Timothy McVeigh Deserves a Statue of Honor, page 5
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reply posted on 12-7-2009 @ 04:02 PM by TurkeyBurgers
reply to post by GorehoundLarry


I do have to say that when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor it was a Military hard target.

But

They did random aerial bombing with balloons against the U.S.

But

I believe that the attacks were largely infective.

We did not nuke the military bases.

We vaporized the civilian cities.

That is pretty freaking hardcore.

Then again is was a war in Europe of mass carpet bombing that we were used to fighting between all sides using random artillery strikes against cities and aerial bombardment against cities.

It was a type of military combat we were used to fighting with Germany
and it's allies in Europe for some time.

It did not take very much for us to apply that same strategy to Japan.

BUT

Judging from the attacks that the Japanese used on the Chinese during that same era we can lend no leniency towards Japan being civilized in war and only attacking military targets. They raped the living crap out of the Chinese. They slaughtered them man woman and child.

Japan was not innocent. They were pretty savage.

The ruling this judge hands down is the Nukes were acceptable.


reply posted on 12-7-2009 @ 04:18 PM by projectvxn
reply to post by squidboy


I just think threads like these give the good work we do on ATS a bad name. There is a HUGE archive of valid and credible information on ATS provided by its users. Idiotic threads like these cast a shadow upon those efforts, as it is these stupid threads that other places LIKE NEWS SITES use to characterize the contributors of ATS.


reply posted on 12-7-2009 @ 04:29 PM by laura petrie
Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by squidboy


I just think threads like these give the good work we do on ATS a bad name. There is a HUGE archive of valid and credible information on ATS provided by its users. Idiotic threads like these cast a shadow upon those efforts, as it is these stupid threads that other places LIKE NEWS SITES use to characterize the contributors of ATS.



Maybe these threads can be looked at in another light. They serve to expose the hate and ignorance and label it for what it is.
Most replies in this thread condemn McVeigh and disagree with the original poster, a fact that speaks a lot about people on ATS.
Yes, the title of the thread can be used to paint ATS in certain light, you are right about that, but anyone reading further down the thread will see what ATSers truly think.



reply posted on 12-7-2009 @ 04:33 PM by projectvxn
reply to post by laura petrie


I thought that too, until:

You know what I found out about what people do and don't read? Most people read the title of a thread or article and assume they have the idea of the thread down.

I'm a member of deviantART.com. I posted a thread about Goldman Sachs and the systemic risk they pose, as well as their dubious revolving door tactics in government, and I was called an anti-Semite. No one actually read the information in the thread, they just read the word "Goldman" and assumed I was attacking Jews. Now this is more a reflection of their world view than it is mine, but the fact still stands, most people won't scroll down far enough.

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reply posted on 12-7-2009 @ 05:37 PM by skyeyes

But, how do you or anyone else know the outcome if the bombings didn't occur? How do you know that is why Japan surrendered? Maybe it was because USSR declared war with Japan. A lot of what I've read indicates Japan was already pretty much defeated and was about to look for peace through USSR. Many people believe the bombings were not necessary.
reply to post by Nickmare


How do you know that they weren't ready fight to the death?!?! They already had killed hundreds with their "Kamikaze" pilots. A lot of what you read indicates?????? Don't believe everything you read, nothing is truth until it happens. People that write those things can speculate all they want. Bombing Japans military targets would have meant nothing to them. Their military was almost non-existant, yet they still did not surrender. They knew the end was near, but they continued to fight on. I think that the problem lye within the Japanese warrior code that most of these soldiers had taken with them into battle. It is highly probable that it was the reason for the refusal to surrender.

Anyway we're off topic so I'll not reply on WW2 after this post.


reply posted on 12-7-2009 @ 05:46 PM by Jadette
reply to post by projectvxn


I couldn't agree more. And what we really should do, is simply ignore the threads, and have no one reply and not feed into this.


reply posted on 12-7-2009 @ 05:51 PM by Cito
Originally posted by Jadette
reply to post by projectvxn


I couldn't agree more. And what we really should do, is simply ignore the threads, and have no one reply and not feed into this.


Yet people keep using this excuse to post trolls against those that you disagree with, people use this same line in every forum to post an opposing view rudely by using veiled doublespeak.

Instead of even posting that people shouldnt post, don't post at all, dont even read the thread. Leave this thread for those that wish to discuss the topics and support parts that we do support that the man was for, such as exposing government lies about waco and ruby ridge in which i support Tim McVeigh 100% but his bombing that he done I do not support at all.
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