I don't care if people are gay. I just don't like it when they hit on me, and don't know how to take a hint.
I live in the bay area, and when I go to San Fran, it's a given you will be amongst some gay people. It doesn't bother me at all, it's none of my
business.
But I get so sick and tired of being at a club or something, and they just "happen" to keep bumping into you, even though you are 6'3 and 250lbs
and your friends use you as a beacon and place saver because you can be guaranteed 4 feet of open area behind that person because nobody can see over
them.
I've had to get a bit rude to some people more than a few times. Not like name calling, just letting them know that the next time they bump into
me, it will be the last time they do it.
"hey, hey, hey man"
"GO AWAY"
"Hey man"
GO AWAY"
"Hey man"
"If you touch me one more time..."
I understand how woman feel. And it doesn't even matter if you are there with a girl, they still do it! "Hey, don't I know you". "Nope,
don't think so...".
[edit on 7/11/2009 by badmedia]
A notice to those who oppose or have a problem with the Gay Rights Movement, page 1
privacy
Topic started on 11-7-2009 @ 06:48 PM by JaxonRoberts
I posted this earlier on another thread, but I felt that it deserved a thread of it's own. Hopefully those who are opposed to homosexuals and
homosexuality will take a moment to contemplate these words before posting the same old tired arguments and hateful rhetoric the next time someone
posts another 'Gays in the news' thread.
My first point is to those who have a problem with homosexuals exchanging signs of affection in public, be it holding hands or a simple innocent kiss. While I agree that making out in public is unacceptable by anyone, simple exchanges of affection, like those commonly exchanged by heterosexual couples should be.
For those who object to it because your children might see it, eventually they will be exposed to it, and probably when you are not around. You are also missing a golden opportunity to teach your child(ren) something very valuable. If it comes up, simply tell your child(ren), "Well, some people like girls and some people like boys, just like some people are one religion and others belong to a different religion. Some people are black and others are white or asian or latino. Some people like rock music and some people like country music. Everybody is different, just like snow flakes. No two people are exactly alike, they are all different, special and unique, just like you!" Not only have you simply explained the situation, but you have begun to instill in your child(ren) their own individuality and that they need not conform to the will of others. Perhaps they will remember this important message when their peers try to coerse them into trying drugs or when they are pressured into having sex before they are ready.
To those who object to homosexual behavior due to their religious beliefs (mainly Christians as I've seen you in the religious threads), I would remind you that Jesus gave you only two commandments:
Mark 12; verses 29-31
I would also add:
Luke 6: 37
All words atributed to Jesus himself. If you are truly a Christian, then these words out trump any others from the Bible, as you should have a duty to follow the words spoken by Jesus himself before all others in the Bible.
To those who wish to legislate us away, remember that this country was founded on the rights and freedoms of the individual, not only that of the majority. Do you remember these words?
The Declaration of Independence
No one in the Gay Rights Movement is asking for special rights, just equal rights. Each and every citizen should have exactly the same rights as every other citizen.
For those who oppose gay marriage, you are right, marriage is not a right, nor is it a privilege. As far as the state is concerned, it is a legal contract between two consenting adults. If it were not a legal contract, it would not require a lawyer and a judge to get out of it. Every citizen should have the right to enter into a contract that is allowed to be entered into by other citizens. I have a tee-shirt that sums this up perfectly: "Don't like Gay Marriage? Don't marry one!"
For those who 'just don't like it', then don't look! There used to be this concept in this country before the advent of mass media, it was called minding your own business! Again, I state that overt sexual displays are completely inappropriate in public, regardless of sexual orientation, but simple harmless displays of affection are not in this category.
For those who like to ass-U-me (remember the saying?) that all homosexuals are the 'in your face' prissy queens that are usually portrayed in the mass media, I hate to inform you that most of us are not. There are extremists in every group, but to assume (again, that word) that we are all just like the stereotype is a false assumption. We do not all own feather boas, listen to disco and show tunes (I LOATHE both forms of music!) and prance around in 6 inch pumps!
For those who think that homosexuality is a sexual deviance, or a mental disorder, those with the education in the field do not agree. I think they are far more qualified to make that determination than you are. Being gay isn't just about sex. It's about who you love and want to build a life with. In fact, I know quite a few older gay couples who have been together for decades, deeply love each other, have built a life together and rarely have sex. This is just the same as heterosexual couples, as we get older the sex drive slows down to a crawl. If it were only a sexual deviance, then they would no longer stay together. You want to make us different, but except for the choice of partners, we are the same. Maybe that's what scares you so much.
For those who wish we would just go back into the closet, I'm afraid I have some very bad news for you! NEVER GONNA HAPPEN! There is no turning back now. We're here, we're Queer, and we're not going anywhere! If you want the Gay Rights Movement to end, then there is a simple solution, just give us our equal rights! Otherwise you have two choices: Like it, or die HATING it!!!
Here's a list of Famous Homosexuals throughout history.
I leave you with just one more thing to mull over:
Paul McCartney & Wings: Live & Let Die (Main Theme for James Bond movie of the same name)
My first point is to those who have a problem with homosexuals exchanging signs of affection in public, be it holding hands or a simple innocent kiss. While I agree that making out in public is unacceptable by anyone, simple exchanges of affection, like those commonly exchanged by heterosexual couples should be.
For those who object to it because your children might see it, eventually they will be exposed to it, and probably when you are not around. You are also missing a golden opportunity to teach your child(ren) something very valuable. If it comes up, simply tell your child(ren), "Well, some people like girls and some people like boys, just like some people are one religion and others belong to a different religion. Some people are black and others are white or asian or latino. Some people like rock music and some people like country music. Everybody is different, just like snow flakes. No two people are exactly alike, they are all different, special and unique, just like you!" Not only have you simply explained the situation, but you have begun to instill in your child(ren) their own individuality and that they need not conform to the will of others. Perhaps they will remember this important message when their peers try to coerse them into trying drugs or when they are pressured into having sex before they are ready.
To those who object to homosexual behavior due to their religious beliefs (mainly Christians as I've seen you in the religious threads), I would remind you that Jesus gave you only two commandments:
29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: 30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. 31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
Mark 12; verses 29-31
I would also add:
37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven
Luke 6: 37
All words atributed to Jesus himself. If you are truly a Christian, then these words out trump any others from the Bible, as you should have a duty to follow the words spoken by Jesus himself before all others in the Bible.
To those who wish to legislate us away, remember that this country was founded on the rights and freedoms of the individual, not only that of the majority. Do you remember these words?
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
The Declaration of Independence
No one in the Gay Rights Movement is asking for special rights, just equal rights. Each and every citizen should have exactly the same rights as every other citizen.
For those who oppose gay marriage, you are right, marriage is not a right, nor is it a privilege. As far as the state is concerned, it is a legal contract between two consenting adults. If it were not a legal contract, it would not require a lawyer and a judge to get out of it. Every citizen should have the right to enter into a contract that is allowed to be entered into by other citizens. I have a tee-shirt that sums this up perfectly: "Don't like Gay Marriage? Don't marry one!"
For those who 'just don't like it', then don't look! There used to be this concept in this country before the advent of mass media, it was called minding your own business! Again, I state that overt sexual displays are completely inappropriate in public, regardless of sexual orientation, but simple harmless displays of affection are not in this category.
For those who like to ass-U-me (remember the saying?) that all homosexuals are the 'in your face' prissy queens that are usually portrayed in the mass media, I hate to inform you that most of us are not. There are extremists in every group, but to assume (again, that word) that we are all just like the stereotype is a false assumption. We do not all own feather boas, listen to disco and show tunes (I LOATHE both forms of music!) and prance around in 6 inch pumps!
For those who think that homosexuality is a sexual deviance, or a mental disorder, those with the education in the field do not agree. I think they are far more qualified to make that determination than you are. Being gay isn't just about sex. It's about who you love and want to build a life with. In fact, I know quite a few older gay couples who have been together for decades, deeply love each other, have built a life together and rarely have sex. This is just the same as heterosexual couples, as we get older the sex drive slows down to a crawl. If it were only a sexual deviance, then they would no longer stay together. You want to make us different, but except for the choice of partners, we are the same. Maybe that's what scares you so much.
For those who wish we would just go back into the closet, I'm afraid I have some very bad news for you! NEVER GONNA HAPPEN! There is no turning back now. We're here, we're Queer, and we're not going anywhere! If you want the Gay Rights Movement to end, then there is a simple solution, just give us our equal rights! Otherwise you have two choices: Like it, or die HATING it!!!
Here's a list of Famous Homosexuals throughout history.
I leave you with just one more thing to mull over:
When you were young and your heart was an open book
You used to say life and let life
(you know you did, you know you did, you know you did)
But in this ever changing world in which we live in
Makes you give in and cry
Say live and let die
Paul McCartney & Wings: Live & Let Die (Main Theme for James Bond movie of the same name)
reply posted on 11-7-2009 @ 07:03 PM by JaxonRoberts
reply to post by badmedia
OK, I have to agree with you there. That is just wrong! I have faced the same problem, only reversed. I go out to a Gay bar, and some woman starts hitting on me, telling me how she can 'turn me straight' and won't take NO for an answer!
It's just disrespectful to keep trying!
I don't know what to tell you, other than it's wrong. Maybe just tell them, "I'm not gay and even if I was, I woundn't do YOU!" I can't
guarantee that it will work, but I have a feeling that it will! 
OK, I have to agree with you there. That is just wrong! I have faced the same problem, only reversed. I go out to a Gay bar, and some woman starts hitting on me, telling me how she can 'turn me straight' and won't take NO for an answer!
It's just disrespectful to keep trying!
I don't know what to tell you, other than it's wrong. Maybe just tell them, "I'm not gay and even if I was, I woundn't do YOU!" I can't
guarantee that it will work, but I have a feeling that it will! reply posted on 11-7-2009 @ 07:09 PM by argentus
reply to post by badmedia
I used to live in the Bay Area. We used to spend every Halloween at the blocked-off streets of the Castro. Last time was before we moved here in 1994 -- m'Bride was an English judge and I was an executioner. Do you know the police took away my lil' plastic axe?
I'm sorry you had adverse experiences. I've never had any males bump into me "accidentally" that I can recall, nor any inapporpriate touching. You must be significantly cuter than I am
OR, perhaps I just didn't notice. Also, we rarely went to dance clubs...... even way back then I didn't care for hundreds of people packed into a small space.
I used to live in the Bay Area. We used to spend every Halloween at the blocked-off streets of the Castro. Last time was before we moved here in 1994 -- m'Bride was an English judge and I was an executioner. Do you know the police took away my lil' plastic axe?
I'm sorry you had adverse experiences. I've never had any males bump into me "accidentally" that I can recall, nor any inapporpriate touching. You must be significantly cuter than I am
OR, perhaps I just didn't notice. Also, we rarely went to dance clubs...... even way back then I didn't care for hundreds of people packed into a small space.
reply posted on 11-7-2009 @ 07:37 PM by JaxonRoberts
reply to post by OhZone
I agree. There is a segment of our population who are definitely over the top! I have been known to tell them to 'grow a pair', but alas I fear that they will always be there! That is part of why I posted this thread. To let people know that we are not all like that. I would point out that women who dress like three dollar hookers are the equivalent on your side of the fence. We all have the 'lunatic fringe', but none of us should be judged by those types!
I agree. There is a segment of our population who are definitely over the top! I have been known to tell them to 'grow a pair', but alas I fear that they will always be there! That is part of why I posted this thread. To let people know that we are not all like that. I would point out that women who dress like three dollar hookers are the equivalent on your side of the fence. We all have the 'lunatic fringe', but none of us should be judged by those types!
reply posted on 11-7-2009 @ 08:02 PM by JaxonRoberts
reply to post by walsbg22
Civil marriage is what is being requested. The benefits and obligations should be exactly the same. I personally don't care what you call it, as long as it's the same for everyone. As to the history of the 'institution', it predates recorded history and any religion currently practiced on Earth. It 'belongs' to no one and everyone.
Civil marriage is what is being requested. The benefits and obligations should be exactly the same. I personally don't care what you call it, as long as it's the same for everyone. As to the history of the 'institution', it predates recorded history and any religion currently practiced on Earth. It 'belongs' to no one and everyone.
reply posted on 11-7-2009 @ 08:06 PM by jd140
reply to post by TurkeyBurgers
My first marriage was performed by the justice of the peace.
No church for me. I don't know where you got the idea people are being forced to perform a "marriage ritual" in a church.
A church wedding is optional, that is why you have to pay to have it done.
My first marriage was performed by the justice of the peace.
No church for me. I don't know where you got the idea people are being forced to perform a "marriage ritual" in a church.
A church wedding is optional, that is why you have to pay to have it done.
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