Obama - "continent of his birth" quote

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posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 06:04 PM
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reply to post by -NewSense-
 


While I think this current story about President Obama is very weak evidence at best, I see the Constitution perhaps differently than you. Either one of us might be off-base.......


or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution,


Or a citizen of the United States, AT THE TIME of the Adoption of this Constitution.....

In other words, either born in the United States, or a citizen at the time the Constitution was adopted. Once the Constitution WAS adopted, Presidential candidates had to be natural born. Of course, even THAT had another amendment to clarify what that means -- natural born.

I don't think it means merely being a citizen qualifies.




posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 06:06 PM
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Originally posted by -NewSense-
Wow, calm down there guy..

I'm calm but your ignorance is astounding.



I gave you a direct quote from the constitution that proves his eligibility.

That's just it. You have not and you keep embarrassing yourself by thinking otherwise.
The Constitutional requirements prove my point and is basic knowledge yet somehow you don't understand it.


I see you've made it a long way with that type of attitude.

I have, thanks!



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 06:10 PM
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And yet he remains president.. yawn. You're missing the big picture here. These points that you bring up are really becoming redundant and have been brought up time and time again.. in court, with professionals that specialize in this sort of thing. And yet, he remains president..



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by WhatTheory

Originally posted by aero56
He IS a US citizen..........geez...............his mother was a US citizen, he automatically is a US citizen............

Oh good grief!

Of course I am talking about him being a natural born citizen.


Instead of making moot and minuscule points, try commenting on the topic at hand next time.


How about this one then, Barack was my neighbor when I lived in Hawaii........



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by TaintedJustice
just a few

Wow, you can copy and paste.


Again, you are NOT making a point nor have you answered my question in the previous reply to you.

Again, disagreeing with Obama's policies and ideology does NOT mean I am attacking Obama personally. So using your awesome logic, I must agree with Obama or I am a racist.


Is that the lame point you are trying to make.
Good grief!



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 06:15 PM
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You could show them a video of Obama being born in a Hawaiian hosptial and they will say it was forged.

it doesnt matter. Just don't feed the trolls.



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 06:15 PM
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Originally posted by -NewSense-
And yet he remains president.. yawn. You're missing the big picture here. These points that you bring up are really becoming redundant and have been brought up time and time again.. in court, with professionals that specialize in this sort of thing. And yet, he remains president..

So what? That proves nothing. The courts really have not looked at anything because they refuse to look at the evidence and keep dismissing the cases. Besides, the courst used to say slavery was ok so the courts are not always correct right?

The party that the President belongs to is responsible for making sure he is eligable. Knowing the Demorats, I have no confidence that they even looked into the issue because there only concern was to win the election at any costs.



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by aero56
How about this one then, Barack was my neighbor when I lived in Hawaii........

Oh sweet Jesus, where to begin.


First, I don't believe you. Where is your proof?

Secondly, unless you were standing there in the hospital next to Obama's mother when he was born, your point is moot. A neighbor, wow. That just proves he lived there at one time which we already knew and that is not in question.



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 06:20 PM
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Lol I bet I could crack open a coconut with your skull. I'm done here. Good luck with..whatever it is you're trying to accomplish.



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by nixie_nox
You could show them a video of Obama being born in a Hawaiian hosptial and they will say it was forged.

This is where you and those like you really show your ignorance. Most of us who are suspicious of Obama being a natural born citizen would be perfectly satisfied if he would produce his original birth certificate. He refuses to do so which is why people are suspicious. Why would he not want to show this like every other President has done unless he has something to hide. This is a Constitutional requirement and yet he refuses to comply.


it doesnt matter. Just don't feed the trolls.

Yeah, I'm sure you believe anyone who disagrees with you is a troll.

Do you even know what a troll is because it's apparent you do not.


You do realize this is a conspiracy site right?
I guess in your eyes, all the people who believe in UFO's must be trolls also right?



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 06:26 PM
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Originally posted by -NewSense-
Lol I bet I could crack open a coconut with your skull. I'm done here. Good luck with..whatever it is you're trying to accomplish.

Wow, you ignore proof that you were wrong and run.
Now that is hard headed.

Look, you were proven wrong about the Constitution requirement of Presidents so take your lumps like a man please.



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 06:33 PM
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Well, I certainly believe he was born on Hawaii. Many seem to think all news media are in some conspiracy to not check that out. I guess that's what to expect from a conspiracy forum... Not even Fox news has touched this story though, and why? Because it's crap.

Even if he was born in Kenya as some conspiracists suggest, would it matter?

The law isn't crystal clear about this and he's still a great president!!



[edit on 13-7-2009 by Shades1035]



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 06:40 PM
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Do you really want Biden as President? Hillary as VP?



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 06:42 PM
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I wish the source were a little more credible because I believe it's true -- I just don't think this article PROVES it.

For example, there is an entire group of Bedouins that also claim him as their own flesh and blood.

Then of course are the Messiah claims -- that use his Arab ancestry as their proof.

My point being is that if we believe the word of everyone that says Obama is their ancestor -- he would be spread out all over the map. Ironically, nowhere in the US however.



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by Shades1035

Even if he was born in Kenya as some conspiracists suggest, would it matter?

The law isn't crystal clear about this and he's still a great president!!


Natural born citizen is pretty easily defined.
What parameters are you using to define 'great'?



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 06:46 PM
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Hillary would not be the VP. Nancy Pelosi would be.

Not that that's any better, but it is the actual chain of command.



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 06:47 PM
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Originally posted by WhatTheory

Originally posted by nixie_nox
You could show them a video of Obama being born in a Hawaiian hosptial and they will say it was forged.

This is where you and those like you really show your ignorance. Most of us who are suspicious of Obama being a natural born citizen would be perfectly satisfied if he would produce his original birth certificate. He refuses to do so which is why people are suspicious. Why would he not want to show this like every other President has done unless he has something to hide. This is a Constitutional requirement and yet he refuses to comply.


it doesnt matter. Just don't feed the trolls.

Yeah, I'm sure you believe anyone who disagrees with you is a troll.

Do you even know what a troll is because it's apparent you do not.


You do realize this is a conspiracy site right?
I guess in your eyes, all the people who believe in UFO's must be trolls also right?


Even conspiracy theorists need facts. And some website written by who knows who is hardly evidence.

if your willing to take whatever you can find as evidence on the web, just shows desperation.

Here is America's finest news source:

Obama Axes Pentagon Plan to build Billion Dollar Tank in Shape of Dragon

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Its on the internet, so it must be true!



I think this site says it best:

www.politifact.com...



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 06:53 PM
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Originally posted by lpowell0627

Originally posted by Shades1035

Even if he was born in Kenya as some conspiracists suggest, would it matter?

The law isn't crystal clear about this and he's still a great president!!


Natural born citizen is pretty easily defined.
What parameters are you using to define 'great'?



Well, why wouldn't Fox news do a story about this if there was something to it? They trash-talk him for everything.


I think he's great in comparence to Bush the deceiver, who attacked Iraq based on lies. No WMD's and no ties to Al Qaida. Some sources suggests around 800´000 civilians dead and 25% of the population became refugees.. not to mention all the thousands of US troops dead and wounded...

I also think he's great because he's introducing a health care system that is not purely based on greed to the US. US was the only western country that did not have one. Watch Sicko by Michael Moore, if you haven't.

And lastly, I think generally his judgement on things are a lot better than Bush or McCain.......



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 07:04 PM
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Originally posted by js331975
Do you really want Biden as President? Hillary as VP?


Actually, WHEN the Constitutionally illegal, fraudulent de facto Commander in Chief is exposed (hopefully by the current lawsuit by the Army Major that refuses to obey unlawful orders), Biden will be out too... As co-conspirator.

Incidentally, when I HEARD the quote (not a translation, straight from the horse's, as... err, mouth), I thought ol' Barry was taking a page from his VP's playbook... What a monumental gaffe!

Continuity of Government provides that the Speaker of the House is next in line... I don't think ANYBODY wants to see that happen...

Unfortunately, the Articles of Impeachment must be satisfied, as Mr. Soetero has already been sworn into office.

Respect the Office, not the man.

Just as a side, this would be a precedent in US History only as far as the office of POTUS is concerned... Senator Albert Gallatin of PA was impeached for the very reason Soetero will be impeached. Nevermind the man, or his actions... Rules are rules, and the Constitution must be upheld, or our Republic shall be further tarnished!

en.wikipedia.org...

God have mercy on this country when the truth sets us free... Knee jerk race riots and disorder anyone???

[edit on 13/7/09 by cbianchi513]





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