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Sotomayor Hearings!

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posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 09:45 AM
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Anyone else watching it???

What did they guy just start screaming about!!

interactive.foxnews.com...

The one woman, was going on and on compliment sotomayour, and a man in the back burst into outrage?

What did I miss?




posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 09:48 AM
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I have to go to work pretty soon, is there anyway we I get back I can watch everything that i've missed?

It's very interesting, but i'm politcally nerdy like that.



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 09:49 AM
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I am watching it.

However, all I heard was: BLAH BLAH BLAH. BLAH BLAH BLAH. BLAH. BLAH BLAH.

I hit rewind on the DirectTV....but I still could not undrestand it.

Im sure someone got it and we will see it surface sooner than later.


[edit on July 13th 2009 by greeneyedleo]



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 09:51 AM
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I know, I have a very eerie feeling about mrs. sotomayour... just something bad, I think the one guy who spoke saying ti So-Toe-My-Errrrr. Had the feeling too.

If someone is so outraged to be taken away by police, I want to hear what he had to say.



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 09:54 AM
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I loved everything Sessions had to say. He nailed many legit points.

He said "our legal system is at a dangerous crossroads". He is right. And her being a part of the ultimate legal position makes it even more dangerous.

However, I am thinking the rest of people listening there only heard "blah blah blah".


[edit on July 13th 2009 by greeneyedleo]



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 09:56 AM
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lol, It is frightening, I never knew that the Supreme Court was Untouchable (in the most part) by congress, which well, if congress had anything to do with it, I don'tknow what I'd be thinking right now!

They seem to be talking about her empathy alot? Did something happen that I miss, she did vote no on the Reverse Racism For the Firefighters stance.

Or is this something they go through the motions on.



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 09:56 AM
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The disruptor was asking the Senator about the abortion issue..

:shk:

don't know the exact quote, but they said the disruptor was dressed in a suit and tie.. (gotta look good when making a fool of yourself)




posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 09:57 AM
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He was yelling "What about abortion Senator?" according to Fox. (First channel I came to that was showing the hearing, before people start complaining about Fox.) I had actually forgotten that the hearing was today, and when I turned it on they were talking about the disruption.



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 09:58 AM
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Neat to know, hey he's just using his freedom of speech, but good to see people so indulged into politics instead of being boring


So know news on how I can watch this whole thing after work?



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 10:00 AM
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One thing, I do not envy sotomayour, I would be so nervous and anxious.

Sitting there, with a million people staring at you, literally judging you, and to think if she's hiding something the nervousness would be tripled!

I do not envy her at all.



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 10:02 AM
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I'd imagine it will be on YouTube or somewhere if you can't record it. Most things usually end up on there.



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by Jenna
He was yelling "What about abortion Senator?" according to Fox. (First channel I came to that was showing the hearing, before people start complaining about Fox.) I had actually forgotten that the hearing was today, and when I turned it on they were talking about the disruption.



I am watching Fox too. Dont care what anyone says about it
And I stepped out of the room and missed the explanation. Thanks!

Freedom of speech is one thing. But disruption is another thing. This pro-lifer is embarrassed and finds it ridiculous when other pro-lifers behave that way.

[edit on July 13th 2009 by greeneyedleo]



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by Jenna
reply to post by Republican08
 


I'd imagine it will be on YouTube or somewhere if you can't record it. Most things usually end up on there.


Alright, great! Well i'm off to work, hope to see how this turns out.

I figure that this isn't a job interview, just a formality right? She has already gotten the job, no?



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 10:31 AM
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I'm watching it right now and I think there is a lot of grand standing by Senators presiding over the the nomination hearing. If you ask me, much of the speech by the Senators is rather pointless and unnecessary and blatant attempts at stroking their egos. Its as though they are bickering between themselves rather than actually grilling the record of the Judge Sotomayor. I think it is a spitting contest between the Democrats and the Republicans. Now we have Chucky Schumer lambasting the record of Chief Justice Robert's record on the court. As I said earlier, this hearing is a spitting contest between the Senators, rather than what is the most important aspect of the hearings; and that is grilling the record of Sotomayor.

Lets get to the facts about Judge Sotomayor's record and if it is discovered that she rules with bias, passion, and heart; then she should be rejected plain and simple. We need judges that rule in accordance to the Constitution and not on personal whims or political affiliations. Plus her "wise latino comment," is quite disturbing and needs to be questioned and deliberated on tenaciously by the presiding Senators both Democrat and Republican. Speaking of impartiality and bias wouldn't it be great if our Senators would practice these principles at these dog and pony shows? However, that is wishful thinking because those two tenants mentioned above are thrown out the window which is sad. In closing, hopefully these hearings will be interesting with fair and open-minded deliberations.





[edit on 13-7-2009 by Jakes51]



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 10:54 AM
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I don't care either really, I just know how quick the complaints come and how easy it is for the complainers to derail a thread over the source.


And I agree, freedom of speech is great but there is a time and place for it. The middle of a confirmation hearing is neither the time nor the place.


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I hope not. I don't think a worse choice could have been made for a nominee if they tried. As I said on another thread, I'm all for women in politics and women on the bench. She, however, is one woman who doesn't need to be put into any position she can't be voted out of.

Her apparent inability to judge based on laws and facts and instead using empathy and personal experiences makes her completely unqualified to hold a position in our highest court. Supreme Court Justices aren't in place to be empathetic and go off their personal experiences. They are there to be impartial and base their judgments solely off the laws in place and the facts of each case. When they start doing otherwise is when our court system will completely break down, and that won't be a good thing for anyone.



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 06:22 PM
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The guy yelled something about "What are you going to do about the unborn?", apparently referring to abortion. That's not why i'm posting here though.

I am of the opinion that Sonia Sotomayor, and others like her, are a huge threat to the existance of America. It's not personally her, she's just been indoctrinated by ultra socially-liberal professors and students at the schools she has attended. These people hate the American way of life, they disregard whites, and they absolutely hate any opinion that differs to their own. Much of this "news" that you see on television is manipulated by these people for the purposes of steering the population to their own ends. This is quite evident if you even bring up the fact that you own a weapon around a group of liberals. Half will stand aghast, while the others will viciously verbally abuse you. This is dangerous people. Firearms are what made America free, they're what makes you, and I, and the black guy down the road equals. Not laws, not courts, not the racialist conspiracy known as Affirmative Action. It's firearms. It's what the British wanted to take from us to keep us pacified. They're what ever despot and dictator immediatly strips it's citizens of the right to own in order to consolidate absolute power, and many Americans are for that right being stripped. This is a vast conspiracy, incorporating racism and bigotry. They mock the Christians, which I am not one of, but I do respect. While touting Islam as some sort of downtrodden, misunderstood great hope. All the while claiming to be true atheists. The purpose of this is to get the populous conditioned for what they call "multi-culturalism". Well I have news, America has it's own culture independent of anything any immigrant brings in. It's not these peoples fault, they've been taught to believe such things from "media" outlets such as huffington post and other various partisan shells that constantly pump the masses for of disinformation. Sonia Sotomayor is the latest incarnation of this agenda, and it will only snowball and gain speed from here. I'm not sure what America will be like in 10 years, but I can assure you. It's going to be very, very different. And this woman is only one of the indicators of the new order. The masses have had their minds turned to mush by ipods, facebook, myspace, American Idol(more like American Idle), and "So you think you can dance".

There is something nefarious afoot, and it will be too late to do anything about it once the curtain falls.



posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 09:00 AM
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The current exchange between Patrick Leahy and Sotomayor is maddening. First he brings up her famous quote and completely changes it. Leaving out the "white men" portion and changing "better conclusion" to "a wise decision". Second, Sotomayor's response is given as if she said what Leahy quotes her as saying, which is incorrect. She claims that "other people" think she said something else, but I'm looking at the quote right here in front of me.

www.nytimes.com...

“I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life,” said Judge Sotomayor, who is now considered to be near the top of President Obama’s list of potential Supreme Court nominees.


I really hope the Republicans jump on this and get her to explain why she believes her skin color would lead her to inherently better conclusions than that of people with white skin.

EDIT: Why is this buried in the conspiracy forums? What about this is conspiracy?

[edit on 14-7-2009 by Wimbly]



posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 11:39 AM
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Judge Sotomayor frankly makes me nervous. First up, there's the now-infamous "wise Latina" quote:


“I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life”


I have a sort of personal 'litmus test' for things that are allegedly racist...try running the same statement past an audience, after editing it to refer to a group on the opposite side of the racial / cultural fence, and see how it sounds. Can you imagine the blood-spitting outrage if someone (perhaps Senator Robert Byrd, D-W. Va) said "I would hope that a smart White man with the richness of his experience would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a Latina woman who hasn't lived that life" ? Regardless of how she intended her words to be interpreted, they're rather unsettling...at the very least, she should have, in my opinion, confessed to making a very poor word choice...then all she has to do is come up with an explanation for making a similarly bad word choice repeatedly over the span of several years.

I also don't really give a rat's posterior about her 'empathy'. A Supreme Court Justice's job is to interpret the law. Not to create law out of whole cloth, and not to spin new laws out of a mixture of emotion and agenda. Empathy is 'way down my personal list of 'things that make great Justices'...it's on the list, but it comes in far behind legal scholarship and the ability to communicate clearly (see "wise Latina" above).

And, just to really set myself up for a flaming of Olympian proportions, contrary to the massive media hype, she's not the first Hispanic Justice (that honor goes to Associate Justice Benjamen N. Cardozo, who served from 1932 to 1938), and she's obviously not the first woman to sit on the High Court (that would be a charming lady by the name of Sandra Day O'Connor, fellow Arizonan, who served from 1981 to 2006).

Despite my misgivings, she's more than likely headed for confirmation, and I can only hope that I'm wrong in my concerns.

[edit on 14-7-2009 by Brother Stormhammer]



posted on Jul, 15 2009 @ 10:02 AM
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Sotomayor is being grilled by Coburn right now regarding the 2nd amendment and if she believes, her opinion and interpretation of the Constitution, that we have the RIGHT to defend ourselves with guns.

And she can NOT answer this.

She was told: The American people want to know: Do we have the right to protect ourself under the 2nd amendment.

She can not answer it straightforward.

This woman is absolutely frightening. And sometimes the lack of an answer is more telling than an actual answer.

[edit on July 15th 2009 by greeneyedleo]



posted on Jul, 15 2009 @ 03:18 PM
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I watched yesterdays I didn't know there was another one today, hmm i'll youtube it.

Did you catch her fake cough, and water trick, to extend time to make up an answer, while continously touching her nose.
Such a lie maneuvour.



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