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reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 03:05 PM by Janitor From Mars

reply to post by cheneysshotgun

While we're at it, why don't we ask George H.W Bush for a legitimate birth certificate? Wasn't he born as George Scherff in Germany?

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 03:06 PM by tyranny22

reply to post by cheneysshotgun

LOL.

You need to take those "facts" of yours and present them to the Supreme Court and see what happens.

I'm not the one that in denial. The man is President. You don't have to accept it, but you can't change it.

[edit on 13-7-2009 by tyranny22]

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 03:15 PM by cheneysshotgun

Originally posted by tyranny22
reply to post by cheneysshotgun

Long form or not I still believe that nothing is going to satisfy your need for "evidence" other than being at his birth in person. If you take that as a personal attack then so be it. I am truly sorry.

You keep referring to these facts and questions, but I've seen no valid points raised.

It is what it is, chief. You can believe whatever you wish about me. That still doesn't change the fact that you attack the person instead of answer the questions at hand. I've provided a few facts on the legitimacy of the provided COLB. Those are my only issues and I can't force you to read though to find them. So there you sit, still attacking the person instead of the issues.

It is not a valid birth certificate. Period. Once cleared up, I will be glad redact my demands. But that won't happen, so I'll continue to request that it be cleared up, seeing as how I'm a voting American citizen who believes in upholding the Constitution as the supreme law of the land.

I'll repeat for you, but I'm sure you'll ignore them again.

The COLB looks like it was printed yesterday. It does not look original or even a notaried certification from the state of Hawaii. A COLB is not a long form birth certificate and would not be a "2nd form of ID" or proof of citizenship. He ran for the highest office of the land, and provided a questionable document of citizenship.

Long form and I'm done. Don't believe me? IDGAS.

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 03:37 PM by Janitor From Mars

The way I see it, the more that people dwell on the birth certificate stuff, the more we lose sight of what's really important.

It's a valuable distraction that keeps our eyes off the ball long enough for the powers that were to slip in even more poison to the toxic stew.

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 03:51 PM by cooler

i dont understand why doesnt obamarama just show us the long birth doco ?
it just looks like he is hiding some thing.
& untill the long birth doco is made public then i have to remain skeptical as to obamarama`s history.
obamarama groupys = 0
obamarama skeptics = 10

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 04:05 PM by maybereal11

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by whatukno
www.factcheck.org...

Bud ... you've already been shown that's a forgery. The forger (Jay McKinnon) admitted it. AND Factcheck is run by Annenberg. Obama was on their board and they are big Obama $$ sponsors.

www.freerepublic.com...
Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fake Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign,

Whoa..."simliar to" not the actual certificate that President Obama produced? Geez Flyers the way you are repeatedly claiming this particular piece of BS I thought it must be true!

This is Free Republic for gods sake...ya know..the ones that print almost anything anti-obama and even they are saying that this guy only created a hoax certificate which in their opinion is SIMILAR...NOT THE ACTUAL CERTIFICATE OBAMA PRODUCED.

Lets look to another Anti-Obama site maybe they will clear it up...
Israeli Insider
web.israelinsider.com...
Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of palpably fake Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign

Again "Similar to" but NO he did not forge Obama's Birth Certificate for him.

* Here is my question to you Flyers...if the Israeli Insider and the Free Republic weren't comfortable lying and saying this man forged President Obama's Birth Certificate for him...Why are you?

Deny ignorance everyone.

[edit on 13-7-2009 by maybereal11]

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 04:20 PM by maybereal11

From my earlier post
...case in point above.

Originally posted by maybereal11

They have instead repeatedly twisted and distorted facts as well as outright lied to continue making the case.

There are many posters here who are familiar to me who repeat things that have been clearly and decisively shown to be false on other threads they were active in.

Some of them I have caught editing qoutes they lift from sources to suit their position.

All evidence to the contrary that folks post here is easily debunked...and has been debunked...and when it is debunked..those posters turn to personal attacks or silently slink away to post on some other thread until their BS is challenged again.

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 04:21 PM by 2012DragonSlayer

even though the evidence clearly indicates he was born in Kenya, I think where he was born is not the issue. What he did was renounce his US citizenry when he returned to Indonesia as a young man. He reclaimed his citizenry there and traveled as a Muslim to Pakistan. He could NOT have visited there as an American and could not retain both legally. When he returned to the US it was as a citizen of Indonesia. This was overlooked because he never formally renounced his citizenry HERE but legally he was no longer a Native of the USA.
Everyone else is focusing on where he was born but there is a loophole in the requirements that state a child of a US citizen is a considered natural born citizen regardless of where they are born PROVIDED that they return to the US by their 23rd birthday.
He did that..but then he left on his own accord. That automatically cost him his natural born status and made him simply a naturalized citizen....also, the Americans for Freedom of Information has released copies of President Obama’s college transcripts from Occidental College. the transcript indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate at the school. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship. This document would seem to provide the smoking.... oh barry! thought you were so smart... didnt you

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 04:34 PM by WhatTheory

Originally posted by maybereal11
President Obama was born where he said he was and provided more evidence than any presidential candidate in history.

Sorry, but I just had to laugh.

What planet are you living on?

What evidence besides some dubious certificate of live birth instead of the actual birth certificate?
You do realize that anyone can get this document Obama says is proof from Hawaii without actually being born there right?

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 04:36 PM by WhatTheory

Originally posted by tyranny22
Case solved:

Here's the birth certificate.

Umm....that is NOT a birth certificate. That is a certificate of live birth.

Once you learn the difference instead of spewing liberal talking points, you might actually make sense and sound smart.

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 04:40 PM by WhatTheory

Originally posted by aero56
He IS a US citizen..........geez...............his mother was a US citizen, he automatically is a US citizen............

Oh good grief!

Of course I am talking about him being a natural born citizen.

Instead of making moot and minuscule points, try commenting on the topic at hand next time.

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 04:44 PM by andrewh7

Originally posted by WhatTheory
This is eye opening to say the least.
A article refers to Obama's visit to the Continent of Africa as his continent of birth.

Here is the link and quote:
ModernGhana

For Ghana, Obama's visit will be a celebration of another milestone in African history as it hosts the first-ever African-American President on this presidential visit to the continent of his birth.

Bold is my emphasis.

IMO, this is just further evidence that Obama is NOT a legal U.S. citizen.

The most compelling story is the one about Obama admitting to being a foreign exchange student from Indonesia in order to get into college. Either he lied to the college or he is lying to us.

[edit on 7/13/2009 by WhatTheory]

So, a poorly written article by an obscure foreign newspaper is damning evidence? Please tell me this is a joke. Because if you intended your claim to be taken seriously, that's really pathetic.

Next, you'll be citing comments on your own blog website written by you as evidence.

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 04:49 PM by verastyle

Heh people argue over the most mundane stuff now-a-days huh? It could mean he was born there it could mean where all of our birthplace's were hence the nickname Motherland. but in the end does it matter? Should where he popped out his mom really matter? It's such a prejudice law, same as hate crime laws. Open ya eyes. Don't condemn a man for something he had no choice in deciding on.

And go to whatukno's thread if you want all the proof you claim to seek.

[edit on 13-7-2009 by verastyle]

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 04:50 PM by pastry

I would say my continent of birth is Europe because that is where all my ancestry is from.

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 04:50 PM by andrewh7

Originally posted by WhatTheory

Originally posted by tyranny22
Case solved:

Here's the birth certificate.

Umm....that is NOT a birth certificate. That is a certificate of live birth.
Once you learn the difference instead of spewing liberal talking points, you might actually make sense and sound smart.

So, you believe a conspiracy began in the 1960s with two birth announcements in Hawaii's largest newspapers stating his birth with his parents' names and his address. So, in addition to forging his birth certificate and paying off Hawaii government officials, the conspirators went back in time to place these birth announcements, knowing that those two papers would be added to the archives of every major university in the country, thereby making their listing impossible to forge decades later.

So, you are the one who "makes sense" and "sounds smart?" I think you need to get a second opinion. You're crazy.

The birth announcements are genuine and, since they carry no legal or practical significance on there own, there would be absolutely no incentive to publish false birth announcements in multiple papers in the 1960s for a baby who would grow up in poverty.

[edit on 13-7-2009 by andrewh7]

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 05:02 PM by andrewh7

Originally posted by cheneysshotgun

Originally posted by tyranny22
reply to post by cheneysshotgun

Long form or not I still believe that nothing is going to satisfy your need for "evidence" other than being at his birth in person. If you take that as a personal attack then so be it. I am truly sorry.

You keep referring to these facts and questions, but I've seen no valid points raised.

It is what it is, chief. You can believe whatever you wish about me. That still doesn't change the fact that you attack the person instead of answer the questions at hand. I've provided a few facts on the legitimacy of the provided COLB. Those are my only issues and I can't force you to read though to find them. So there you sit, still attacking the person instead of the issues.

It is not a valid birth certificate. Period. Once cleared up, I will be glad redact my demands. But that won't happen, so I'll continue to request that it be cleared up, seeing as how I'm a voting American citizen who believes in upholding the Constitution as the supreme law of the land.

I'll repeat for you, but I'm sure you'll ignore them again.

The COLB looks like it was printed yesterday. It does not look original or even a notaried certification from the state of Hawaii. A COLB is not a long form birth certificate and would not be a "2nd form of ID" or proof of citizenship. He ran for the highest office of the land, and provided a questionable document of citizenship.

Long form and I'm done. Don't believe me? IDGAS.

You're assuming that you hold some small amount of leverage by refusing to "redact your demands." If that is the case, what negatives things will happen if you never "redact your demands?" That's right - absolutely nothing. No one knows who you are, let alone cares what you think about any particular issue. Your claim is absurd. The maximum amount of time you'll be continuing to ramble on about it nonetheless is eight years.

In your ideal world, Obama would not be president and the only alternative would be a man who was born in Panama. So, if you were actually interested in a president that you are certain was born on US soil, you'd be out of luck either way. Oops.

Obama was born in Hawaii and won the election by a landslide. You lost. Deal with it.

[edit on 13-7-2009 by andrewh7]

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 05:14 PM by andrewh7

Originally posted by Alxandro
I get your point but what can be discussed that hasn't been discussed already.

Kind of a bummer when he can make all this go away by physically producing a birth cert, but wont or can't.
Plain and simple.

Kind of a bummer that you think "all this" matters to anyone, especially the president of the united states. Do you think Obama is kept awake at night worrying about ATS forum comments? I doubt he's ever even heard of this website.

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 05:18 PM by Mr_Sushkov

Obama is a US citizen, stop it please

Rawr

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 05:23 PM by WhatTheory

Originally posted by andrewh7
So, a poorly written article by an obscure foreign newspaper is damning evidence? Please tell me this is a joke. Because if you intended your claim to be taken seriously, that's really pathetic.

Now I see why you are so confused. You think this is the only piece of the puzzle. Sorry, but there are many other large pieces of the puzzle along with this small piece which must be put together to form the big picture. The big picture being Obama is not a natural born citizen.