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Originally posted by FraternitasSaturni
Oh my god... another thread on homosexuality!
Look for me you can be gay all you want, just stop imposing that idea and stop forcing people to accept you.
I dont force people do accept me. Either ppl like me the way I am or they dont. The whole world DOES NOT have to like me, the way I am or the way I think and I dont care, hey you cant be loved by both Greeks and Trojans.
There will always be people that hate you no matter what reason. You can be hated for wearing a stupid light blue tuxedo, you can be hated for being black, or for NOT being black. You can be hated for an endless number of reasons... why do you care?
Now for gays... I respect the "normal" gay. That is simply a "gay man". I have 2 gay friends from whom I never hided my "opinion" and they respect my opinion as I respect theirs. They know I find it weird, that I dont think its "natural" still we are friends altho we dont agree on everything. The same with football, we are fans from different teams but still we understand eachother's choice and dont try to impose our "choice" to the other. They dont want to be accepted as gay! They simply are and thats it... they dont care if I like it or not its their choice and they want to be happy with the ones they love and respect my opinion.
I know that I will never see them in some "parade" or "movement" cause they have nothing to prove or to desperately being accepted by society. They're not activists! They're gay and thats enough for them... they dont need to shove it down everyother people's throats.
Do I make an heterosexual movement or parade? No... I dont care.
Now that kind of gay gets my respect because they know that you cant create heaven and earth in a day and it takes time, meanwhile they do go on with their lives and are happy that way.
Now... activists forcing people to accept them just make people react in a much more violent way against it. I dont like being forced to do anything against my own will. I dont care if you're gay, I care if you go through me in your tongs and kenny G hair, rollerblading with all those movements "I'm free, I'm gay, look at my gayness, I'm so free, free" - like a known comediant said - because that disgusts me.
Stop making parades, stop forcing people to accept you. People which you dont know and you shouldnt care. If you are accepted by the ones you love and the ones that love you, what else matters?!
All those activisms and parades and whatever its just a risk to have a not-wanted hated backlash cause face it. Some people hate you because you're gay and will always do! Do you really need their approval? Damn I'm hated for having a convertible, or for going out with a hot chick AND the convertible. Who cares?!
Learn to be yourselves without the oh-so-needed consent from others. People will never change. And maybe if you respect their right to think you are not natural, people will respect you back for it.
Originally posted by octaviameister
Hmm, I do not remember seeing anti-gay stuff in ATS? I will take your word for it and agree, there should not be any type of "hate" post, rather it be against Gays, Christians or some other group.
As far as acceptance, I have no idea why people "hate" so much. Especially Gays, it has never made any sense to me why hetro men get so upset with Gays. I think those who "hate" Gays are probably gay themselves, hidden deep inside them, and they never get these feelings out.
I fully support Gays and I wish the best for you!
Thank you for your post!
I teach them what we believe about the behavior and about the diseases, health issues, depression issues, that accompany that lifestyle and I tell them that people are choosing to live this way. Just like people choose to smoke, do drugs, live in destructive ways.
Originally posted by watchtheashes
Being a stylish person and wearing female pants to go with it is one thing but homosexuality is actually looked down upon by Old Testament Law which Jesus also says to keep the Law of Moses and the prophets of old. That's the final authority.
Originally posted by Dontmakemebethe1
I understand what the original poster wants to convey in this message but I believe our diversity is what will stand in the way of everyone agreeing (yeah I know that is understated). I am appreciative that I can live in a country that allows people to choose NOT to agree that homosexuality doesn't have to be a way of life. I am very uncomfortable when I see homosexual couples "out" in public. I am a Christian Conservative person and I agree that the behavior is unacceptable in my "religion". But Jesus never said to hate the sinner. So...when my kids are with me and we witness these things (they are happening in my family) I do use it as a teaching time. I teach them what we believe about the behavior and about the diseases, health issues, depression issues, that accompany that lifestyle and I tell them that people are choosing to live this way. Just like people choose to smoke, do drugs, live in destructive ways. I also tell them that love is a verb and we can choose to love someone that is heterosexually different that us. No matter what our sexual "urges" may be someday, that doesn't mean that we have to choose to act on them. So, my kids know that they should never be ugly or unnaccepting of humans, but they don't have to EVER be comfortable seeing homosexual displays of affection. When we see something we are uncomfortable with, we pray for the person we see...not loudly, but privately. We pray that they learn to live in a way that is what they were created for. So, we love that person even if we dont' agree with their behavior. I hope that people pray for us when we exhibit behavior that is unbecoming of a Christian person as well. (because we are often just as guilty as anyone else in this world and need forgiveness and help.)
Originally posted by octaviameister
reply to post by jeasahtheseer
I agree with you 100%. While I claim to be Christian, I do not belong to any church, the hypocrisy is just too much, rather it be their prejudice against Gays or the extreme hypocrisy many Christians have.
What ever happened to " Turn The Other Cheek"?
What ever happened to "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets." (the Golden Rule).
Whatever happened to "Love the Sinner, hate the Sin".
Whatever happened to "Thou shalt not kill" ? As the Christians support slaughtering millions of brown skinned innocent women and children. Oh, don't worry about that minor detail, we worry about if someone is Gay or Straight.
I am sick of the hypocrites who continually judge others, the ones being judged who just want to be peaceful and love the one their with, rather it be a man or woman. What is wrong with that?
Originally posted by KrazyJethro
Originally posted by romanmel
Quoting scripture insults those who are religious. If there is a non-gay out there you haven't insulted by now, I'd be shocked. So what IS your goal?
If quoting scripture is an insult to those who are religious, I'd say it would mainly be because it's either out of context (which is universally done by any side of any debate that it touches) or because it violates that persons personal safety bubble (meaning it might actually challenge their beliefs using a source they espouse)...
Sorry, I should have been more descriptive in my point on scripture quoting. I should havew said:
Quoting and twisting scripture to imply Devine acceptance of gay men's burning desires for attacking another man's anal cavity, insults those who are religious. If there is a non-gay out there you haven't insulted by now, I'd be shocked. So what IS your goal?
Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
reply to post by RRconservative
I only have time for one post before work, so this is the one. You are incorrect. YOU have the right to marry someone you LOVE! To marry someone you do not love truly IS making a mockery of the institution of marriage. YOU have the right to serve openly in the military. It most certainly IS a civil rights question!