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The Gay Agenda---Making America A Little More Gay Everyday!

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posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 11:47 PM
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If everyone could please remember that we require civility while debating, regardless of the issue, that would be great.

Thanks!




posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 11:48 PM
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Lets look at norms of some societies shall we, whats your gage? (ive included ours as its till recent we have done some of these)

Women no equality, not permitted to vote and no inheritance laws until recently

Eating human hearts to make the sun move

Having 4 wives

Slaughter over 16 million people in the coloniztion as it was the 'WESTS ' right to take over lands.

Go to mass in Latin when u dont understand it so u can be kept enslaved.

Kill and burn over a miillion people (esp women) as the didnt agree with your inquisition.

Slaughter of Cambodians by the Khmer Rouge as they didnt agree ideoligally, so lets smash their babies against trees.


Normal is just a badge people use to win an arguement and keep themselves as a power group. The gage for them change along with power status, and u all just feer gays getting power .


The norms from past listed we can do without, along with your bigotry.



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 11:48 PM
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Maybe it's religion then.

I don't believe in sin. I believe murder is wrong. I believe sin is an excuse for people to judge other people. I think people should act respectfully and lovingly towards others and when we die we turn to dirt because I'm an evolutionist and I like science and logic and I swear this thread just proves that religion, although supposed to unite people who support love and peace, drives EVERYONE apart.



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 11:49 PM
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Originally posted by bobbylove321
And you still can't prove how gay could be normal.


How does homosexuality effect your life directly?

What is normal?

What is proof?

What is gay?

And never tell me I can't. Unless you are willing to live in that bubble you have inadvertently created...



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 11:50 PM
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This stuff is getting completely out of hand. I can't believe with everything going on in the world, at any given time I can come to ATS and see multiple threads about the gay subject.

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But that's just the point though........ everything going on IN the world is due to things happening just like the gay agenda being pushed so hard on society.

If any of you care to do some research, the Bible (King James) details all of this out for us - He has given us warning after warning........ but 'mankind' still isn't repenting or turning from their sin(s).

Adultery, homosexuality, murder, molestation, etc.........


Has anyone looked at the headlines lately? God isn't easing up on our planet. I would say people need to heed the warning - or else the prophecies will unfold just as predicted in the Bible. And it isn't pretty.



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 11:51 PM
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ooooooooo Good...

So true so very very true

Normal really is such an ugly word...



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 11:52 PM
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I think this word normal is an interesting thing. There is like statistically normal and then "normal".

I think you could say that it is a fact that homosexual sexual preferenes are outside the norm of human behavior. Since some people are either born that way or the are influenced environmentally that way or they have a chemical differnce that causes them to have a sexual preference outside the statistical norm. That in a statistical sense makes them outside the norm.

So to identify the cause you must be able to separate the groups and test for possible causes of both sexual preferences to understand how it works.

So I dont really think it is offensive to say that it is outside the norm, since it is a scientific statistical fact.

But maybe I am just getting hung up on terms.



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 11:53 PM
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Again, 'religion' has absolutely nothing to do with God. Nothing.

God created us, the universe, everything. And He put His laws in place for us to follow. But MANKIND, being mankind, decided he was above God and His laws - so over the generations, this current one especially, things have progressively declined - at a rapid rate. Morals, ethics, lack of accountability....... man has just gotten too big for his britches. And we are now starting to pay for that. It will only get worse unless WE, mankind, repent and turn from our sins.

I know I sound like a broken record but it's really simple - people try to make it so complicated.



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 11:54 PM
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Here's the key then.
You keep your sins to yourself and let all the other sinners burn in hell if that's what they want, okay?

I get that you want the world to be pure or save their souls or whatever.

If Christianity is on target, tons of us are going down and I think we know who we are. We chose to take a risk. It's none of your business what other people "sin" and honestly it isn't the government's, either. That's why there is separation of church and state in this country, although I'm starting to seriously DOUBT how much we hold true to that.



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 11:55 PM
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Homosexuals are deviants and disgusting, period.

The Folsom Street fair in San Francisco is a good example of why homosexuality needs to STFU and stay underground where it belongs. Many unsuspecting tourists bring their children to the Folsom Street fair hoping to promote cultural equality to their children. What happens is, they walk up on homosexuals having public sex. It's truly disgusting, and the police don't do anything about it.

Now that homosexuality is the "in" thing, because it's so rebellious and "new" I theorize that paeodphilia and bestiality are next in line for equal rights.

Guess what? Michael Jackson's death is already promoting paeophilia.

That sick freak died, and the entire world is idolizing a CHILD MOLESTER.

I mean I can't believe I'm seeing this. Are we really saying this guy was great because his music was good?

WHO CARES if his music is good.

GOOD RIDDANCE.




According to a site spokesperson, MSN.com received its biggest traffic spike ever during the Jackson event, with 50% more people watching the memorial than watched Barack Obama's inauguration.





Child molestation and pedophilia occur far more commonly among homosexuals than among heterosexuals on a per capita basis, according to a new study.

"Overwhelming evidence supports the belief that homosexuality is a sexual deviancy often accompanied by disorders that have dire consequences for our culture," wrote Steve Baldwin in, "Child Molestation and the Homosexual Movement," soon to be published by the Regent University Law Review.


www.wnd.com...

[edit on 12-7-2009 by northexpedition]



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 11:55 PM
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If any of you care to do some research, the Bible (King James) details all of this out for us - He has given us warning after warning........ but 'mankind' still isn't repenting or turning from their sin(s).


Shall I quote more bible for you>? Get your clubs out and start the killin peeps!! Actually I beleve god will eat some of your enemies too, so maybe just sacrifice your children as it states for cursing.


“Leviticus 20:13, God gets a bit more specific about what should happen to homosexuals when He says: “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them”;

in 20:9 there is an instruction that children who curse their parents must be killed (in Deuteronomy 21:18-21, God goes a bit further and orders the death penalty for children who are just disobedient);

in 11:6 we are told not to eat hares because they “cheweth the cud” (??); in 11:10 we are prohibited from eating oysters, prawns, lobsters and calamari; in 11:19 we are told not to eat bats (because they are birds!); in 15:19 we are instructed to quarantine menstruating women;

in 19:19 we are told not to wear polyester and cotton blend shirts; in 19:27 men are instructed not to trim their beards;

in 19:28 tattoos are prohibited; in 24:16 there are explicit instructions to kill blasphemers (including the method of killing);

in 25:45-46 we can find the instructions on how to get and keep slaves; and let’s not forget that women are only worth half as much as men (27:3-7). If you don’t obey all these laws to the letter God will have some of your children eaten by your enemies (26:16), some eaten by wild animals

(26:22), and you will have to eat the rest yourself (26:29). It’s just as well that God only meant the parts about homosexuals being bad and was joking about the rest, isn’t it?”


[edit on 12-7-2009 by zazzafrazz]



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 11:57 PM
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I'll have to agree with you on the MJ issue - I was reading last night about the magazines they found at his ranch during the molestation trial - "Barely Legal" said it all for me.

He WAS a talented individual - but he had issues, that was clear. But I agree, putting him on a postage stamp or idolizing him in ANY fashion has wrong written all over it.



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 11:59 PM
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Originally posted by northexpedition
Now that homosexuality is the "in" thing, because it's so rebellious and "new" I theorize that paeodphilia and bestiality are next in line for equal rights.

Guess what? Michael Jackson's death is already promoting paeophilia.

That sick freak died, and the entire world is idolizing a CHILD MOLESTER.

I mean I can't believe I'm seeing this. Are we really saying this guy was great because his music was good?

WHO CARES if his music is good.

GOOD RIDDANCE.




According to a site spokesperson, MSN.com received its biggest traffic spike ever during the Jackson event, with 50% more people watching the memorial than watched Barack Obama's inauguration.




[edit on 12-7-2009 by northexpedition]


I seriously can't believe you actually live in the bay. I hardly EVER encounter hateful people like you EVER here in the bay. I live over in Oakland. And I'm not gay by the way, but I don't mind gay people and I don't care about what they do. It doesnt bother me or affect my life in any way, so why does it bother you? Why are you so worried about them? Do you feel threatened?

And i don't care about michael jackson and I think he was child molestor too, but how in the HELL do you live in san francisco and have all these problems with gay people?

There is no way in hell you were born and raised in the bay, you must be here for college or some crap lol. Cause I seriously never encounter hateful people like you EVER out here.


[edit on 13-7-2009 by jeasahtheseer]



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 11:59 PM
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Alright... I couldn't stand MJ

But his death isn't promoting pedophilia lol

nor sex with chimps

his supporters adamantly refuse to believe he did it.... there's a big difference... I believe he did, but just sayin, his supporters deny the charge feverishly, they don't support pedophilia



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 11:59 PM
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en.wikipedia.org...

Oh right. Really new.

"The earliest documents concerning same-sex pederastic relationships come from Ancient Greece."

You can read the rest. Entire history there for ya.



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 11:59 PM
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I used to say that this will lead to open beastiality and pedophillia over time..maybe 20 years or so. I guess we just have to learn to accept everybodies behavior and as long as it isnt harmful then we just turn our heads and look the other way and tolerate it. I guess it beats the hell out of arguing about it forever.



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 11:59 PM
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again what has a child molestor (who professed to be hetrosexual) got to do with gays?
Im so sick of people associating gays with a predominantly hetrosexual crime.


[edit on 13-7-2009 by zazzafrazz]



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 12:00 AM
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That was in the Old Testament but glad you know your Bible.



I have to sit and shake my head at all of the people that would choose to live a short 60-90 years living a free for all life........ and give up any chance of living eternally in Heaven.

If you read the Bible you probably already know this but when you die, you don't stay dead. You will live eternally in one of two places - your choice.




posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 12:01 AM
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Actually, I was being sarcastic. I was basically saying that you do not approach the subject like a scientist. Your porn analogy holds little water as pornographic images FAR precede Playboy. Pornographic images and writings can be found in artifacts and writings of the ancient Romans and many civilizations that came before them. There is some sexy stuff in the old testament which is attributed to King David as author.

Seeing as how pornography was around for so long and there are still plenty of people who prefer and enjoy "conventional" sex, I don't see how your analogy holds water. Things have not gotten worse, just more out in the open.

Many, many societies in the past looked at homosexuality as no big deal. The ancient Greeks, where Democracy comes from, were far more open minded about homosexual relationships. Thus, seeing as homosexuality has been out in the open for thousands of years and there are still heterosexuals running around all over the place, I doubt that there is a "trend" of homosexuality that is threatening heterosexuality.



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 12:01 AM
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Originally posted by zazzafrazz
reply to post by nomorecruelty
 


again what has a child molestor (who professed to be hetrosexual) got to do with gays?
Im so sick of people associating gays with a predominantly hetrosexual crime.


[edit on 13-7-2009 by zazzafrazz]


I dont think they are accusing homosexuals of being anymore into pedophilia than heterosexuals. I think they are just saying that they will use the same path to equal rights that homosexuals use to get their rights. Just like homesexuals used the path that african americans did to get their rights.



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