Hello Conar,

You are absolutely correct about the thermite, I was just picking on little Swampy because he so glibly tries to gloss over the facts. The fact that for the Official Fairy-tale to be true, we would have to suspend the laws of science on the day that 911 occurred.

The post just after yours by WinstonSmith911 concerning newly declassified information could prove pivotal in bringing about a new investigation. Lets hope so...

So where does thermite fit into financial proof? Can you show a money trail as to where the 1000's of tons of thermite used came from or the paychecks of the operatives that planted it or the gas receipts from the trucks that transported it?

That would be financial proof.

Sibel Edmonds, Former Language Specialist; FBI — Ms. Edmonds worked for the FBI’s Washington Field Office as a language specialist with Top Secret Clearance performing translations for counterterrorism and counterintelligence operations dealing with Turkey, Iran, and Turkic speaking Central Asian countries. She contacted the 9/11 Commission in May 2003 and requested a meeting to provide them with information directly related to the terrorist attack. The Commission investigators refused to meet with Edmonds and informed her that due to their limited resources and time they were not going to interview all witnesses. She was able to provide the commission with information and documents only after certain 9/11 family members intervened directly. Ms. Edmonds’ testimony was completely censored by the Commission.

Behrooz Sarshar, Former Language Specialist; FBI — Mr. Sarshar worked for the FBI’s Washington Field Office as a language specialist with Top Secret Clearance performing Farsi translations for counterterrorism and counterintelligence operations dealing with Iran and Afghanistan. He had first-hand information of prior specific warning obtained from a reliable informant in April 2001 on the terrorist attacks of September 11. Mr. Sarshar contacted the Commission directly but was refused. He was given an interview with the Commission investigators only after 9/11 family members intervened directly. Mr. Sarshar’s documented testimony was completely omitted from the commissioners final report, despite his case being publicly confirmed by Director Mueller’s Office.

Mike German, Special Agent, Counterterrorism; FBI — Mr. German served sixteen years as an FBI Special Agent and is one of the rare agents credited with actually having prevented acts of terrorism before it became the FBI’s number one priority. He contacted the Commission in the spring of 2004, but did not receive a response. In 2002 he reported gross mismanagement in a post-9/11 counterterrorism investigation, which included serious violations of FBI policy and federal law. Mr. German contacted the 9/11 Commission during its investigation and requested that he be given an interview session in order to provide them with certain domestic counterterrorism investigations that he’d pursued. According to Mr. German there were links between certain domestic and international counterterrorism related to the September 11 attacks. The 9/11 Commissioners refused to acknowledge his request and never interviewed him.

Gilbert Graham, Retired Special Agent, Counterintelligence; FBI — Mr. Graham worked for the FBI’s Washington Field Office Counterintelligence Division until 2002. In February 2004 his name and contact information were provided to the Commission as a key witness with information pertinent to the Commission’s investigation. The 9/11 Commission refused to follow up and never contacted Mr. Graham.

Coleen Rowley, Retired Division Counsel; FBI — In May 2002, Coleen Rowley, as the Division Counsel at the FBI Minneapolis Office, blew the whistle on the FBI’s failure to pursue Zacarias Moussaoui’s case prior to 9/11, despite all attempts made by the Minneapolis division counterterrorism agents. She reported that FBI HQ personnel in Washington, D.C., had mishandled and neglected to take action on information provided by her division. Despite her high-profile case the commission chose not to interview Ms. Rowley. According to Ms. Rowley, no one from the FBI Minneapolis Office (several Agents had direct information) was ever asked to provide testimony [or] information to the 9/11 Commission.

Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Shaffer, DIA — Colonel Shaffer provided the Commission with detailed information on intelligence and pre warning information obtained by his unit’s data mining project, Able Danger. The 9/11 commission staff received not one but two briefings on Able Danger from Mr. Shaffer and his former team members, yet did not pursue the case, did not follow up on this documented report and refused to subpoena the relevant files. Mr. Shaffer’s testimony, together with other witnesses who corroborated his testimony and information, were censored by the 9/11 Commissioners and never made it to its final report.

Dick Stoltz, Retired Special Agent; ATF — Mr. Stoltz, a veteran undercover agent with the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms, had played an important role in Operation Diamondback between 1998 and 2001. The sting operation involved a group of Middle Eastern men living in New Jersey who were caught on tape in an ATF weapons sting conspiring to buy millions of dollars of weapons including components for nuclear bombs. The case came to a screeching halt with the arrest of only a handful of suspects in June of 2001 even though there was ample evidence that some of the people who were attempting to buy these weapons had connections with the Taliban, Al Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden himself. The 9/11 Commission refused to contact Agent Stoltz despite all attempts made by several witnesses from the intelligence and law enforcement communities, and the 9/11 Family group, Jersey Moms.

Linda Lewis, Retired Emergency Programs Specialist; USDA — Ms. Lewis worked for 13 years evaluating and coordinating federal, state and local preparedness for nuclear, radiological and chemical weapons emergencies. Prior to September 11, 2001, she had reported numerous inadequacies and dysfunctions in emergency preparedness, including a culture of intimidation that discouraged federal evaluators from reporting inadequacies in state and local plans and preparedness. USDA officials had thwarted her efforts to bring in terrorism experts to help the agency prepare for attacks on federal buildings, including bio-weapons attacks such as the anthrax attacks of 2001. In vain, she had urged FEMA officials to develop a national emergency communications plan and require interoperability of federally funded emergency communications equipment. In the absence of these preparations, New York City firefighters and police officers were unable to communicate critical information on September 11 at the World Trade Center. Ms. Lewis contacted the Commission and offered to provide information regarding dysfunctional government preparedness, but the Commission never responded.

Mark Burton, Senior Analyst; NSA — Mr. Burton served as an all-source threat analyst in NSA’s Information Assurance Directorate (IAD) for most of his 16-year career. He was the editor of IAD’s premier threat document, the 300+ page ISSO Global Threat Summary, and was an adjunct faculty member at NSA’s National Cryptologic School. He provided dozens of pages of relevant information to the 9/11 Commission, but was completely ignored and never asked to testify.

The above list does not include many others from the intelligence and law enforcement communities who had similarly contacted or reported to the commission but had been either turned away or censored, and of course many others who are still working within these agencies and are fearful of making their identities known, due to the relentless pursuit of and retaliation against whistleblowers by government agencies. — National Security Whistleblowers Coalition (PDF)

It’s clear now to anyone paying the least bit of attention that the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks were completely preventable, but not by the U.S. government as it was then — and still is now, but by a government which took its whistleblowers seriously, investigated their complaints with alacrity, and acted with speed, could have foiled this particular plot.

Originally posted by esdad71
So where does thermite fit into financial proof? Can you show a money trail as to where the 1000's of tons of thermite used came from or the paychecks of the operatives that planted it or the gas receipts from the trucks that transported it?

That would be financial proof.

let's see. it's nano-thermite, which can only be manufactured in highly specialised labs. so, presumably it came from a military facility, like fork derrick where the anthrax came from.
there are many budgets which are 'black', and presumably ALL things 9/11 were paid for with hidden resources, and/or transactions were done with cash.

you ignore all the overwhelming evidence of fowl play presented in this thread in favour of your red herring strawman.

gas receipts? lol! what would a gas receipt prove other than trucks use fuel.

Originally posted by shanerz

So to get a cost estimate for a 10-100 ton range of this aluminum powder *edit: (Thermitic material), which is 1:3 atomic weight ratio Al:Rust. 1 part aluminum to 3 parts rust. Was actually 9:26.666... but I rounded up rust to make it easier and give ya a lil leeway. Objects in mirror are closer than they appear.

We get 2.5-25 million USD.

Hehe, it was tonnes, not tons. 200 pound per unit difference.

So now we get a 2.75-27.5 million USD cost on the aluminum powder used in the suspected thermitic material.

I told you objects in the mirror are closer than they appear.

They are all rich at the expense of their people's lives
how about the 99 years lease of the "tin" towers by u know whom ???