Much has been said on this thread about Mahamudra and Dzogen etc, and as Omega's Op is about the undying Buddha mind etc... this all relates, all of
the Buddha's teachings were gradiants and paths designed to lead all other beings to his experience.
There is no other experience of the True Buddha Mind than Mahamudra.
Mahumudra when realized is the Buddha Mind, and presently within the Tibetan buddhist branch of lineages, there are teachings and trainings that have
been passed on from Master to Student by word only and never written down (certain parts) , but these teachings are unbroken and have been proven and
recorded historically to have been an unbroken teaching from the Disciples of Buddha themselves.
They are in fact the actual words and teachings of Shakamuni Buddha as given to his disciples who were able to actually realise what he did, and so on
until this day.
The person who currently heads this lineage is still young but recieving more of these transmissions every day, the Karmapa.
His main teacher, and one prophesised by the Buddha many here talk about, to be the Next Buddha in a later lifetime is called the Kenting Tai
The Tai Situpa is current on retreat, and as the Karmapa gains in experience and understanding, more of his "Secret" oral only teachings will be
passed on, as spoken by the Buddha originally.
Really anyone who thinks after six months or a few years of staring at the clouds or reading books realizes enlightenment is slightly deluded, and
this is the ego again.
Certainly you have a greater awarness, more mindfullness, drop some ego etc and get closer to that goal... but it takes much much much time in
meditation, cretain teachings not available except if a Teacher deems you "fit" or capable, or ready of the teaching (as you can go mad or dangers
lurk on the way for those not able to handle certain truths and experiences without a breakdown etc)....
So to be a bit Real here... realizing your own enlightenment is not bought in a 7/11 store... not bought in a weekend workshop etc..... and many many
who devout their entire lives to it only get a portion of the way...
HOWEVER that is only because of the nature of our minds, and the Ego and veils built up for many mnay lifetimes to this already realized mind of
ours... a cleansing and process can take place to get there for certain people in just 1 Lifetime, to clear all the subconscious crap and karma, and
patterns and habits and emotionally reactive ways of acting, thinking and feeling... but it takes a lot of hard work and much much time, ability as it
is so simple, but soo much is in the way of that simple realization.
So below is a quote on Maha Mudra from the worlds current most informed, authoratative and knowledable person, indeed as predicted by the last Buddha
the next buddha himself! Tai Situpa
Maha Mudra Practice
Given by the 12th Kenting Tai Situpa at Palpung Sherabling, March 2007.
Transcribed by Bema Chodron
I want to tell you one more time. Mahamudra practice is directly dealing with the essence of everything and everyone.
The purpose of entire practice of Dharma is to attain Buddhahood. There is no other purpose.
And the purpose of attaining Buddhahood is to assist all sentient being to attain Buddhahood. There is no other purpose.
The purpose of all sentient being to attain Buddhahood is because it is their destination.
It is their destination because it is their potential. It is their essence. And until that potential and essence is fully matured, they will not stop
Suffering does not only mean pain.
Suffering means unnecessarily going in circle, looking for something which can never be found.
So, instead of looking for something which can never be found, then one should finally come to one's sense by knowing what you are looking is not
anywhere, it is inside you. It is you who you are looking for. You are not looking for anything anywhere. It is the essence of you, the potential of
you that is what you are looking for.
We go up to heaven and down to hell and circle around in the entire vast limitless space for countless eons. And did we find anything up to today? We
are still looking for, and searching for. Therefore the Prince Siddhartha has attained the enlightenment which is nothing more, nothing less than
equal potential of everyone, and everything. I say everything because there is no everything without everyone.
The Dalai Lama as I quoted in my first post explained one of his experiences was at a level quite low on the understanding of this above teaching, and
Buddha Mind, the Tai Situpa linked above is prophecised if you know your scriptures to be next Buddha on earth in a later life time.
He has had teachings from many many great masters and dedicated this and many previous lives to getting there..... and he is now in retreat again just
him and his mind, clearing it, working at it, meditating 24/7 but still would not claim to be enlightened as in the full teachings and understanding
of Buddha Mind Maha Mudra.
So I am getting a bit real with all those who state they are there already, or can reach it from reading, debating, etc etc...
I have had a NDE and some very mild experiences of Bodhicitta, true Bodhicitta a very low level of emptiness massively below, not even an inch
compared to a million miles what the Dalai Lama had.
At the time for a few moments the next day my EGO grabbed me a bit to till I caught it, tricking me into thinking it was there, or special, I had
experienced godmind etc.... as when these experiences happen they are very overwhelming, very overpowering, so differant to "normality" and what we
are used to.... but I very quickly realised the minute scale of that experience.
Lets get real here guys, we are all enlightened already, but have no illusions to the absolute massive layers of ego, karma, illusion and side alleys
between you and that mind, no matter how strong your experience is. We have to work a bit to get there I am sorry, if you want to do it in one
lifetime start studying Mahamudra and find a Lama teacher, maybe just maybe you might have a glimpse before you die in this lifetime.
If anyone on here thinks otherwise or that they are already there, please do contact someone like a Lama from the Tai Situpa lineage... discuss with
him your experience's and I am more than sure if they match those, as taught by word of mouth from the Buddha to his disciples, you will very soon be
recognised for that mind, from your knowledge of what happens, and other tests certain people are able to do to asscertain your genuiness, and soon
maybe able to teach the people as mentioned in this post, as they as admitted by themselves have a long way to exoperience it properly.
There is no road to enlightenment without Humility, and as any real parctitioner knows it is bad form to discuss your actual progress and realisation,
except with your Lama/Teacher.
If you are a teacher to teach, generate faith and confidence that it can be done, the dharma can make change and lead you to that goal, or help
others, not form the ego point of view of "I am Enlightened", as you are so far away from any such relaistion with that motivation it is like
calling a flame an ice cube.
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