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The Gay Agenda---Making America A Little More Gay Everyday!

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posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 09:08 PM
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:-)



I star you for your gift of spontaneous humor By the way...VERY cool avatar !


I say - stars for everybody and anybody that has a sense of humor

goes double for our OP

and - thanks - about my gorilla

:-)




posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 09:40 PM
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posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 09:42 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


I second the middle line of your signature...


As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.




[edit on Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:43:48 -0500 by MemoryShock]



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 09:48 PM
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OOPS sorry I was trying to edit something and accidently clicked reply and made a whole new post, sorry. I really wish there was a delete function on this site for posts, because I seem to accidently do this a lot. Sorry mods!



[edit on 13-7-2009 by jeasahtheseer]



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 10:49 PM
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i have a close friend who's gay and i hate it, simply because i assume that people assume I'm gay even thought I've never ever done anything remotely gay in my entire life. i don't know why it bothers me but it does.

[edit on 14-7-2009 by LouieKnowsJeetKuneDo]



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 11:10 PM
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The sensationalism of some (minority I'm sure), keep the gay movement supressed as MSM seems pick these clips out for broadcast in a way that may give some empathy to the likes of Herbert Baumeister.

It's a campaign issue, it's not. It's a political eggshell as many other issues.

I agree the Constitution states all are equal, not to mention the seperation of church and state.

Just as the abortion issue however, there is a divide on the gay right movement, and I surely think even an honest representative may let personal belief and in some cases even blackmail for some skeleton of their own that sways their slow, methodical avoidance of the issue, when you get right down to it.

Personally, I may or may not have gay friends. I don't want that disclosure to color your opinion of what I am saying.

It is smoke and mirrors vs. defamation by the press.

What I think is of no concern. I would leave that choice absent on a ballot. It is not for me to decide.

As long as both sides don't preach to me, I am happy, you all are happy, and we move on.



posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 12:59 AM
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Originally posted by bagari
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Being gay is only natural in that it is naturally-occuring. It is not a beneficial trait which would benefit the survival of any species.



How can homosexuality be unnatural, yet naturally occurring?

Even assuming their is a "gay gene", you cannot base the entirety of its benefits solely on the viability of its offspring unless that gene is consistently passed on to the next generation.

The short: Unnatural = cyborg, T-100, Robocop. Natural = Being yourself no matter what.



posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 01:09 AM
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Originally posted by ts117

Originally posted by bagari
reply to post by KyoZero
 

Being gay is only natural in that it is naturally-occuring. It is not a beneficial trait which would benefit the survival of any species.



Tell me that the altruism tendency demonstrated by species is benefitial to the species (its' counter intuitive but has a valid reasoning) and spell it out for me (I know the answer)...

Homosexuality does not necessitate a 'disbenefit' to the human species and as far as social interactions afre concerned (save for the intolerant interactions) can be termed as benefitial in the same vein as altruism (your only hint).

Proponents of biological philosophy should really study what they assert...

[edit on Tue, 14 Jul 2009 01:09:57 -0500 by MemoryShock]



posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 02:03 AM
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Originally posted by groingrinder
Gay people are already as gay as it gets. Once you are gay, you cannot get any gayer. Now here is where it gets weird. ONLY STRAIGHT PEOPLE CAN BECOME GAYER.
That is correct. Only straight people can become gayer. Generally the gayer the straight person is, the more opposed to homosexuality they are.


thats right... all the straight men that believe that homosexuality is unnatural are probably gays still in the closet..


What can I say...? Well I guess we have to accept everything from every minority that wants a "piece of the pie" for themselves. Every single minority we have to say "oh... poor guys, they just want their rights as every other human being".

We are always a majority ruled by a minority anyway, plus the gay lobby has more power than every straight man or woman in this planet, so screw it...

What do you want? The right to get married under the church like a normal couple? Sure go ahead! Bring on the bride and... the bride for all I care. But nop, not going to happen. You see... even the almighty gay lobby is powerless against the church, and even the homosexuals INSIDE the church would burn the others if they needed to so... you'll never get the right to marry and all that jazz like a "normal" couple. You'll never climb up the political career if you assume your homosexuality, you wont ever be president if you assume it. There is a lot of stuff that the gay lobby is still powerless to do and I think its fine.

Theres also situations with straight people that are not accepted. For instance... a brother cant marry his sister. Now... most people would think "damn a guy and his sister... damn revolting, yuck" well you see, as yucky as it seems it is even MORE natural than homosexuality, and by some of these "gay movement" activists standards, it does happens in nature all the time, its the most natural thing in the world ending up breeding between brothers.... now does society accept it? Can they marry? NO.

But lets make a movement promoting and even encouraging brother-sister relations, or father-daughter, or mother-son. After all it is natural, happens in nature all the time so it must be either intelligent design ( if you're an evolutionist) or God's will that made beings on earth do that (if you're a christian or whatever religion) cause like I said, it happens in a MUCH MORE regular and natural way in nature than homosexuality.

So here's my request. Please make all the guys that have hot chicks for sister trying some of their own, and let them get married cause its natural. I dont see why 2 people in love can not show their love and have the same rights as a regular couple whos in love.

How bout that? (pity I dont have a sister tho... but... lets screw all freaking morals we have and send them down the drain cause its alright. Everything and anything is ALRIGHT!)



posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 03:17 AM
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I have a question that I've asked many times, and everyone avoids. To you anti-gay people, if you had a kid that ended up gay what would you do? Would you disown your child? And don't say something like "I'd never have a gay kid, I teach them morals". It has nothing to do with that, you can beat whatever you want into your kids, but if they are gay they are gonna be gay.

Actually most likely if you beat stuff into your kids and preach to them they will rebel. I was raised in a strict "military" household and verbally abused and VERY violently physically abused by my drunk drug addict "father" for no reason and I completely rebeled when I was a teenager. I left home when I was 15 years old and lived on my own and I have not seen my "father" or "mother" since then and I am 26 now. I have no desire to see those scumbags and I never will see them again. Those are not parents. Those are monsters.

We are supposed to love our children unconditionally.

Anyways, I am just wondering about this.

Me personally I have a daughter and if she turned out to be lesbian I wouldn't care, who cares. I would still love her and she would still be my little angel, it wouldnt change my view of her what so ever. But I am also not a homophobe. Although I can't say I'd want her hooking up with girls in my house or anything, but I also wouldn't want her having sex with dudes in my house either. Both of those are completely innapropriate to do in a parents house. I however would allow her boyfriend (or girlfriend) over for dinner and stuff like that.

My wife is religious and I think she would flip out a little if our daughter turned out gay, but even my wife would still accept her I think.

Edit: Its been a few hours now and I noticed everyone is COMPLETELY IGNORING THIS POST! Could atleast ONE of you be a freaking MAN and tell me what would you do if you had a gay kid?

You guys not responding to this just proves to me that you guys probably would disown and beat your kids if they turned out gay.

You are disgusting, vile people.



[edit on 14-7-2009 by jeasahtheseer]



posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 03:20 AM
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In that your OP makes many contraversial claims & cites nothing as evidence, whilst inviting others to join in & support your unsupported viewpoint, it is the very raison d'etre of the conservative stereotype. In short sir, you are an ignoramus & your OP has demonstrated this for the whole world to see.
"Is you is, or is you aint, my constituency?"
Er... no sir, we most certainly are not & I for 1 would eat my own arse before being seen to lend any kind of credence to your ignorance.



posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 03:50 AM
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Um, ok...

When we are forming in our mothers belly we all start off physically as a girl. Girls of course have a clitoris which is a small shaft of engorgable tissue which is crazy because that's exactly what a penis is. I'm going to get a little vulgar here but I'm sure everyone here is already aware of everything I'm saying. The clitoris becomes hard when stimulated and has a little flap of skin around it. The skin covering the labia majora is the same skin covering guys testicles. There's not a big difference there so every time a straight man has sex with his wife or girlfriend your rubbing up on that and there's nothing wrong with because your clearly of the opposite sex yet, on a molecular level your not. Don't treat gays any different then you'd treat straight people. I think everyone thinks they have this better then you attitude is thinking about it the wrong way. It's a very new time for them when they're trying to earn their rights to get married and be socially accepted and they kind of have to be in your face with it. I myself am not gay but I do know people who are and they always remind me they have not chosen Perez Hilton to be there spokes person.



posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 04:00 AM
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I'm still trying to figure out how that blathering idiot got to be famous?!?!?
We certainly DID NOT nominate Perez Hilton as our spokesman! Somebody call that whiny queen a WHAAAAAAAAABULANCE!



posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 04:18 AM
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I will tell you though, as a fat person I am kind of happy about his videos detailing his struggle with his weight and how hes taking a long time to get it off the right way. But, as someone who enjoys her cigarettes it bugs me when he makes a whole post about them but whatever, I still bookmarked his site.



posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 04:19 AM
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Hey man, like they say, opinioins are like buttholes...everyone's got one! So excuse me while I bend over and show you mines. Gay and lebisan or any sexual disorinatied person should seek medical help. They are sick and misguided indiduals....period! These people are more likely alien controlled and that's apprentally the alien agenda, to get as many people running around screwing anything that moves. Ok, I'm not one to always bring the bible element into such a subject, but did not God destroy the planet with water because of all the sexual promisitiy in people. Very soon it will come out just how many people are having sex with babies, small children and animals. Do you want to see this on the street? It's all over the internet and who do you think is behind the internet...exactly, the aliens.



posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 04:29 AM
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Hey BM explain to me what are the different types of "sexually disoriented" people? (I know you mean gay people and pedophiles, but who else?) Do you consider everyone sexually disoriented unless they are straight and white and only attracted to white people? Because if you do then 75 percent of the world is sexually disoriented. Are interracial straight couples considered sexually disoriented too in your book?

Twisted old world dark ages views NEED TO GO in this day and age. It isn't needed. Please pull your head out of your ass.

lmao at the aliens behind the internet. Do you even know the history of the internet? It started off as a way for colleges and the government to keep in contact with eachother through email and networks. Hardly alien.

And yes there is probably nasty stuff on the net, but you have to search for it. I have NEVER ONCE come across any disgusting stuff just randomly on the net. Nothing is forced on you. I however do not watch porn, so I wouldn't know what kind of disgusting stuff is out there.

No one is trying to force gay sex upon you, calm the hell down, buddy.

You really think gay people are trying to turn you gay and have sex with you? I doudt that. Get off your high horse, I'm sure gays are not the least bit attracted you. No gay people are trying to convert people or anything, that is just absurd.

And no god did not destroy the planet with water to kill anyone off, atleast not on my planet, because there is no god in my world.

I don't even know why I'm bothering responding to you, you believe in the "alien agenda" obviously you are a wacko.

I have a young daughter and my wife just got pregnant again. I hope by the time my children are in their 40s or so you bigot people have died off. And you dieing off, faster and faster each year. Because you guys are getting older and older. And more and more younger people are learning to accept everyone every day.

Eventually your kind will be EXTINCT! Now thats something I will be able to
thank god for.

Its even obvious there aren't to much of you guys left after reading this thread, about 60 percent or 70 percent or so of the people in thread I have noticed don't have the same hateful, shamefull views as you.

bye you hate mongering weirdo.




[edit on 14-7-2009 by jeasahtheseer]



posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 04:35 AM
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Originally posted by Bm2211
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Ok, I'm not one to always bring the bible element into such a subject, but did not God destroy the planet with water because of all the sexual promisitiy in people.


That's why I don't want to earn my ticket to get into his exclusive club. God made your body the way it is apparently, and a long time ago we lived for about 30 years so we had to have babies young. Thus, puberty hits and we want to have sex which was a good thing since we didn't live very long. Also, does not sexual thinking and stimulation aid in the effort of actual penetration huh God. But now you have to wait till you get married or its a sin, you can't think about it or its a sin, its ridiculous. It can be dangerous and that should be taught like crazy how to protect yourself and what not. And, the emotional aspects of the whole thing but, really? I don't want to impress anything that would at the flick of a hand destroy everything because they don't like something, I call shenanigans on that argument.



posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 04:41 AM
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Originally posted by Bunken Drum
reply to post by tothetenthpower
 
In that your OP makes many contraversial claims & cites nothing as evidence, whilst inviting others to join in & support your unsupported viewpoint, it is the very raison d'etre of the conservative stereotype. In short sir, you are an ignoramus & your OP has demonstrated this for the whole world to see.
"Is you is, or is you aint, my constituency?"
Er... no sir, we most certainly are not & I for 1 would eat my own arse before being seen to lend any kind of credence to your ignorance.


You seem relatively new here at ATS so let me give you a clue. The OP believe it or not IS gay. He is 'married' in Canada to his husband and if I am not mistaken have a couple of adopted kids. Might I suggest reading a thread before flaming on it?



posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 05:47 AM
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Originally posted by FraternitasSaturni
What can I say...? Well I guess we have to accept everything from every minority that wants a "piece of the pie" for themselves. Every single minority we have to say "oh... poor guys, they just want their rights as every other human being".

We are always a majority ruled by a minority anyway, plus the gay lobby has more power than every straight man or woman in this planet, so screw it...

That's how the United States Constitution was designed. I was meant to protect he minority and/or individual from persecution.


What do you want? The right to get married under the church like a normal couple?

I'm not gay but from what I understand, they want the right to be married in a civil union recognized by the government. They don't want to FORCE churches to marry them.


Sure go ahead! Bring on the bride and... the bride for all I care. But nop, not going to happen. You see... even the almighty gay lobby is powerless against the church, and even the homosexuals INSIDE the church would burn the others if they needed to so... you'll never get the right to marry and all that jazz like a "normal" couple.

Actually it probably will happen as it's become legal in a few states and will only continue to expand to other states.


You'll never climb up the political career if you assume your homosexuality, you wont ever be president if you assume it.

This may also not be true. Maybe not in the immediate future but the American public has proven that they are setting their baisis' behind by electing a black man and coming close to electing a woman for the presidency and another for vice presidency. It's only a matter of time before hatred such as yourself will become....extinct



There is a lot of stuff that the gay lobby is still powerless to do and I think its fine.

There's also lots of stuff the neocons are currently powerless to do... THANK GOD !


Theres also situations with straight people that are not accepted. For instance... a brother cant marry his sister.

So now you're comparing homosexuality to incest? Let me guess, you will next compare it to bestiality ?
You must watch the 700 club and that nutbag pat robertson !


Now... most people would think "damn a guy and his sister... damn revolting, yuck" well you see, as yucky as it seems it is even MORE natural than homosexuality,

I find it interesting that you find incest which can result in many genetic mutations, to be more natural then homosexuality. Seems to me your blind hatred for homosexuals is more important then presenting factual information.


and by some of these "gay movement" activists standards, it does happens in nature all the time, its the most natural thing in the world ending up breeding between brothers.... now does society accept it? Can they marry? NO.

Don't even know where to start with this comment



But lets make a movement promoting and even encouraging brother-sister relations, or father-daughter, or mother-son. After all it is natural,

Please explain why you believe incest is natural.


happens in nature all the time so it must be either intelligent design ( if you're an evolutionist)

Someone who subscribes to the Theory of Evolution does NOT believe in intelligent design. That fairy tale is limited to the religious.


or God's will that made beings on earth do that (if you're a christian or whatever religion) cause like I said, it happens in a MUCH MORE regular and natural way in nature than homosexuality.

Since you've made this claim, could you at least back it up with scientific evidence. You've made a number of incorrect claims already so to help your case, you might want to post some corrections and add evidence.


So here's my request. Please make all the guys that have hot chicks for sister trying some of their own, and let them get married cause its natural. I dont see why 2 people in love can not show their love and have the same rights as a regular couple whos in love.

Wow, you just can't get off this incest thing, can you? Do you have a hot sister or something?


How bout that? (pity I dont have a sister tho... but... lets screw all freaking morals we have and send them down the drain cause its alright. Everything and anything is ALRIGHT!)


To bad you can't draw a reasonable line !
Obviously your archaic religious beliefs prevent you from having an open and compassionate mind.

What have homosexuals every done to you? How do they harm you in any way? I'm referring to 2 consensual adults in a relationship....How does this hurt you in any way, shape or form? Seriously, I'd really like to know !



posted on Jul, 14 2009 @ 06:21 AM
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Star and flag for your thread.


I'm not gay, but I want nothing more than equality for them. IMO, it's just wrong that they can't be married, or are looked at as abnormal or any other bullpooey that's spouted off about them.



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