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Originally posted by s0cket
It's not fair you take up the cause of speaking for America. I'm not shamed by it... I didn't have anything to do with it. It was bad what happened but you're being overly dramatic about it. The people who are involved obviously are going to be punished and that's that. It's not like these pictures where something you'd see on ------------------------- or something. The "torture" they endured is child's play compared to what they put our boy's through then they get captured.
So get real. No it wasn't right what happened. But keep it in prospective.
[Edited on 7-5-2004 by s0cket]
Originally posted by UM_Gazz
A few weeks ago, could you have dreamed of the events we all have seen?
Can you now look away, or seek a rational way to dismiss the fact that we as a nation have been shamed in every possible way?
We are a nation of freedom, a nation of pride, and thoght to have been a nation of "higher moral value"... We have felt the hand of evil, and have shown that we are no longer immune to being seen as that very evil.
Through the actions of a few, we have been hit with the shameful reality that, just because we are the world's super power, and we have all the answers to the world conflicts... we at least are no better than them... we are human beings, with flaws, and unspeakable evils, just as they are.
We are human on all sides... and this war so far has shown at least that.
No matter what is said and done from this day forward, there will be no way to erase this shame.
You can put any spin on it you want, soak up the media hype, or just avoid the topic all together. It will not change what has happened or what has been done.
Everyone is seeking justice now.. but who is just in this war now?
We are the people of this world and that is all of us... on all sides... when you can see the value of all human lives and learn the most basic respect for that life maybe we can find some real answers and move toward peace.. a real and lasting peace.
What the hell did Iraq have to do with the war on terrorism?.. someone asked me once and I made pages of answers.. but now I am willing to admit that going into Iraq had nothing to do with the war on the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11/01.
Shame on them, and now it is shame on us.
The next time we are attacked there will be many more in the middle east and a great deal of the world who will say "they had it coming" or they got what they deserved"
The impact of the recent events of this war will take years to evolve.. and even longer to understand.. we exposed to the world our basic flaw of being human and can become evil in every possible way.
War On Terrorism?
Show me who the real terrorists are now!... better yet show me where they are.
Think! ... a brain is only a waste as long as you are without an open mind.