reply to post by Mintwithahole.
Let me start with saying that I think that crop circles are most likely made by people. My problem with this lies in the why they make them.
I understand the desire of an artist to have his/her work appreciated, revered, talked-about, etc. BUT...
1. need/want to make money.
Problem: There are many different companies that make money off of circles. Dvds, calendars, tours, etc. However, it is a seasonal business
that requires money to produce their products. All of these different companies can not be paying the artist, without ever revealing the artist. The
more involved in a "scheme" (can't think of another word) the more likely the scheme is to be revealed.
2. same artist for decades?
Problem: not quite plausible. More than one artist? Ups the chance greatly of getting caught. Again, the more people involved, the more chance
of getting caught. People that are in business together often end up fighting about something. Yet, the circles continue night after night without
any DIRECT link to the makers.
3. Circle makers from the 80's Doug and Dave?
Problem: the one guy died back in '94 or '95.
4. Farmers get paid or allow circles because they make money too?
Problem: Some farmers get really angry and go out and destroy the circle. Yet, the very next night an addition to the circle is made or the
circle is simply restored to its original design. Considering trespassing and destruciton of property is illegal, I should think going back to a
field in which it is obvious that the owner is ticked, is a rather brazen move all in the name of "art". Further, you can only make one argument:
either the farmers are in on it or they're not. you can't have some farmers in and some not in -- but still have designs in their fields. this
makes no logical sense.
5. Boards and ropes?
Problem: different sized circles would require different sized boards. Unless the circles are all done on the basis of the smallest board. In
other words, if you have a 3 foot long board, then to use this board, your circles would have to be 3 foot, 6 foot, 9 foot, etc. But the circles are
not done proportionately. Keep in mind that the designs are often found in fields many many yards from the road. The makers would have to park their
car and carry all of the equipment to the field. Completely undetected.
Also to this argument comes the problem of making rounded sides. Boards are straight and unbendable. Now, you can take a straight line and continue
moving it closer and closer to get a curved appearance, but there would still be a straight edge somewhere - no matter how small. However, the
circles are completely fluid with NO discerning straight edges.
6. Military eyes watching?
Problem: Because a man shot at some crop circle visitors the other day, the police and military have now begun watching the fields at night.
They fly helicopters throughout the countryside and survey the fields looking for people making circles. Yet, they have found nobody. And, the
circles continue. Again, i would say that this is a rather large risk all in the name of "art".
I could see the explanation that artists would make them for a season, maybe two. But season after season -- for decades. Just for fun. Just for
the thrill of not getting caught. All to invoke a reaction. This just does not make logical sense to me.
As a final note, just because there have been some you tube videos of hoaxed circles, does not make all circles hoaxes. There have been MANY faked
UFO videos, but this hardly means all UFO sightings are hoaxes.
It's much easier to go back and duplicate something that has already been done (especially in broad daylight with an entire team of people) than it
is to be the original maker, in the cover of darkness, completely undetected.
There have been numerous circles that completely and accurately depict the exact location of the planets on the night that the circle was made. So
now not only these makers great secret crop layers -- they apparently are also great astronomers with a very powerful telescope in order to get the
alignments just right.
Again, seems like an awful lot of work for the sheer fun of creating "art".
[edit on 22-7-2009 by lpowell0627]