Avian and swine flu vaccines cause sterility and death, page 4
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reply posted on 12-7-2009 @ 08:00 PM by asIam
Anyone saying the vaccine doesn't exist yet should read the following
recent news release from the University of Queensland;
article



The University of Queensland has produced the first Australian batch of a new candidate vaccine against the H1N1 “swine flu” virus. Professor Anton Middelberg, from UQ's Australian Institute for Bioengineering and Nanotechnology, said the vaccine matched the virus found in the first US case of swine flu, a 10-year-old boy in San Diego. Professor Middelberg said the new technology, from US firm Protein Sciences Corporation (PSC), was able to produce vaccines more quickly than conventional methods based on eggs. “This vaccine has been produced using the latest cell culture vaccine technology from the US and contains no egg protein,” Professor Middelberg said. “We only received the genetic construct from PSC two weeks ago and we have been able to produce the vaccine already, which is an amazing achievement.”




reply posted on 12-7-2009 @ 08:39 PM by double_frick
pdf file 'horrors of vaccination'

written in 1920's, by a doctor higgins.

i read a book when deciding whether to vaccinate my daughter and now firmly believe the diseases were in decline and would have died off for reasons other than vaccines.

check this out...
*WARNING* graphic; horrifying
a hep b shot did that...and people think it should be mandatory?!

[edit on 7/12/2009 by double_frick]


reply posted on 12-7-2009 @ 08:41 PM by lostviking
I think I found the remedy Dr. Waterman couldn't state on his blog. The remedy is based on German homeopathy founded by Samuel Hahnemann. Dr. Z (Dr. Z Link) a proponent of pleosanum therapy states the following therapies are effective antivirals:

Clinically useful supplements and homeopathic remedies from Dr. Z include (from his website):



1. Pleo-Quent



German practitioners report that Pleo-Quent, known in Germany as Quentakehl, may be useful as supportive therapy to help alleviate the symptomatic effects of acute and latent viral infections.



2. Pleo-Not



Pleo Not, known in Germany as Notakehl 4X, homeopathic remedy by Sanum for the temporary relief of coughs, fever and congestion due to colds and minor respiratory infections, primarily of bacterial origin.



3. Thorne Vitamin A



Clinically, I personally find Vitamin A very useful in high dosages (up to 150,000 IU) for three days, when used at the onset of viral infections, such as the flu. It appears to reduce the symptoms and to shorten the course of such illness.



4. QC-Nasal Spray



QC Nasal Spray (homeopathic remedy, by Thorne, with Quercetin Chalcone 2x and Euphorbium 3x) may help relieve the sneezing, stuffy nose, nasal irritation, watery discharge, and headache caused by seasonal allergies. This unique homeopathic medicine goes right where your body needs it - the nasal mucosa.



It is for temporary relief of allergic rhinitis, inhalant allergies and all the related symptoms. Quercetin blocks histamine release

Anyone want to comment if I am on track?


reply posted on 12-7-2009 @ 09:07 PM by huntergatherer
reply to post by mikerussellus



WALMART stores will most likely be the distribution points for the poison.

Unless the stores are heavily armed or fortified.........well, you you know what to do......................


reply posted on 12-7-2009 @ 09:21 PM by audas
Pathetic thread - I have never read so much unrelated clap trap taped together in some incoherent manner based on profound ignorance with the ultimate consequence of endangering huge groups of children.

When will you people realise that vaccines such as polio, diphtheria, small pox, rubella, whooping cough and dozens of other major killers have been almost entirely eradicated due to vaccines. When will you get this through your thick skulls that millions upon millions of people died horrific deaths due to these revolting diseases.

In Australia significant numbers of Americans have been spreading the idea of not having immunisation - the result that young children are dying of whooping cough - these small children literally cough their insides out - all becuase ignorant stupid people peddle the clap trap as the original poster did.

How many of you ACTUALLY considered his points - he was raising irrelevant issues such as genetically modified wheat crops, UN sterlisation programmes, numerous ADMITTED rumours, and accused poland of deliberately killing people, accusing the government of some massive conspiracy on the back of a failed vaccine - how many surgical operations have failed and people have died ? Is Surgery some massive conspiracy to kill people ? Its genuinely intellectually retarded in the true sense of the word to have starred or flagged this thread - your blind responses cheering him on simply reflect a total lack of considered thought process and you simply cheered like sheep - a disgusting, disgusting disgusting thread - you people have an absolute OBLIGATION to consider all the facts on this as children are DYING every day due to people like you spreading absolute crap.



reply posted on 12-7-2009 @ 09:34 PM by mikerussellus
reply to post by audas




Fine. Lets argue the science. First, what background do you have in virology, pharmacology?

Or do you just blindly believe the tripe being regurgitated on the tv?

Do you know why we don't have a vaccine for the common cold?Because it mutates.

Now their telling us it WILL mutate but the current vaccine on stock will treat it?

It takes anywhere from 12 to 24 months to come up with a useable vaccine. But they had this in less than 6?

Yes, polio, et al have been eradicated through the prudent use of vaccination programs.
Can you see the difference between the two?

I am naturally cynical because I have spent years working in the pharmaceutical industry.

Can you say the same?


reply posted on 12-7-2009 @ 10:02 PM by lostviking
I think I solved the 'remedy' question. Apparently Dr. Waterman couldn't state the name of the company or product that he found to be very effective against various viruses, because the company owned by Dr. Z (Dr. Z is Dr. Peter W. Zeischegg) was sent a cease and desist letter from the FDA May 7, 2003. Read between the lines, the supplements found to be effective, if this letter is any indication, are:
Arabinex, Pleo-Quent, Pleo-Not, Im-Encap, and Ascorbic Acid Caps manufactured by German Homeopathy company Pleo. The items were listed on Dr. Z's website:
Dr. Z's .
It looks like originally the FDA warned Dr. Z about promoting a supplement as a SARS preventative. The letter can be found at:FDA Letter at Casewatch

Department of Health and Human Services Public Health Service
Food and Drug Administration


5100 Paint Branch Parkway
College Park, MD 20740


May 7, 2003

WARNING LETTER
VIA OVERNIGHT DELIVERY

Peter M. Zeischegg MS, DC
13288 Banner Lava Cap, #A
Nevada City, CA 95959

Dear Dr. Zieschegg:

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has reviewed your web site at the following address: www.drz.org. This review shows serious violations of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (the Act) in the labeling of your products Arabinex, Pleo-Quent, Pleo-Not, Im-Encap, and Ascorbic Acid Caps. You can find the Act and implementing regulations through links on FDA's Internet home page at www.fda.gov.

Under the Act, articles intended for use in the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment or prevention of disease in man are drugs [Section 201(g)(1)(B) of the Act]. Your web site claims that your products are useful in the prevention of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) as well as in the prevention and treatment of a number of other diseases. The labeling of your products bears the following claims:

Site: "SARS and your Immune System." "What can you do on a preventative basis?" ".. .how you can improve your immune function with specific emphasis on viral infection."

Arabinex: ".. .extremely useful in acute viral infections."

Pleo-Quent: "... useful for acute and latent viral infections such as laryngitis, bronchitis, sinusitis, flue-type infections, ear infections, fibromyalgia, migraines, vertigo, Meniere's Disease, Herpes Zoster, mumps, measles, chickenpox."

Pleo-Not: "..very useful to enhance the immune system, and for alleviating infections of bacterial origin such as staph, strep, acne, ear infections, tonsil infections, sore throat, neuritis, neuralgis, urinary tract infections, prostate irritation, respiratory infections. Great for sick children."

Im-Encap: "strong antiviral and antibacterial properties"

These claims, particularly the references to specific diseases, cause your products to be drugs, as defined in section 201(g)(1)(B) of the Act. Because the products are not generally recognized as safe and effective when used as labeled, they are also new drugs as defined in section 201(P) of the Act. Under section 505 of the Act, a new drug may not be legally marketed in the United States without an approved New Drug Application (NDA). These drugs are also misbranded within the meaning of section 502(a) of the Act because their labeling is false and misleading in that it suggests that these drugs are effective for the prevention of SARS and the other named diseases, when, in fact, these claims are not supported by reliable scientific' evidence. These drugs are also misbranded within the meaning of section 502(f)(1) of the Act, in that the labeling for these drugs fails to bear adequate directions for use.

The above violations are not meant to be an all-inclusive list of deficiencies in your products and their labeling. It is your responsibility to ensure that products marketed by your firm comply with the Act and its implementing regulations.

The Act authorizes the seizure of illegal products and injunctions against manufacturers and distributors of those products. You should take prompt action to correct these deviations and prevent their future recurrence. Failure to do so may result in enforcement action without further notice.

Please advise this office, in writing and within fifteen (15) working days of the receipt of this letter, as to the specific steps you have taken to correct the violations noted above and to assure that similar violations do not occur. If corrective actions cannot be completed within fifteen working days, state the reason for the delay and the time within which the corrections will be completed.

Your reply should be addressed to Compliance Officer Jennifer Thomas at the above address.

Sincerely,

/s/

Joseph R. Baca
Director
Office of Compliance
Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition

This page was posted on July 9, 2005


reply posted on 12-7-2009 @ 10:09 PM by liveandlearn
reply to post by Studenofhistory




2.Approximately 3500 Chinese children died in an Avian Flu vaccine experiment. (Rumor, 200

3. The Philippine High Court convicted WHO (The World Health Organization) of involuntarily sterilizing over 3 million Philippina women through the use of vaccines. (Fact)

4. The WHO in 1985 documented that one of its’ primary goals for the use of a sterility vaccine disguised as a smallpox vaccine was to “eliminate 150 million excess Sub Saharan Africans”. (Fact, 1985-ongoing)

5. The WHO 5-shot vaccine programs for tetanus in third world countries in South and Central America caused the involuntary sterilization of millions of women. (Fact, ongoing)

6. Monsanto’s MON 810 corn causes sterility according to studies published by the Austrian Government. (Fact, 2009)

7. Monsanto’s MON 810 corn contains the Cauliflower Mosaic Virus which, when ingested, lowers the bodies CD 4 cells to a point which, on immune tests, indicate that a person has HIV/AIDS. The lowered CD 4 cells results from eating GMO corn, the staple of the diet in many parts of Black Africa. MON 810 is grown in Europe for animal feed and in many places, including the US, around the world for human food. (Fact, ongoing)


Regarding number 2. You should not post a rumor under a post that you are calling facts. It is only a fact that it is a rumor. To me this causes everything else to become suspect.

Regarding number 3-5

This is a leap. If this is true it has nothing to do with the swine flu vaccine. If anything this shows that TPTB will be more selective in their population control but I may be wrong.

Number 6 and 7 Again, a leap. What does corn have to do with the flu vaccine?

You stated it would cause death and sterility.

I am not an advocate of the flu vaccine and have no intention of taking it.

Most countries do not have an electronic record system (and I can assure you in the US it will take a few years) nor do they have anywhere near the manpower to run down everyone who didn't happen to get the shot at their Dr's.

In the US you can get the vaccine from your private physician, the hospital down to a drug store and supermarket. No one is going to run down where you say you got the flu shot. They may call it mandatory in the hopes all will take it but, at least this year, there is no way they will be able to keep up with everyone.

If you don't want to take it, as I don't, then just don't take. If they show up at the door tell them you got
it at the supermarket or wherever.

How are they going to track indigents on the street? Mandatory is just a word right now that they can not enforce.

[edit on 12-7-2009 by liveandlearn]


reply posted on 12-7-2009 @ 10:21 PM by huntergatherer
reply to post by liveandlearn



Once the media scares the hell out of the sheeple and a false flag of some sorts is unleashed it will be mass panic to get the shot.

Mandatory for most will not matter
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