but it goes along the lines of this "observe the ant, for they hold the keys to wisdom, instead of fighting amongst themselves, they work towards a common goal" now death, everybody/thing dies (physically) however when you know that there is a God, and you have developed your relationship the supreme creator of all things, wouldn't you do everything in your power to please this being, although merciful, he did create you, and in an instant he can destroy you. I do agree with you that people use God as a scape goat too much to not be held accountable for their own actions, but on the other hand, to flat out say F*CK you I AM my own god, I please me.... no good can come of that.... and for your afterlife, I'm sure it will be filled with inequity



posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 09:17 PM
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Originally posted by Evangelical
The only logical conclusion is Jesus is the Christ.


yup.

[edit on 23-9-2009 by RANT2pointOh]



posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 11:40 PM
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As far as the prophecies and end times are concerned...I wouldn't get too involved in trying to figure it out.

We'll know the season(who HASN'T heard of 2012 prophecies...?) but we won't know the day or time. Prepare yourselves and keep your hearts and minds pure and you have nothing to fear.

A2D


 
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posted on Sep, 24 2009 @ 12:05 AM
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Yes, English is my first language. I'm not even certain why you asked that.

As for the above where someone asked if you wanted to please god, I have a bit of advice...

Never act like you are anyone else but yourself, flaws and all. Not to please god and not to please others.

To Thine own self be True. Do not change your behavior merely because it might offend god, especially if it is a part of who you are. Do not deceive yourself or others for the sake of redemption or promise of salvation.

Always, to thine own self be true.



posted on Sep, 24 2009 @ 12:57 AM
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I love how people write " according to the bible" or they refer to some scripture as if it is verifying a fact. You will not find god in between the covers of a book. Think for yourself, god gave you a brain, use it, your all blind sheep.

It is ironic that you have become the very thing The Christ would be against. He wasn't trying to create a system to heaven, but empowering his followers to think for themselves, and close the gap between humanity and the almighty.

did he not say things like, " I am the son of god, ye are my brothers and sister, these things and more shall you do " ?? did the disciples ever worship him ?? he tried to live by example, .... perhaps the truth he spoke about was the truth .... but only the truth that the people of the time could understand, .... that was over 2000 years ago.

Wake up, forget everything you know, lose yourself and create it again.

Yet I wonder, how the world looks from the vantage point of inside a box ??? Yet my words will be unheaded, and the point lost, I suppose you will be ready, .... when your ready.

I just find it unfortunate that god is seen through such narrow eyes. God is more infinate and eternal than most of you can imagine. Yet you would not know him if you passed him on the street.



posted on Sep, 24 2009 @ 01:14 AM
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Originally posted by IntastellaBurst


I love how people write " according to the bible" or they refer to some scripture as if it is verifying a fact. You will not find god in between the covers of a book. Think for yourself, god gave you a brain, use it, your all blind sheep.

It is ironic that you have become the very thing The Christ would be against. He wasn't trying to create a system to heaven, but empowering his followers to think for themselves, and close the gap between humanity and the almighty.

did he not say things like, " I am the son of god, ye are my brothers and sister, these things and more shall you do " ?? did the disciples ever worship him ?? he tried to live by example, .... perhaps the truth he spoke about was the truth .... but only the truth that the people of the time could understand, .... that was over 2000 years ago.

Wake up, forget everything you know, lose yourself and create it again.

Yet I wonder, how the world looks from the vantage point of inside a box ??? Yet my words will be unheaded, and the point lost, I suppose you will be ready, .... when your ready.

I just find it unfortunate that god is seen through such narrow eyes. God is more infinate and eternal than most of you can imagine. Yet you would not know him if you passed him on the street.


I will state again, Jesus of Nazerath was not the christ, he was guided into believing that he was enlightened for an agenda that is amongst our society today. Just look at how he divides the people, even people today murdering in his name (Bush).

To worship a human man above the Superior One is an abomination even to suggest.

The Diving One is not a him nor a her once again purely main stream religion.



[edit on 24-9-2009 by Psychonaughty]



posted on Sep, 24 2009 @ 01:31 AM
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People on here need to stop bashing Christians based on their false doctrines and sorely wrong understandings of the Bible and Jesus Christ......We Christians speak of God and try to spread the Gospel simply because the bible tells us to. I suggest everyone do their homework before they go quoting things out of text. Furthermore the end times cannot be accurately predicted since Jesus himself says they cannot be. The end will come as thief in the night. People must understand that as a prerequisite for free will we must have the ability to choose whether to believe or not on out own. If God's existence were shown to us without a shadow of a doubt then there would be no choice but to believe eliminating our freewill. We must take what evidences are given to us and seek of the Holy Ghost promised to us.

Matthew 24:36
No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Matthew 24:42
Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come

Now as to everyone that knocks on the bible saying it's inaccurate because it was written by men through God's inspiration, How do you truly know it's wrong ? Were you there shadowing Jesus when he was on earth? or there while Daniel was thrown into the den of lions for defending God against King Nebuchadnezzar ? For that question if you stand for modern sciences, can you yourself work out the equations presented as proofs or do you take the answers told to you to be true beyond a shadow of a doubt ?

Seek the Holy Ghost, when you feel it you will know God is real.
Acts 2:38 will show you how.

[edit on 24-9-2009 by funkeemunkee84]



posted on Sep, 24 2009 @ 02:06 AM
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I disagree.

I do agree that it's wrong to worship Jesus, he's just a messenger from the Father of how we can maintain contact with Him. Jesus was not trying to establish a 'system' to get into Heaven, system = religion. He was trying to show that LIFE is the system in which one uses to get into heaven.

I don't believe Jesus was misguided into believing he was the Christ. I believe he WAS the Christ. The division that happened despite his message is just something that's bound to happen to humanity. He wasn't trying to separate them by any means. He was trying to pull them all together. Instead, man again exercises that thing we love so much, free will, to divide and conquer. Differing views and extremism to the point of segregation and hatred has and will always be a staple of humanity, whether large or small scale.

A2D



posted on Sep, 24 2009 @ 08:28 AM
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Originally posted by zlots331
With all due respect, whenever I see a thread that states that there is only one way to achieve a desired goal be it Islam, Christianity, or the local voodoo-doctor, I always come up with the same result; hell is going to be a pretty crowded place.

My own personal beliefs are just that, personal. I've been around for quite a few haircuts and I have settled on an understanding that makes sense to me and gives me great comfort. I don't deny anyone else their beliefs but I do know that the path I have chosen is the one that I was meant to find and I don't have to pick any one specific day to acknowledge my understanding, its always there.

That, and I have found Mapquest to be quite handy in finding your "way".


If there were other ways to belong to God, do you think He would have sent His only Son to be tortured and crucified? If there were other ways, such as chanting hare krishna or climbing a mountain which faces due east, or decorating an alter with a picture of a boy with blue skin, or feeding rats, I kinda think God would not have gone to the extreme that He did. But we all have free will to believe what we choose.



posted on Sep, 24 2009 @ 09:24 AM
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Originally posted by Agree2Disagree
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I disagree.

I do agree that it's wrong to worship Jesus, he's just a messenger from the Father of how we can maintain contact with Him. Jesus was not trying to establish a 'system' to get into Heaven, system = religion. He was trying to show that LIFE is the system in which one uses to get into heaven.

I don't believe Jesus was misguided into believing he was the Christ. I believe he WAS the Christ. The division that happened despite his message is just something that's bound to happen to humanity. He wasn't trying to separate them by any means. He was trying to pull them all together. Instead, man again exercises that thing we love so much, free will, to divide and conquer. Differing views and extremism to the point of segregation and hatred has and will always be a staple of humanity, whether large or small scale.

A2D


He was not misguided he was guided, he knew this.

Once again, the word "Father" is of Human nature.

The Christ was not of this era, Jesus of Nazerath was not the Christ. The real Christ came to tell us how to return.

The Divine One does not care of what you do, you are not damned to "hell" for eternity for sins, you simply get what you put out kharma kharma kharma, it's on a personal level do not let human intervention (Jesus) get between you and the Divine.



posted on Sep, 24 2009 @ 11:04 AM
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Originally posted by Agree2Disagree
reply to post by Psychonaughty
The Divine One does not care of what you do, you are not damned to "hell" for eternity for sins, you simply get what you put out kharma kharma kharma, it's on a personal level do not let human intervention (Jesus) get between you and the Divine.
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Nowhere in the Bible will you find the word "karma", or anything even suggesting that 'what goes around comes around'. With all due respect, your choice of grammar and sentence structure makes you sound as if you are reciting some form of brainwashed bylaws ? But just to point out what the Bible DOES say........ I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6 So your 'bylaw' of not letting Jesus get between you and the "Divine" is misleading people, as well as yourself.



[edit on 24-9-2009 by nomorecruelty]



posted on Sep, 24 2009 @ 01:18 PM
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Originally posted by nomorecruelty


Originally posted by Agree2Disagree
reply to post by Psychonaughty
The Divine One does not care of what you do, you are not damned to "hell" for eternity for sins, you simply get what you put out kharma kharma kharma, it's on a personal level do not let human intervention (Jesus) get between you and the Divine.

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Nowhere in the Bible will you find the word "karma", or anything even suggesting that 'what goes around comes around'. With all due respect, your choice of grammar and sentence structure makes you sound as if you are reciting some form of brainwashed bylaws ? But just to point out what the Bible DOES say........ I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6 So your 'bylaw' of not letting Jesus get between you and the "Divine" is misleading people, as well as yourself.



[edit on 24-9-2009 by nomorecruelty]

Once again you quote from the Bible which is a fabricated text.

You can't keep on saying that my statements are wrong simply because the Bible says so, for that is not implying truth and/or facts.

You are taking words from a human being.

Think back before you were told about Jesus, and all the information that has been thrown upon you, get back on track.

Il vecchio sentiero e vicino "The old path is near".



posted on Sep, 24 2009 @ 05:27 PM
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I notice in one of your posts you claim the Jesus was in fact not the Christ, but there is another Christ, one no one seems to know about popularly and you promote.... and as for saying the bible is fabricated, many things written in there have come to pass or prophesized so i say that your belief system is in fact the one that is fabricated, and poorly at that. but in the same breath you claim not to let man get between you and and "the divine one" and claim of another Christ, again that I have never heard of, is the one you follow? I do agree the what goes around comes around, Jesus came to forgive sin and die for man's sins, so they may be forgiven and they enter the kingdom of God, however, he said that he was never coming back himself, instead, The Holy Spirit is coming back, to convict of Sin and of Ritchousness. so seeing you have rejected the true gift of being forgiven, I do pity you for when you are convicted.



posted on Sep, 24 2009 @ 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon
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Silly Pagan... Jesus was born around May 5th. The church merely stole the Pagan holiday of Yule (and the tree) as a convenient date because it was easier to convert people on an existing holiday than to kill one and start a new one

That is common knowledge even amongst most studied Christians

Besides at the time of Jesus it was not that cold in the area. Most people, wore very light clothing. Have you ever seen the Greeks, Egyptians Israelites and Roman wear heavy winter coats (unless they went to war in cold climate)


PS A blue robe would be an affront to a true Druid


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Jesus was not born may 5th.

it's a day that has already made itself known in the last decade.


Can you guess what day that is. I'd would be careful stating things as fact in future. His date is not known the public as official. But the powers of be have made his date pretty obvious in recent years.



posted on Sep, 24 2009 @ 06:47 PM
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Originally posted by clever024
reply to post by Psychonaughty
 


I notice in one of your posts you claim the Jesus was in fact not the Christ, but there is another Christ, one no one seems to know about popularly and you promote.... and as for saying the bible is fabricated, many things written in there have come to pass or prophesized so i say that your belief system is in fact the one that is fabricated, and poorly at that. but in the same breath you claim not to let man get between you and and "the divine one" and claim of another Christ, again that I have never heard of, is the one you follow? I do agree the what goes around comes around, Jesus came to forgive sin and die for man's sins, so they may be forgiven and they enter the kingdom of God, however, he said that he was never coming back himself, instead, The Holy Spirit is coming back, to convict of Sin and of Ritchousness. so seeing you have rejected the true gift of being forgiven, I do pity you for when you are convicted.


No, not speaking of another Christ I'm speaking of the Christ.

Who says the Christ human?

Another Christian damning me with the very belief that is only his/hers.

The Christ has nothing to do with Jesus of Nazerath.

You speak of something being popular, when that is the trap, anything popular is fabricated the task is on a personal leve.

Recollect everything you use to know, devalue the things that were taught to you since you forgot the former and return.






[edit on 24-9-2009 by Psychonaughty]



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