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Originally posted by andy1033
Absolute power corrupts. As the saying goes, and it sure does.
Personally i think the quality of life thing is the only thing that drives depopulation. I have no problem with people being sterilised.
The way i look at it, is that it is better to stop people being born, or conceived than to kill them when they are alive and being a human being trying to exist.
Sterilising people is the lesser of two evils. These people are all about power and when you get into these positions you think you know it all. Know it alls are the worst thing for the human race, as they are the ones that get into power normally, and want to run everyones lifes.
[edit on 7/13/2009 by andy1033]
Originally posted by antonia
North Americans waste enough food in two days to feed some third-world populations for a month. Food and Water is plentiful, it's is mismanagement of these resources that is the problem.
Originally posted by nenothtu
Are you volunteering to be the first in line, then?
Originally posted by WhatTheory
This guy is a total fascist/marxist and it further supports the case of Obama being a marxist/fascist. ...
Originally posted by JScytale
Originally posted by audas
fascist / Marxist state
I wish there was a shot that cured ignorance.
Fascists believe that nations and/or races are in perpetual conflict whereby only the strong can survive by being healthy, vital, and by asserting themselves in conflict against the weak. Fascists advocate the creation of a single-party state. Fascist governments forbid and suppress criticism and opposition to the government and the fascist movement. Fascism opposes class conflict, blames capitalist liberal democracies for its creation and communists for exploiting the concept. Fascism is much defined by what it opposes, what scholars call the fascist negations - its opposition to individualism, rationalism, liberalism, conservatism and communism. 
Marxism is the political philosophy and practice derived from the works of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, though the name "Marxism" has been used by many with political perspectives those men would likely reject. Marxism is a political-economic theory that presents a materialist conception of history, a non-capitalist vision of capitalism and other types of society, and a non-religious view of human liberation. Closely related to the ideology of communism. At its core, Marxism holds a critical analysis of capitalism and a theory of social change. The original Marxian vision consisted of three complementary parts, each of which is hard to separate from the other two:
1. The dialectical and materialist conception of history. Marx interpreted the history of any society as being the result of conflicts within society, including those between social classes (e.g., bourgeoisie and proletariat) and between the development of the forces of production (technology, the labor force, etc.) and the relations of production (institutions). Accordingly, a society's possible futures are interpreted in terms of these conflicts.
2. The critique of capitalism. Capitalism is seen as a society in which a small minority of the population (the bourgeoisie or capitalists) dominates and exploits the vast majority (the working class or proletariat). In Marx's labor theory of value, workers typically have no choice but produce more value and more output than is necessary to pay the cost of their reproduction as people in society over time. They do this under conditions that they do not control, i.e., under the direction of the supervisors and threatened by unemployment or poverty the rather than following democratic decision-making, and thus give the surplus-product to the owners, the bourgeoisie. The capitalists then use this surplus (also called surplus value) to accumulate more wealth and power for themselves. Often, this accumulation goes 'too far', causing an economic crisis.
3. The theory of revolution. In Marx's conception, workers under capitalism are alienated since they do not control a major portion of their day (the working-day) and must follow orders, producing goods or services that they do not own and cannot choose to avoid producing. They are alienated from their own true selves as members of society and from nature. The solution -- which Marx saw as existing below the surface of actual bourgeois society -- was for workers to unite in labor union and political parties, to take political and economic power away from the bourgeoisie. In fact, he saw this kind of collective self-liberation as the only true liberation of the working class.
Originally posted by ShiftTrio
reply to post by WhatTheory
They are not absolute opposites but they vary in base theories. While Marxism, did not turn out the way they planned, Marxism was meant for the people to own, not the Haves and the Have nots.
Now fascism, is Nazi Germany, totalitarian leadership, that oppresses other views and opposition by force. The key word by force is what makes a true fascist.
This is the absolute meaning of these terms. Now, do people blur them for there own agendas , yep.. .. but these are dictionary meanings. Just cause you want to call a orange an apple, does not change its actual meaning. (not saying you, just saying in general)
Originally posted by audas
Sorry - you are wrong
Originally posted by _damon
It is not unbelievable, it is a good thing, hope it happens. Why? Oh yeah, i know, you want your ******* freedom? You want to do what you want coz it is your right to act suicidal? No sorry, there are people in this world that think big and in long term, and humanity must be regulated. Dislike it? I dont care, i hope it is gonna happen and it seems it is coming slowly. You thought you had total freedom, the right to raise children as much as you want and to **** and being ****** anywhere anytime, spreading sin here and there without giving a ****? No, sorry, it is totally ridiculous and unconscious. Mass sterilization and surviving of the species or mass reproduction and species extinction? Nothing will be done softly, and we deserve it, it is a cause of our unconscious behaviour.