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reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 02:02 PM by Skallagrimsson

Originally posted by SaturnFX

Pic2: Raised seal (quite hard to photoshop that in)

Yes, but it's the easiest thing to make (for those in the analog world). A printer and an embossing iron is all it takes.

Why is the certificate not signed, and why is there no name on the registrar?
To me this is the easiest kind of fakery (undergraduate kindergarden). A good forger, would at least try to fake a name and a signature.....

Fake passports and fake money has been around since the beginning of time, long before Photoshop was ever thought of

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 02:03 PM by cheneysshotgun

reply to post by antonia

When will you regret giving up? At what point?

There are millions who would call you lazy.

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 02:05 PM by tyranny22

reply to post by cheneysshotgun

I'm quite certain that if a full form were released, it still wouldn't be enough "evidence" for you. What you want is a time machine. It seems only first hand confirmation is about the only thing that's going to convince you.

There are a number of reasons a person wouldn't want the full form released.

Care to give me your social security number? I promise I won't misuse it in anyway, shape or form.

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 02:09 PM by gimme_some_truth

Because some journalist refers to Africa as Obamas continent of birth you think that is true?

I could say that Mars is his planet of birth....Does that make it true? I don't think so....

This is just an article with a quote by some guy who clearly knows not of what he talks about....

With all due respect I just do not get how this is supposed to be evidence at all. Some random journalist has a quote like that so it must be true?

Well here is my quote.... Barrack Obama was born on mars....That must be true too.

Seriously though, There is nothing here but some foreign press agent making an incorrect statement......

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 02:11 PM by tyranny22

Originally posted by Skallagrimsson

Originally posted by SaturnFX

Pic2: Raised seal (quite hard to photoshop that in)

A good forger, would at least try to fake a name and a signature.....

You said it all right there. A good forger would I have no doubt.

Neither my birth certificate nor my marriage certificate was signed by the appropriate parties. Does that void my citizenship? Apparently only if I'm going to run for president. Does that void my marriage? Good luck to me in divorce court if I ever try to play that card.

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 02:12 PM by cheneysshotgun

reply to post by tyranny22

You are further empowering my point. I name facts, legitimate questions, and where do you go? Attack the person. You are now in what we call denial.

Welcome to the bottom floor.

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 02:16 PM by Victoria 1

If the debate was over a Republican President and lets say.... Bush didn't produce a birth certificate, I am sure the media and all the libs would be making a HUGEEEEEE deal out of this. Since it is a liberal guy in office it is all on the hush hush because the media is so one sided. Rebulicans ask for proof and obama will never show it. Maybe he doesn't have something to hide, who knows. I think he just likes the fact that he could not show it and get away with it. He probably laughed at it and at the power he has over all these blind people.

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 02:18 PM by jd140

A birth certificate has a few things on it that is missing on what was given to us and is circulating over the internet as his birth certificate.

What President has showed us states that it is a certification of birth. A certification of birth and a certificate of birth is completely differant.

Here is a side by side comparison of President Obama's certification and a certificate of live birth (birth certificate).

4.bp.blogspot.com...

edit to add- Both are from Hawaii and the real birth certificate is dated two years older than the 2008 regeneration of a 1961 document.

[edit on 13-7-2009 by jd140]

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 02:30 PM by antonia

Originally posted by cheneysshotgun
reply to post by antonia

When will you regret giving up? At what point?

There are millions who would call you lazy.

It's not "giving up". It is called choosing your battles. There is no point in arguing the Birth Certificate. You will never get clarification on the issue. Your point of view is so skewed at this point it won't matter if it's proven. You still won't believe it.

I'd rather put my energy into something productive. That's not being lazy, that's being pragmatic.

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 02:32 PM by Skallagrimsson

Originally posted by tyranny22

Originally posted by Skallagrimsson

Originally posted by SaturnFX

Pic2: Raised seal (quite hard to photoshop that in)

A good forger, would at least try to fake a name and a signature.....

You said it all right there. A good forger would I have no doubt.

Neither my birth certificate nor my marriage certificate was signed by the appropriate parties. Does that void my citizenship? Apparently only if I'm going to run for president. Does that void my marriage? Good luck to me in divorce court if I ever try to play that card.

What point is there with a unsigned, printed piece of paper?
It can be forged by kids, and proves nada/nothing

Is this world so stupid that a simple unsigned DIY-document is proof enough to get a drivers licence, passport, bank account and a loan and everything????

...and even become president in a country that specificly states in it's constitutuion that he has to be a natural born citicen

[edit on 13-7-2009 by Skallagrimsson]

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 02:33 PM by piddles

Originally posted by WhatTheory
This is eye opening to say the least.
A article refers to Obama's visit to the Continent of Africa as his continent of birth.

Here is the link and quote:
ModernGhana

For Ghana, Obama's visit will be a celebration of another milestone in African history as it hosts the first-ever African-American President on this presidential visit to the continent of his birth.

Bold is my emphasis.

IMO, this is just further evidence that Obama is NOT a legal U.S. citizen.

The most compelling story is the one about Obama admitting to being a foreign exchange student from Indonesia in order to get into college. Either he lied to the college or he is lying to us.

[edit on 7/13/2009 by WhatTheory]

People in Ghana=don't speak English that well

thus

continent of his birth=probably noting that all black people are from africa

to

associate Ghana with Obama further/make the author feel close to obama

you

read too deep

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 02:48 PM by SaturnFX

Simply put, it doesnt matter how much evidence you put in front of a conspiracy theorists, it wont be enough
Actually, the mentality of a conspiracy theorists is the more evidence you put in front of them, the more they demand they are right...especially if they have time or money involved.

It quickly becomes a religion.

So, meh...doesnt really matter what belief system is, the legal requirements were satisfied by the courts, and thats that. Conspiracy theorists can continue believing he is from africa, syberia, or the moon till the cows come home...in the end, it effects nothing in particular.

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 02:50 PM by tyranny22

reply to post by cheneysshotgun

Social security number?

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 02:54 PM by aero56

Originally posted by WhatTheory
This is eye opening to say the least.
A article refers to Obama's visit to the Continent of Africa as his continent of birth.

Here is the link and quote:
ModernGhana

For Ghana, Obama's visit will be a celebration of another milestone in African history as it hosts the first-ever African-American President on this presidential visit to the continent of his birth.

Bold is my emphasis.

IMO, this is just further evidence that Obama is NOT a legal U.S. citizen.

The most compelling story is the one about Obama admitting to being a foreign exchange student from Indonesia in order to get into college. Either he lied to the college or he is lying to us.

[edit on 7/13/2009 by WhatTheory]

He IS a US citizen..........geez...............his mother was a US citizen, he automatically is a US citizen............

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 02:55 PM by cheneysshotgun

reply to post by antonia

If the birth certificate were legitimate, I wouldn't have a problem with it. Do I believe in the various theories about Obama? No. I don't dislike him any more than I disliked Clinton, and I'm no more politically active than any of you.

But when the Constitution gets ignored, I get mad. This is one issue that I will never give up on, regardless of whether I get labeled. The Constitution is the law of the land, if we ignore it, what does that make of this land? Can't answer? Exactly.

If I have to prove with my full birth certificate that I was born here in the USA, so should the potential President. So much corruption, glass houses, left and right.

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 02:57 PM by cheneysshotgun

reply to post by tyranny22

Still ignoring the facts and attacking the person. The SSN can be blacked out. The forgery is clearly that. Take the example BC from 1961 for instance...

But go ahead and attack the person instead, its more convenient.

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 03:01 PM by The Soothsayer

Originally posted by ravenshadow13
You're kidding, right?

Continent of his birth. As in his ancestry. As in where he came from genetically.

The mitochondria in his blood may beg to differ... according to that his ancestry is that of a Caucasian, since it is passed from mother to offspring.

But, that's just me splitting hairs.

A person's maternal ancestry can be traced using his or her mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA). The DNA in the human mitochondria is passed down by the mother unchanged. One exception, which was linked to infertility, has been shown. Additionally, some people cite paternal mtDNA transmission as invalidating mtDNA testing[2], but this is not considered problematic in scholarly population genetics studies or genetic genealogy.

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 03:01 PM by aero56

Originally posted by Fett Pinkus
reply to post by Alxandro

11 and counting

I wonder if the truth will ever come out?

To those of you skeptics. What if his place of birth is not what is being kept under lock and key? Maybe there is something else he doesn't want anyone to know. He IS a US citizen, whether born in Hawaii or Kenya. So, what else could it be?

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 03:02 PM by cheneysshotgun

reply to post by SaturnFX

This isn't a conspiracy theory. A legitimate signed notarized birth certificate would be nice. Period. Once that is provided I'll be fine with it. All other evidence is hearsay once a legitimate birth certificate is provided.

This isn't about conspiracy theories. It is about following the Constitution.

reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 03:04 PM by Janitor From Mars

I think he meant Africa as the birthplace of mankind in general.

Still, it's nice to see people take things out of context as always. Gotta keep the fear agenda going somehow.