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Originally posted by jibeho
Anyone remember Clinton's failed Luxury tax?? It was a complete disaster. The luxury boat industry tanked. Highly skilled craftsmen lost their jobs and companies closed their doors. The wealthy simply closed their wallets. Case closed.
If you keep hitting this population with "punitive taxes" the end result will be the same.
We are BOTH... I assume you are using a computer which is the result of hundreds of thousands of minds worth of time, energy and money. But that computer is yours
regardless of who invented it.
They worked together towards a common goal, our society is an extension of this.
I agree, throw out the corporations that make the "peoples rules" via influence, throw out the corrupted politicians and lets start over. But if you forgo the first step the second step will not work.
I didn't say any system could, what I think is that placing all of ones efforts towards
conserving power and amassing of money is exactly what we have been doing and it isn't working anymore.I see a different set of priorities. NONE OF US MAKE IT OUT ALIVE.
What is truly free in YOUR words??? What?
I am free right now, I could go get a glass of water or cap myself with the same amount of effort. I am just as pro people as you, but I think you see man made entities as people, once again it is INDIVIDUALS who assume the role of something larger.
But a company is not a person, can't kill em, feed em or talk to em.
I know, and I think you should consider the nature of modern big business and it ultimate effect on the peoples house...
you may be right... But I hope you don't assume that people enjoy being in such a position. Remember this downturn was initiated by private business gone WILD,
it was not the government or the people who forced them to over leverage and cook the books. They lobbied to repeal the GSA, succeeded and preceded to fook things up full steam ahead. The government sat on their knuckles and here we are...
But don't forget who influenced who to loosen restrictions and what ideology believes in such practices.
Originally posted by Hastobemoretolife
Atlas Shrugged is playing out in real life it seems. Sure it doesn't seem like that much on an increase, but it is the fact that taxes are getting increased on a certain segment of the population, which if I'm not mistaken is unconstitutional.
Looks like the Dem's are moving full steam ahead on their agenda of punishing the successful and rewarding the failures.
This is only going to make all of suffer more. When the people making decent money decide to cut back it is going to throw the market into a frenzy. Not the stock market but the goods and services market. :shk:
Originally posted by BigandRich
reply to post by Hastobemoretolife
YOU AMERICANS CRACK ME UP. yOU ALLOW YOUR GOVERNMET TO TAX THE DEATH OUT OF YOU AND BANKRUPT YOUR COUNTRY, BUT YOU STILL OK MR OBAMA AND YOUR GOVERNMENT TO KEEP SPENDING BILLIONS IN IRAQ AND AFGANHISTAN AND WHERE EVER TO PROTECT WHAT? WOULDN'T GETTING RID OF ALL NEWLY LANDED IMMIGRANTS AND PUTTING UP NO ENTRANCE BORDERS BE CHEAPER? STAND UP TO OBAMA AND TELL HIM TO GET ALL YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS OUT OF THE MIDDLE EAST BEFORE THEIR TIME IS UP AND THEY BECOME A STATISTIC OF HIS POWER RAGE LIKE BUSH.
Originally posted by marg6043
Exactly, Obama has increased government at a rate that put Bushes to shame in only 7 months of his reign.
How in the heck he is going to finance that unsustainable government budget if is now gouging everybody he can and while cutting salaries to support his well pay associates he surrounds himself with.