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Obama - "continent of his birth" quote

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posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 05:03 AM
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Originally posted by Mak Manto reply to post by Bunken Drum
 
Well, Bunken, who did you vote for?
To my shame, I voted Labour. Twice. But what choice did I have? Even tho Blair was proved a puppet, I fully remember what the Conservatives did to this country (UK) & I was afraid that if I didn't vote Labour, ie support the LibDems or some minor party, the Conservatives might win. Seems I needn't have bothered worrying; we got conservatives anyway, just with a small 'C'.
@the recent by-election & Euro Parliament election, I voted LibDem & Green. I'm done with this 2 party fear-based arse: I'm certain that the LibDems would prove to be the same wanchors as the rest, but if we @least get some Proportional Representation (their policy), there's the possibility of representative government in the future.
So I'll be voting LibDem @the next general election, not because I believe in them, but because they're the only credible alternative to our current bunch of f#ing criminals &, whilst I'd rather not take part in the sham of so-called democracy @all, it is after all the only power we ordinary people have, unless we're ready for chaos, which I'd rather avoid.
Btw, I'm not an American, in case that isn't already obvious.




posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 06:13 AM
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Originally posted by WhatTheory reply to post by Bunken Drum
 
Since you are from Europe and NOT America, frankly, I don't give a rats a$$ what you believe or think regarding our President and Messiah, Obama the Great.
Yeah, put your fingers in your ears & chant "Holy Market! Holy Market! Holy Market!" as loud as you can. Blame 'socialism' whilst your POTUS uses Cap & Trade to pay your debts.
Whilst you're @it, remember that whilst the UK's PTB butt-snorkeling govt have supported US military action to prop up the US$, it is only because we have not only paid off our debt to the USA from WW2, but have become the worlds 4th largest holder of US$ reserves.
Yes, this tiny group of islands could single handedly crash the US economy down to subsistance farming.
What could y'all do about it? Invade us like Iraq? Er... you'll find that the rest of the world wouldn't like having Lloyds of London or the Royal Bank of Scotland threatened & thus nobody would lend y'all the money for such a military action.
Actually, how can y'all afford to be in Iraq now? Oh right, I forgot, China lent you just enough rope to hang yourselves.
Laugh away... & each time you do whilst buying something thats more expensive than the last time, remember that you're just paying the debts your neo-cons saddled you with.
Oh yeah, LMAO alright! Y'all will never get out from under this debt. The only option will be dissolution of the Union or a new global paradigm to let you off the hook. Guess which would be best for the rich; you'll be predicting your future.



posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 06:15 AM
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I dont see why people are still protecting the OBAMANATION. Even IF this is all a bunch of crap and he is a legal citizen (which i firmly believe he is, if he isn't why doesn't he show us his real and original birth certificate and SS card) look at what he has done and is doing to the country. I think he should be taken out of office ASAP



posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 06:19 AM
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Originally posted by max.is.awake
Let it go and move on to another conspiracy or ufo sighting. Whether or not he is a natural-born citizen of the US is a moot point now. Look at what he has done so far: appointed how many people to their political positions? spent how much money giving us a deficit of how much? he was the first what to become POTUS? Follow me? If Obama is proven to not be eligible to be POTUS then everyone he appointed would need to be ousted and the new POTUS would have to through the whole rigamorole again, Afro-Americans would riot, and WHO in their right mind would want walk into this economic crisis NOW? It was bad enough when Obama was selected to be POTUS by the man behind the curtian of deceit. Its over guys. Done. Obama is POTUS will remain POTUS no matter how you put a spin on remarks he has made or will make. Check, please. Time to leave. No flag for this thread, no offense intended.


This attitude, and ones like it, past and present, are precisely the lack of vigilence and object apathy that have allowed the transition of this Republic to the fascist state it has become... Saying that the point is moot simply because it would be more convenient is dangerous talk indeed...

Since when is the easier way out the better way out?

Let's take it a step further: By the stated logic of this post, the Federal Reserve should not be held accountable for their unlawful fleecing of the American people... It's been done already, the point is moot! If we audited the Federal Reserve, we'd have to replace the entire banking system from the top down, due to the complicity and cover up involved! Bankers would riot, etc... You get the point, or maybe not...

The point is, the man promised transparancy from the campaign platform. Not that I expected it, but most of the American voting public has proven itself to be historically consistantly gullible, collectively. The fact of the matter is, candidates tell the people what they want to hear. Fact of life.

You know what? I for one am ALL FOR clearing out the executive and legislative branches... in their entirity! Vacate ALL positions, Repulican AND Democrat. That's right... START OVER!

This country, now more than ever, needs inspired and driven statesmen, not more politicians. Since it seems most of the "parrots" on this thread seem to have been well indoctrinated by their public education, I'm sure the more motivated individuals among them will have to look up the two terms to discern the vast difference between the two.

The appointees, czars, and ALL public officials with even a scintilla of knowledge about this scandalous breach of the Constitution should be VERY PUBLICALLY punished as warning that treason to this Republic will NOT be tolerated. These people should never hold a public office in this land again.

This is irony that I'm aware of, but one of the founders of the Federal Reserve, Justice Louis Brandeis stated: "The government is the potent omnipresent teacher. For good or ill it teaches the whole people by it's example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for law; It invites every man to become a law unto himself; It invites anarchy. To declare that the end justifies the means- To declare that the government may commit crimes- Would bring terrible retribution."

This is from a man considered far and wide one of the greatest Supreme Court Justices the country has ever had... Why then, has the Federal government refused to heed this respected man's admonition? Furthermore, why do so many of the posters on this thread refuse to see the danger of remaining complacent on this issue?

This Republic needs a lobotomy en masse IMO.

[edit on 14/7/09 by cbianchi513]



posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 08:04 AM
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Originally posted by satwin
reply to post by WhatTheory
 


I'm not American, or even living in the U.S. so of course this issue isn't as important to me as it is to a lot of you.
However, I do take an interest in what goes in in the U.S. as it usually ends up affecting us in the U.K. eventually.
Personally I like Obama, and feel he is the right man for the job, and I wouldn't mind betting that any Americans that agree with me are not at all interested in where he was born, and whether he is really eligible for the position as president. The most important thing is will he do his best for the good of the people....and I am sure he will.....and is.
I'm pretty sure that all of you that are fighting to get to the bottom of this, are people that were against him getting into office in the first place, and are looking for anything that will get rid of him.


This has NOTHING to do with what a great guy Obama is or even if he is the right man for the job.

The real problem is that we have a CONSTITUTION that completely defines, separates, and protects the US from being any other country in the world. And once you allow ANY WIGGLE ROOM in regards to the constitution, then ALL AMERICANS' RIGHTS will begin to seep out from within its pages -- AS YOU ARE SEEING NOW.


I know about all the NWO stuff, Illuminati, etc.etc. but I strongly believe there are things going on behind the scenes that we don't really understand yet, and Obama has been chosen for a reason.


We all think that there are things going on "behind the scenes" and "that he was chosen for a reason"... It's called the NWO.



I don't believe he is just another puppet.....but I do believe that maybe for a while he is having to play his cards very carefully.


In what way is he playing his cards carefully? We have a $1 TRILLION deficit for the FIRST TIME IN HISTORY! The man has rammed more policies, budgets, expenses, bills, and slight-of-hand tactics down out throats FASTER than any other President in recent memory.



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posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 09:00 AM
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Originally posted by WhatTheory

Originally posted by aero56
How about this one then, Barack was my neighbor when I lived in Hawaii........

Oh sweet Jesus, where to begin.


First, I don't believe you. Where is your proof?

Secondly, unless you were standing there in the hospital next to Obama's mother when he was born, your point is moot. A neighbor, wow. That just proves he lived there at one time which we already knew and that is not in question.


I lived in Hawaii from 1966-1972. I was a nurse at that time. I worked for two ob-gyn doctors. I can't prove that to you, nor is it necessary. Sometimes you just don't know who is posting on this forum.

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posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 09:06 AM
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Originally posted by WhatTheory

Originally posted by Mr_Sushkov
Obama is a US citizen, stop it please

Yeah, but not a natural born citizen which is required to be President.
Good grief! There is a difference. Have you read any of the posts or do you have comprehension problems.


Article II, section I, says nothing about being born on US SOIL.



posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 09:31 AM
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Monday, July 13, 2009
BIRTH CERTIFICATE FEDERAL TRIAL WILL GO FORWARD ON THE MERITS

www.antimullah.com...


Obama eligibility case will be heard on merits !!
Please distribute everywhere.


At the hearing today at the Federal Court building in Santa Ana, Judge Carter said the following:
1. There will be a trial.
2. It will be heard on the merits.
3. Nothing will be dismissed on proceedural issues.
4. The trial will be expeditious, and the judge pledged to give case priority.
5. Being a former Marine he realizes the importance of having a Constitutionally qualified POTUS/CINC.
6. Judge stated that if Obama isn't Constitutionally qualifed he needs to leave the White House.

The DOJ will be involved with the case also.... wasn't clear if they would be trying to get to the truth or they would just be blindly representing Obama.





Keyes: Stop Obama or U.S. will cease to exist


www.wnd.com...

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posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 12:45 PM
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According to this:

www.abovetopsecret.com...


While a spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's Office said the move was merely procedural...


The move is merely procedural. And YES the source is about as erudite as WorldNet Daily.

Plus as whatukno already pointed out, Snopes has already debunked this entire fantasy. (Includes COLB, 2 newspaper articles and teacher's testimony.)

www.snopes.com...

www.snopes.com...




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posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 12:51 PM
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This one is for all the PC loving, liberal hippies out there. Oddly enough, I found it on Maddox's "Best page in the universe" site:



# write sumthn bout african americans!!!

First of all, the label "African American" is the dumbest, most persistently used phrase in our vernacular. Every time you call someone an "African American," you're making at least two assumptions about the person:

1. That the person is an American. For example, if you saw this guy walking along on a street, you would probably think:

(picture of an "African American")


...which is fine, except for one small detail: this man is British, which makes you a presumptuous c**k.

2. That the person is African (because it's inconceivable that black people could come from Haiti, India, Trinidad, Dominican Republic, Brazil, Australia, or Jamaica). Nevermind that; BLACK PEOPLE ONLY COME FROM AFRICA.

Not to mention that every time you give a black person the distinction of being "African American" out of a mixed group, you're making an assumption about an entire continent; not everyone from Africa is black. I guarantee all you politically correct morons out there have never called a white person an African American. Of course you could avoid all these problems by using the same standards on blacks as you would on whites by simply assuming that all whites are from Africa just as you do for all blacks, but that might be too forward, and in a polite society like ours, people would be all too pleased to point out which of the 192 countries you didn't guess they were actually from.


Link to source site

So Mr. Obama (NO, I WILL NOT address you as "president") Which is it? Are you American born? or are you African born? hmmm....

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posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 02:56 PM
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If BO is a citizen, and has nothing to hide, why does he simply stop spending our money to evade legal inquiries into seeing his BC?

Spent almost a million dollars so far, gee, how come the news cannot be bothered to bring that up?

The vault copy of his certificate of live birth will show:

The name of the Dr. that delivered him.

The name of the Hospital in which this occurred.

So far, we have seen nada.

And BO's lawyers are doing everything they can to keep it that way.


BORN IN THE USA?
Eligibility arguments to get court hearing

'For 1st time, we have a judge who's listening'

More? More!:

Obama: Where have all his records gone?

Footprints of president's own history either vanish or remain covered up

This disturbs no one?

Okay, then how about the future President Arnold Scharzeneggar?

He is just as qualified as BO.


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posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 05:49 PM
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Thank you for this post. Its so interesting how the Republicans are simply not interested in this issue even though some key Rep. leaders and congressmen are. I just got off the phone with our local GOP office and the person I spoke to just wrote this all off as a conspiracy theory lie. I posed the question to her as if this was a lie then wouldnt a real investigation into it reveal the fact that it is either a lie and truth and wouldnt the nature and gravity of this question warrent a real investigation just to be on the safe side?

I have been a Rebuplican for years, but the GOP of today isnt at all what the GOP of the past was and this is why they keep loosing.

Of course Obama is from Africa, but we will never know the truth fully because he is the messiah in so many peoples minds.



posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 05:54 PM
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Who cares where the man was born? A fascist is a fascist and a constitution is just a GIANT loophole for freedom removal from the general populace.

Instead of writing down rules about how we are free and who can lead us how about we just KNOW we are free and choose our leaders personally.

I do do not hold an allegiance to Obama. Not because he may or may not be legally holding office, but because the office itself is an antithesis to freedom of humanity.

Power structures are only OK when they are derived OF the people.

These creatures aren't people, they are politicians.
) I follow those I trust, I trust those I know. I know those I communicate with. I communicate with those that affect my daily life in one way or another.

I have personally vetted EVERY SINGLE PERSON I trust and those are the only people I put any real "faith" in as possible leaders of me.



posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 07:07 PM
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Not only is he not a citizen. A private investigator has unearthed the following which is part of a lawsuit filed on behalf of a Army Major:


"The evidence contained in exhibit B shows that Barrak Hussein Obama might have used as many as 149 addresses and 39 Social Security Numbers prior to assuming office as president. The Social Security number most commonly used by Barrak Hussein Obama is one issued by the state of Connecticut, the state where Barrak Hussein Obama never resided and shows him to be 119 years old.

This coupled with the fact that Mr Obama’s grandmother, Madeline Dunham was a volunteer at the Oahu Circuit Court Probate department and had access to the Social Security Numbers of the deceased, constitutes circumstantial evidence casting serious doubt on the legitimacy of Mr Obama and his claims of being born on U.S. territory.”

Here is a link to a youtube video I saw about it:
www.youtube.com...



posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 07:55 PM
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Like I said a few pages back... When this case moves forward, as it has been confirmed that it will, and casts the public's doubt... Rest assured the "race card" WILL surely be played.

IF the allegations are found to be true, (I truly believe that they will be, but could be wrong, admittedly) and Mr. Soetoro is removed from office via Articles of Impeachment...

Let's just say that the Rodney King riots are going to look like a picnic by comparison.

Not to mention the NWO will not allow their master plan to be interrupted by this.

Great for the Constitution of the United States that this issue WILL be cleared via legal means, but it could just add to, and indeed speed along the declaration of martial law.

Just a thought.



posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 08:44 PM
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Originally posted by cbianchi513
Just a thought.


Your summary sentence seems to be missing an adjective before the word thought.

- racist
- misguided
- unfounded
- hypocritical

Pick one, they all seem to work in your favor.

Regards...KK

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posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 09:04 PM
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I'm shocked... wait, based on your record of previous posts in this thread, I'm not. You seem to be playing the card ahead of schedule.

Nothing could be further from the truth in my case, but you wouldn't know that, would you? I'm just an anonymous person behind a keyboard to you. Because I make a prediction based on a historical event, as well as general tone of Obamatons whenever anyone makes a disparaging comment... I must be some redneck, huh?

Laughable.

Remember who you make an ass of when you assume?

Thanks pal. Way to perpetuate the problem.

To assume that ignorance will not win the day, especially in urban areas if this pans out the way I think it will...

Well, that's just... Assumptive, on top of ignorant.

I can't believe I once thought it was OK to share an idea.

I'm not very PC though, in fact I find the entire notion abhorrent, so I suppose apologies are not in order from this end.

I truly hope I'm wrong about this, but I fear I'm correct in my prognostication and analysis.

EDIT: spelling




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posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 09:15 PM
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Oh, bs. He meant exactly what he said. He was born on the African continent.



posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by ravenshadow13
But like... if you're going to flag the thread... why not comment on it, too?

We could debate the grammatical context of the whole thing. But instead everyone's like "Yep I agree that's cool."

Kind of a bummer.



I can support that train of thought, as I myself especially support and truly believe in intelligent discussions full of debate and analyzation.

On the topic of this particular thread, I do believe that such commentary as that provided by the Ghanaian Press does in fact add fuel to the proverbial fire. The statement might be construed in differing ways, and yes, obviously it does not represent any concrete evidence in support of the "Foreign Born Obama" Hypothesis, but it is interesting nonetheless, and it most certainly is worthy of a serious discussion.



posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 10:19 PM
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Originally posted by cbianchi513

You know what? I for one am ALL FOR clearing out the executive and legislative branches... in their entirity! Vacate ALL positions, Repulican AND Democrat. That's right... START OVER!

This country, now more than ever, needs inspired and driven statesmen, not more politicians.


I agree 100%, well put. They all should be hung at the gallows for treason, or be kicked out on their a$$ for complacency.




Originally posted by cbianchi513
The appointees, czars...


The fact that some of these so called "czars" can even be "appointed" by their messiah, and nobody bats an eye, is downright pathetic!

For instance, take OB's new Czar, for “Green Jobs” Anthony “Van” Jones, who freely admits he’s a proud San Francisco Communist with an arrest record.

“I met all these young radical people of color – I mean really radical, communists and anarchists. And it was, like, ‘This is what I need to be a part of… I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary…I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th, and then the verdicts came down on April 29th..By August, I was a communist.” - Van Jones




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