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Intelligent Design proved by Biologists Scientists from Cambridge, Lots of Bad Science and Frauds.

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posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 12:56 PM
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This first youtuber is an simple to understand lecture on the ApeMan fraud..
Yes, FRAUD, all this 'link' that are found are fiction and lot of bones from different animals..


The Theory of Evolution is not a scientific law or a law of biology. A scientific law must be 100% correct. Failure to meet only one challenge proves the law is wrong. This web page will prove that the Theory of Evolution fails many challenges, not simply one. The Theory of Evolution will never become a law of science because it is wrought with errors. This is why it is called a theory, instead of a law.


This next youtuber is a series of 7 that are available on the youtube channel.


Intelligent Design proved by - Biologists, Scientists from Cambridge, Chicago, Munchen - debating and refuting Evolution Theory ! Scientists presents Proof of Intelligent Design ! Charles Darwin - Origin of Species - Disproved, Refuted by Biologists and Scientists !

Creation proved by Scientists !




Scientists call these ape-like features "evolutionary baggage." In other words, these scientists are discrediting their own evolutionary theory of "natural selection." They are calling the ape-like features unnecessary "baggage." The theory of natural selection is not supposed to have unnecessary baggage, remember?

The age of this fossilized animal is also very much in doubt. Scientists many years ago claimed a tooth found was Nebraska Man, a pre-human fossil millions of years old. They determined the age of the tooth. The scientists had sculptured an entire ape-like skeleton from information they found in one tooth. These lies were exposed when real scientists found the tooth to be from a modern-day pig.
Scientific Facts Proving Charles Darwin's
Theory of Evolution is Wrong, False, and Impossible



As you read below, you'll come across something you may have read and talked about before : R.C. Rose-Cross (Rosicrucian) order. Remember the Georgia Guidestones?


www.GlobalFreemasonry.com
What is meant here by "new discoveries" is an understanding of science aligned to naturalism, a theory that does not accept the existence of God. This distorted approach to scientific study was developed secretly in esoteric societies that needed to use signs and symbols for this purpose, and so the roots of Masonry were established.

One of these so-called secret societies, responsible for planting the roots of Masonry, was the Rose-Cross (Rosicrucian) order, a sort of meeting point between the Templars and Masons. This order, first heard of in the fifteenth century, created a fury of interest in alchemy, especially in Europe, of which its members were said to possess secret knowledge. But the most important legacy of the Rose Cross order today is the naturalist philosophy, and the idea of evolution, of which it is a part. The Mason declares that the roots of Masonry go back to the Templars and the Rosicrucians, stressing the evolutionist philosophy of the latter:

Speculative Masonry or the contemporary organization of Masonry is founded on Medieval construction guilds we refer to as Operative Masonry. But, those who brought the basic speculative elements to this foundation were members of certain organizations that studied pre-historic esoteric systems and the knowledge they contained. The most important of these organizations were the Templars and the Rosicrucians.

It is unknown where and how the Rosicrucian order was established. The first traces of it come from fifteenth century Europe, but it is clear that the order is much older. As distinct from the Templars, the basic interest of the Rosicrucians was scientific. Its members were widely engaged in alchemy..The most important characteristic of its members was the fact that they believed that every stage of development was a stage in the process of evolution. For this reason, they placed naturalism at the basis of their philosophies and became known the "naturalists."



Darwin attempted to describe the origins of life, about which he knew little, in a short sentence, wherein he stated that life must have first appeared "some warm little pond,"111 but evolutionists that followed him became concerned about elaborating on this matter. However, efforts made throughout the twentieth century to produce an evolutionist explanation of the origins of life resulted only in deepening the impasse in which evolutionists had found themselves. Apart from the fact that evolutionists have not been able to give the slightest scientific proof that life can be generated from lifeless matter, they have also not been able to provide even a theoretical explanation. This is because the structure of the most basic single-celled living organism is highly complex. It is mathematically impossible that even a cell's basic constituents-proteins, DNA or RNA-could have come to be by chance, much less the cell itself.

The fact that the probability of life generating by chance is zero alone proves the existence of order, in other words the fact of creation. On this matter, the famous English astronomer and mathematician, Fred Hoyle, makes this comment:

Indeed, such a theory (that life was assembled by an intelligence) is so obvious that one wonders why it is not widely accepted as being self-evident. The reasons are psychological rather than scientific.112

This "psychological reason" that Hoyle mentions is the evolutionists' disposition by which they insist on rejecting, in advance, every result that should lead them to accept the existence of God and their conditioning themselves for this.


As you can see just by reading the SMALL amount of information here, you might begin to see how big this Lie and Coverup is..

The Conspiracy of all conspiracies...




A notable case of a scientists using fraudulent material to promote the theory of evolution was the work of German scientist and atheist Ernst Haeckel. Noted evolutionist Stephen Gould wrote the following regarding Ernst Haeckel's work in a March 2000 issue of Natural History:

“ "Haeckel’s forceful, eminently comprehensible, if not always accurate, books appeared in all major languages and surely exerted more influence than the works of any other scientist, including Darwin…in convincing people throughout the world about the validity of evolution... Haeckel had exaggerated the similarities [between embryos of different species] by idealizations and omissions. He also, in some cases — in a procedure that can only be called fraudulent — simply copied the same figure over and over again.…Haeckel’s drawings never fooled expert embryologists, who recognized his fudgings right from the start. Haeckel’s drawings, despite their noted inaccuracies, entered into the most impenetrable and permanent of all quasi-scientific literatures: standard student textbooks of biology... Once ensconced in textbooks, misinformation becomes cocooned and effectively permanent, because…textbooks copy from previous texts.... [W]e do, I think, have the right to be both astonished and ashamed by the century of mindless recycling that has led to the persistence of these drawings in a large number, if not a majority, of modern textbooks!"

The trustworthy encyclopedia

This is in your own interest to get our history right, and stop believing all the lies that is printed in our childrens schoolbooks and speculative science..!!

Have a nice read ..




posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 01:33 PM
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consciousness existed before life, it had too, deductive reasoning proves this....

therefor everything has been intelligently designed, or maybe just designed.....


Natural selection and evolution may happen but it was all thought up by something...

duh.


liquid



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 01:51 PM
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IMO, both go hand in hand you get discredit one without actually discrediting the other.

Obviously there are circumstances and environments on Earth that are simply far too "perfect" to have happened without some sort of intervention. Now was that of a higher power, I highly doubt it. Seems to me like beings of a higher order would have more things to do then peddle around in a petri dish.

Was it ET, that sounds more convincing simply given the fact that we are constantly lied to about their existance and our TRUE past as human beings. Evolution certainly did have it's way with us however.

You need only look for minute differences in the genetic code of people. Had we been completely "designed" then there would be no imperfection, disease or mutations. Things would have been worked out and then left that way.

We obviously have some sort of random process that dictates what happens when you mix two people's DNA together, the results can be quite astounding, or quite dissapointing (ie.George W).

So really I think scientists who spend their careers attempting to refute the theory of evolution or intelligent design are wasting their time. They should be focusing on how to link these two theories as they obviously both play a part in the creation of life.

~Keeper



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 01:51 PM
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I hope the guy in the first vid isn't christian because I don't like to take counter evolutionist theory's from christians, its just me.



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 02:07 PM
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Here, instead of the JUNK 'science' from those wannabe "experts", let's see what actual scholarly people have to say on the subject:



NOW, keep in mind, the above is NOT about evolution, per se....but I imagine it's still over the heads of the people who made the videos in the OP.


This next one goes fast, too. Hint: Requires reading comprehension....




AND, finally....to refute the horrendously poor "science" spouted by creationists......



(tags)


[edit on 12 July 2009 by weedwhacker]



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 02:11 PM
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this is nothing new

geneticists have proven for decades that our origins are dubious


Mitochondrial DNAs from 147 people, drawn from five geographic populations have been analysed by restriction mapping. All these mitochondrial DNAs stem from one woman who is postulated to have lived about 200,000 years ago, probably in Africa. All the populations examined except the African population have multiple origins, implying that each area was colonised repeatedly.

artsci.wustl.edu...

Possibly UFO people mated with or spliced their genes with existing earth primates and produced us?

Interestingly, we are the only creature on the planet with so many genetic and health defects.



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 02:49 PM
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The Theory of Evolution is not a scientific law or a law of biology. A scientific law must be 100% correct. Failure to meet only one challenge proves the law is wrong. This web page will prove that the Theory of Evolution fails many challenges, not simply one. The Theory of Evolution will never become a law of science because it is wrought with errors. This is why it is called a theory, instead of a law.


Massive misunderstanding. A Scientific Theory does not become a law. Theories are open for change. Already this thread loses a lot of credit.

In regards to the first video:
John Pendleton has a B.S. in Chemistry, and works as a missionary to Mexico with Jesus' Final Command Incorporated. He's religious to the core, and is not academically qualified to be making the claims that he does.

His first example isn't a specific example, it's a fabricated story designed to look ridiculous. He keeps saying "apemen", which shows his lack of understanding. Man is grouped in taxonomy with the Great Apes. I can't finish this video, when he brings out the bible all hope is lost. When you are debunking science, you do not debunk it with religion. You debunk it with other scientific evidence.

In regards to the series of videos:
There are a handful of interesting arguments presented. I honestly haven't heard of these arguments until now. However, these arguments don't necessarily disprove Evolution or prove Creation. We know Evolution happens, but it is not completely understood how or why.



Scientists call these ape-like features "evolutionary baggage." In other words, these scientists are discrediting their own evolutionary theory of "natural selection." They are calling the ape-like features unnecessary "baggage." The theory of natural selection is not supposed to have unnecessary baggage, remember?


Like I said, Evolution is not completely understood. We humans have a lot of vestigial features. At points in our evolutionary history these now useless structures and features - body hair, wisdom teeth, tail bone, etc. - were major parts of organisms that utilized them.



It is mathematically impossible that even a cell's basic constituents-proteins, DNA or RNA-could have come to be by chance, much less the cell itself.


Not quite, many different organic molecules have been detected in space. Amino acids, sugars, and other molecules that play key roles in the function and structure of living organisms.

Also, Fred Hoyle pushed the idea that life evolved in spaced.


A notable case of a scientists using fraudulent material to promote the theory of evolution was the work of German scientist and atheist Ernst Haeckel. Noted evolutionist Stephen Gould wrote the following regarding Ernst Haeckel's work in a March 2000 issue of Natural History:


Written by another evolutionist. In all fields of science there will always be frauds and crackpots, just as in religion and everywhere else.



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 03:06 PM
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Interestingly, we are the only creature on the planet with so many genetic and health defects.


We are also the only creature on the planet that keep in the people who suffer from genetic weakness, who would normally die off in childhood, or be at a serious disadvantage, and keep them in the gene pool.

We exist in a habitat outside of our natural one, and regularly partake of harmful compounds, and don't take good care of our bodies for the most part.



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 03:09 PM
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Possibly UFO people mated with or spliced their genes with existing earth primates and produced us?

Interestingly, we are the only creature on the planet with so many genetic and health defects.


Not that is not even what they are saying the article you quoted. So I am not sure what you are trying to convey with the quote.

We are the only creature on the planet that keeps statistics on our health problems and all get medical care from professionals that aid in the process of data collection.



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 03:45 PM
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Deep Sea News
Just wanted to add this, caus it say what I say also !!


'Science Daily' is reporting that just because they teach you something in graduate school doesn’t make it right.


Just that Darwin and friends were freemasons tells me this is nothing more than BS. As I tried to show you guys, the Evo theory was instated to fool people and get them AWAY from theyr beliefs.

And why you people chose to belive the NWO lies just because you need your 'facts' from the very people trying to kill you with forced dubble dose of poison, is beyond me..

That is why you never move forward !!


I personaly dont trust any thing any governments have to say about how we came to be, cuase it doesnt make sense, or even add up !!


Hardest part about lying, is to get the story straight !!


'' The fact that the probability of life generating by chance is zero alone proves the existence of order, in other words the fact of creation. On this matter, the famous English astronomer and mathematician, Fred Hoyle, makes this comment:

Indeed, such a theory (that life was assembled by an intelligence) is so obvious that one wonders why it is not widely accepted as being self-evident. The reasons are psychological rather than scientific. ''

Darwinism is BS, the entire evolution theory is full of errors..

If you are afraid of the possibilities of ET's, dont be on a forum site like this

[edit on 12-7-2009 by ChemBreather]



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 03:55 PM
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As you can see just by reading the SMALL amount of information here, you might begin to see how big this Lie and Coverup is.. The Conspiracy of all conspiracies...


Oh realy? All evolutionists conspire? Well then you reject your gods reality when you refuse to learn basic science, like evolution, and instead believe scripture written by men, who could have been lying.

We are the ones going out in nature to find out about your gods creation. All you do is obsess about a book from primitive times.

You shun creation when you wont even learn basic science so you can understand how your own god's creation works.

Look at old pictures of some species of dog compared to today. Tell me they havent evolved as a species. (dog breeding)





The Theory of Evolution will never become a law of science because it is wrought with errors. This is why it is called a theory, instead of a law.


Of course it will never become a law
Its a scientific theory, and always will be. Just like the theory of gravity always will be theory.

But the fact of gravity will still be a fact, just like the fact of evolution will continiue to be a fact, no matter what the theory says. See the theory of X and fact of X are 2 different things. Theories never ever become laws, ever.



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 03:59 PM
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I have yet to actually hear or see anyone prove the "God did it" theory. The fact that people are actually trying makes me sad....well, more confused than anything.



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 04:28 PM
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No comments on Darwin 'hanging' with the dudes at the 'lodge' ?
What will be more clear over time might be the undeniable proof of who made life here possible.

Knowing how a atom or gene works does not prove the millions of years of monkey be to man...

Dogs breeding will always breed dogs, not figuring that out without the need of some one tellling you that, shows one's capacity to think logical on your own...

You flat out fail to see the connection here, by creating this lie, wich obviously you guys buy into, can keep people from 'getting' the agenda at hand here. Sadly .

Like the swine flu now, the ones believing it is an virus from naturall selection, obviously take the vaccine willingly, be my guest.



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 05:04 PM
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So, if a man is religious , his theories and prof must be wrong ?
What is he wrong about ? he gets his stuff from around the world and in books that are official, but he dont explain it away with a dash of millions of years.

Faking skulls to prove a theory is fraud, and teaching it to children is also sick if you ask me...

Fossils do not take millions of years to form, it can happen very fast, all it takes is just some mud and apply pressure...

The scientists do not publish findings that do not fitt the 'legal' theory, like using ie. the c14 dating method that is in-correct to get dates on things found in the dirt is also ludacris.



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 05:56 PM
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Dogs breeding will always breed dogs


Erhh..? Well its kinda agreed upon already that dogs EVOLVED from Wolves
Genetic tests show that all dogs are descended from an Eurasian stock.

You think that populations change only by a little due to a barrier or limit that stops populations from diverging too much??

A barrier is the only thing that could explain microevolution occurring while macroevolution does not.

I assume you have evidence to show since you believe this.


[edit on 12-7-2009 by Daniem]



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 06:40 PM
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Why do all the people debating this issue think that all they have to do to prove their case is to poke holes in the other sides explanation? That's a very unscientific approach and maybe a bit childish to.

IMO both arguments for human development ( evolution and creationism ) don't work!



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 06:42 PM
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Then you must have a plausible 3rd scenario with the evidence to back it up.

Care to share?



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 06:43 PM
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Originally posted by ChemBreather


I personally don't trust any thing any governments have to say about how we came to be, cause it doesn't make sense, or even add up !!


Hardest part about lying, is to get the story straight !!




These are the greatest words you could EVER say in this thread! Throw away EVERYTHING you think about how life formed and YES my friend throw away your belief in Creationism.

Start from SCRATCH! Start from the beginning and work your way up all over again. Do not let yourself be biased by one side or the other. Take every piece of evidence into consideration.

I see you are willing to not only put Darwin's theories to the test (which is a GREAT part of Science you can challenge any theory or law) you are willing to put Darwin as a person to the test. Very good.

BUT

THIS IS IMPORTANT

You cannot allow yourself to be biased and NOT apply these same tactics to your own religious beliefs!

Challenge EVERYTHING that you thought you knew from the standpoint of Science!

Pure raw mother fooking SCIENCE!

Religion and creationism do not get a free ride oh no good Sir they MUST be subject to the same scrutiny and analysis.

As my favorite human being who ever lived once said a very long time ago in Ancient Iraq

"Therefore, the seeker after the truth is not one who studies the writings of the ancients and, following his natural disposition, puts his trust in them, but rather the one who suspects his faith in them and questions what he gathers from them, the one who submits to argument and demonstration, and not to the sayings of a human being whose nature is fraught with all kinds of imperfection and deficiency.
Thus the duty of the man who investigates the writings of scientists, if learning the truth is his goal, is to make himself an enemy of all that he reads, and, applying his mind to the core and margins of its content, attack it from every side.
He should also suspect himself as he performs his critical examination of it, so that he may avoid falling into either prejudice or leniency."

-Alhazen the inventor of the Scientific Method written somewhere between the year 900 and 1000 in what is now known as Basra Iraq.



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 06:44 PM
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And what is your opinion on how man came to be?



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 06:57 PM
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Originally posted by PieKeeper
reply to post by VitalOverdose
 


Then you must have a plausible 3rd scenario with the evidence to back it up.

Care to share?


This is exactly the sort of illogical thinking im talking about.. noticing that both theories have holes in them so large that neither of them are very plausible does not mean that i have to have a plausible alternative theory. Thats the sort of argument technique that children use. lol



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