Soldier balks at deploying; says Obama isn’t president

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I applaud this soldier with his fight against being deloyed, anything that can be done to prove and show that Obama is hiding behind the courts in order to not have to show his real birth certificate. It is simple, you don't spend millions of dollars to hide something that would settle the issue. Anybody posting on here that this is not important simply misses the point of what our country was founded on.

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What a Freaken Victory!!!

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Wasn't your country founded on people born in other countries?

What does that have to do with our laws and rules about who can serve as President of this country? Make a better case! Be a leader and stop being a follower! Thanks for posting...

His fight isn't against being deployed, per se, rather against being deployed under illegal orders. He wants to step up and protect himself and the soldiers under his command...furthermore, he wants to provide factual evidence of the president's ineligibility to hold office. Personally, i was deployed under the orders of the former commander in chief, so im golden....but if one deploys under Obama's orders and he is found to be ineligible for the presidency, the geneva convention would not apply to the soldiers deployed under illegal orders....and i dont want that to be me, so i definitely applaud this officer. He is doing the right thing, taking the hard right, instead of the easy wrong. There should NEVER be any questions as to weather or not our nation's leader and commander in chief is even eligible and his refusal to provide hard evidence is to say the least, a little suspicious.

He's provided plenty of evidence, and every time he does, the people obsessing over it stick their fingers in their ears and go "la la la la"

You folks are not going to overturn the results of an election you don't like by cooking up some transparently phony technical foul.

It's ridiculous

Sadly, most of the people that usually balk at "liberal Nancy-boys" that refuse to serve, potential draft-dodgers, past soldiers that refused Bushs' similar orders based on their belief that the very war was illegal, and those they claim are simple disrespectful of our military, will now support this legless claim simply because it fuels the "birthers" political agenda.

Talk about a flexible moral compass.

Personally I believe he should just admit the truth...he doesn't want to go to Afghanistan.

As a soldier, if he loved his country and knew he was needed, he wouldn't care if ""Prince Pickles" told him to ship out!

Lame.

- Lee

The man took an oath and should respect that oath.



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Obama is the President and will be the President until, and IF, a court decides otherwise.

The man could still get his lawyer to defend his case in court while he is deployed.

He is going to go to Afghanistan or to prison, I can promise you that. The court system doesn't take Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity as a source of information. This poor gullible fool is going to be in real trouble for believing this "Obama isn't president" crap.

As far as thinking people filing suit means anything, I can file a lawsuit over anything that doesn't mean it has any credibility. If Obama wasn't qualified to be POTUS it would have been settled a long time ago. I have never in my life seen such a bunch of sore losers. So just keep shaking your heads back and forth and telling yourself, "He can't be President, he's not qualified" until you change reality.

good to see this getting more coverage...
HUGE ongoing discussion here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

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I believe this makes a great point regarding this case, if only the Obama sheeple were so lost in the left-right belief system and simply saw this for what it is they would care more about the fact that it isn't about OBAMA winning or Bush being such a A whole but more about the truth and facts that he maybe the sitting President only because the MSM and the Elite are allowing the truth to be swept under the rug... I am amazed by how many people are so go along with all the changes that are so not American simply because they like the guy.

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I can definitely see the Major's concern, seeing as the Dems want to now prosecute federal employees for following orders that were legal when Bush was President. What'll happen with all the orders he published when Obama is found constitutionally ineligible to be President? Will those who followed those orders also be prosecuted?

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Did you support those that refused to go to Iraq under a similar premise of illegality?

If it comes down to simple opinion based on rumor and speculation and not on any facts, as with this case, then I suspect a lot of people will be creating scenarios that no longer obligate them to be deployed anywhere they don't wish to be in the near future.

See how this could cause a problem?



It's a free country, you can question or claim anything.

Someone sued a dry cleaner for 54 million over a pair of lost pants.
Someone sued Bush and Cheney for the Iraq war.

The federal court in Philadelphia and even the supreme court have thrown out this claim based on a lack of evidence, so not only is he challenging the President, but rejecting the rulings of the U.S. judicial system.

If he doesn't have personal proof to back up his claim, he's being very foolish and NO a newspaper clipping from Ghana won't cut it.

I find it moronic to try and deny your legal duty based on nothing but rumor and speculation. At least the Iraq war was declared illegal by some so that argument used by a few soldiers had a little more legging.

In my opinion this man is either desperate to avoid deployment while attempting to save face, is such a fool that when he received a bunch of chain emails he actually BELIEVED all the contents therein were literal facts (surprisingly it happens), or is serving a political agenda.

I wonder if he will represent himself in court to "seal the deal" on one of those possibilities?

- Lee

Where is the birth certificate that records who the doctor was that delivered him, and the name of the hospital in which it took place?

Is that really too much to ask?

Imagine an enemy of the USA, manages to get himself elected, with the aid of the mainstream media, with a strategy to fool the ignorant masses by making them feel smart for supporting their agent?

I wonder what that individual might do, to render the USA into another failed socialist state?

Deliberately collapse our capitalist economy? Nationalise our industries? Tell private citizens who work in private business how much they can earn?

Forcing the population into financial ruin would make them dependent on the state for food, housing and healthcare... transforming a servant government into one where the people are now servants.

Why, such an individual could appoint the most deranged, radical moonbats to offices of power, and quickly pass crippling laws with complete impunity, thanks to the state propaganda machine we know as the press looking the other way...

Wow, I wonder what it would be like if that ever happened here?

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dude your just using the laws as an excuse. Why anyone keeps pushing this "Obama is a foreigner!" crap is beyond me. Would it be so bad if he was born in Africa? or Hawaii? Maybe he would do things from a different perspective no? I mean if you really want the same old talking head business of which is the American presidency then keep pushing your propaganda. A year hasn't even passed with this guy in office, yet he has been the one with the most die hard opposition from day one. I understand why this man may not want to be deployed; being a soldier is not safe or fun job. But Obama is our president none the less.

im saying that there is too much speculation about his eligibility for it to be coincidince. this could be a good chance for obama to lay the issue to rest once and for all. you cant refuse to deploy and if you do, then you shouldnt be in the army in the first place, but deploying under illegal orders is different. im sure that if the case makes it and obama is shown to be eligible for the presidency beyone a reasonable doubt, this officer will dilligently deploy and carry out his duty. He is NOT denying his legal duty, he is upholding it by questioning an order that could be illegal.

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"DohBama" Another great point of view! I simply find it amazing that simply asking the question makes us "Haters" when in fact it simply warrents an answer. Somebody posted that he has released the documents but the truth is "He Has Never" released the information needed on the long form including Dr name, Witnesses and so on. If they only cared more about the truth and not the left-right crap we would not be living this nightmare!

We could ask the same of you.

The recent Afghanistan war started under George Bush, our previous President, the fact that the military STILL needs people under Obama doesn't allow soldiers a loophole out of service if they don't like the newcomer.

There is NO evidence to even back up this soldiers claims and the U.S. courts have already seen this to be a joke not worth consideration.

He is avoiding his obligations and putting other soldiers in potential danger now, and in the near future when other such nonsensical claims can help you bail out of service or tie up your deployment in a legal loophole and short change the troops already serving.

I hope he isn't thinking this move is patriotic.

- Lee

Yes, it would be against the law, in clear violation of our Constitution.

A document that doesn't mean much to some, however, this country could not exist without.

Its the law, sparky, and it is a good one.

Why not let anyone from any country run for our president?

Duuuuuu-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-ude.... put the bong down for a while.

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BO has spent quite a bit of our money on legal teams to keep his b.c. from inquiring eyes.

The news media of course, doesnt find anything newsworthy about this...

Curious, that.

DUDE? That is the point but I wouldn't expect anybody going around calling people dude would truly get it! The law is the law, if he wasn't born in the US then make it known, if they are going to make changes to our Constitution then simply make it known! The only perspective should be the perspective of the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights. If he is a Foreigner then so be it, just let the truth come out! It makes me sick! Bush Sr. Clinton and Bush Jr. were all bogus as well so let's just know the truth for now on!!!!