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Palin Hints At Independent Conservative Movement

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posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 02:12 PM
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reply to post by JulieMills
 


No, I never supporter him in the forums, I even disagree openly with his choice of government.

And I never posted who I was voting for until elections where done with.

I choose to do that, the same way that I have not problem now bashing Obama the same way I bashed Bush, and I voted for both of them.

Bush in 2000 and for Obama in the last election.

They fool me once, fool me two times but is not going to be a third time.




posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 02:24 PM
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Originally posted by Hastobemoretolife


We really haven't seen Palin on her own, all we have is the constant vile rage from the left about her.


I think we saw Gov. Palin on her own in her "cut and run" speech when she bailed on the people of Alaska that elected her for a full term, don't you?

If that is any indication of her future behavior; she won't be able to garner enough support for a third party to even put together a complete volleyball team.

My mother a Baptist, Right wing, conservative from Lubbock thinks Gov. Palin is a GOOFY Yankee.


No, any third party to break away from the GOP needs to be lead by a Southerner. You betcha!



[edit on 12-7-2009 by whaaa]



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 02:33 PM
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Palin / Bachmann 2012



Ron Paul Treasurer 2012 (Hopefully no Fed by then!)



[edit on 7/12/2009 by Hx3_1963]



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by Hemisphere
 


How about the man that made the words chance and hope make him into a god like figure.

That is what we say when we elected the first black president in the history of this nation.

But beside been a "community leader" he had nothing else but false hope and lies.

American politics are broken corrupted and dirty and any body including "Palin" knows that and to cash on the merry go around while serving and kissing up to the masters she will.

She is not better than any other corrupted politician in the nation.

Can somebody give an honest man name ? how about a woman specially those that chose politics as a way of life



Woah Margie, calm down. You're among friends here, at least I think so.
They all preach change we know. Otherwise what would be the point in
picking someone new? We are dissatisfied with the old and so we spin
the wheel once more. Is it a game we have little or no control over?
More than likely yes. I was fortunate to not vote for either Bush or Obama,
I haven't voted for either parties chosen one since.... was it Nixon? Yikes!!!
Talk about your once bitten twice shy!

I voted for Barr this time around and he got whipped like a rented mule.
Of course I considered that when voting, I just couldn't pull the lever for a foreigner.
Whatever Barr had going for him he didn't have the recognition. I think that with a Palin
you have that. Like they say "There is no bad press. Bad press is better than no press."
She certainly had the press. And most of the press didn't like her and maybe that's a good sign.

Even if she presses from now until 2012 she will not be ready. Who would?
The current guy isn't ready the last guy wasn't. They're all jumping in the
deep end of the pool. I think she has a more pragmatic outlook than BO.
He pushes through his agenda the people be damned. I think you can work
toward the future without s***canning the present. I think we're going
downhill fast with no brakes. She might not be the answer either but we're
gonna spin the wheel for someone other than BO in 2012. Just my opinion.



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by Hastobemoretolife
reply to post by DarkSecret
 


I guess you missed the part where we don't even know if she will be running? She never said anything about running for any office she is just going to start a new party. I guess you just completely missed those parts in my statement.

Edit to add - That is also her opinion on abortion, but she said it should be a state issue.

So please add something intelligent to the thread instead of left talking points that aren't even true.


if she starts her own party it's fair to assume her ideas will be a big part of its platform. i don't think it's "left talking points" that i'm quoting. the republicans don't want her as their 2012 candidate because they know the centrists and independents won't go for her. it's that simple. if that's "left talking points" then fine with me.



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 02:48 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
With the fiasco that Obama the man of change, transparency and for the people has done to the American voter.

I am pretty sure that no candidate for now on will be able to lie anymore to the American people as they were able to do.

The fat rats of corruption now has shown their true colors, power corrupt the best.

Palin is not exempt no even with the virgin Mary image in her background of mother Teresa picture, even when we know that Obama god like comparison did work for him.



I know is very gullible people out there but darn I hope they are few and scarce after all the crap that has befallen on this nation.


i think Obama may have had good intentions at first but then he got his first post-election intelligence briefing. he's a smart guy and a good politicians so he knows what's best for him. and he started slowly transforming into Lord Vader. i think whoever becomes prez will always end up being trapped between good intentions and reality.



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 02:49 PM
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I think Palin could win as an Independent candidate..or as her own party.
This is why.

1. Americans are fed up with dems and reps.
2. She is fairly well spoken and has a down to earth demeanor that is attractive to the mass public.
3. She is a woman and some find her attractive. I dont find her attractive because that accent and whiny tone cuts through my spinal cord.

4. The majority of Americans are idiots and if she gets them stirred up they will vote for her. Just like they did for Obama.
5. She actually has a sellable message. Less government, more freedom, the whole government is f'ed up, go back to the old school way of doing stuff, etc.. I could see that being appealing after Obama gets done raping us for 3 more years and the republicans are all worrying about not offending the religious right while they keep getting busted slipping it to whatever woman they meet along the way.



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 02:53 PM
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She wants to start another conservative party? Is it because she doesn't fit anywhere? The conservatives/liberals/libertarians, etc. don't want her.

My two cents is that I would be shocked at anyone who votes for someone who resigns from an office the people voted her into because it wasn't important enough a position for her and she needed to pull away from being governor so she could concentrate solely on becoming POTUS.

I think that should easily show Sarah Palin's loyalty to her supporters. She's only loyal to her own desires to further her political career. Being the governor of Alaska was small pickles for her. She wants to be recognized on the national scene.

It's not about being a civil servant for her (like many others). It's about being a political celebrity. She got a taste of the "big time" and like someone who used to eat nothing but hot dogs gets their first taste of a juicy steak, when they eat a hot dog after that it tastes like you-know-what in comparison.



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 03:02 PM
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But you have to look at how she can spin this later. She could say i quit my job to focus on this because I love the american people and i know that we need to point this government in a new direction and so i needed to focus all my energy on that. It is all in the spin. Never underestimate a good politician.



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 03:16 PM
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Im not sure that another party started by Palin would interest me. During the election she seemed way to far to the right for me, and neo-christian is not the way I think the country needs to go.

Granted, I think the country will swing towards the right after Obama... but I don't think its gonna swing that far to the right...

[edit on 12-7-2009 by XTexan]



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 03:19 PM
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That's what's already happening. Some of the minor parties swap members with the majors every few years. The rest of the minor parties are basically different types of socialist parties.

Ron Paul didn't start out as a Republican.



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 03:27 PM
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Don't worry I am not trying to scare you, I was just making a statement, sorry if it sound kind of harsh.

reply to post by DarkSecret
 


Honestly I feel the same, because that one day, just that day that Obama was emerging from his briefing on the nations affairs his face was telling a story he looked defeated after the big win,

I think that one day Obama found who really hold the power and it was not him.



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 03:35 PM
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The way Obama is crumbling America, anyone can win.
Once the Bots see that all the promises were in fact lies, that their children will have nothing and have to pay a major debt, this idea may not look so "dumb." People wanted change, and got the same old garbage.
This lady, may actually bring some reality back.



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 03:46 PM
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Regarding Palin leaving her current position, I don't think that's such a bad thing. She was elected to see through a number of things and I think she likely has done that and her lieutenant gov. is on the same page. He'll be able to continue whatever initiatives were in the works without the distractions. Do you hear Alaskans screaming for his or her head? I haven't.

We've seen Palin is still hounded like a vice presidential candidate. I can imagine it's a distraction from her current position and responsibilities. She's not leaving her state in the lurch, there are provisions. What would have happened if she were vice president? The same thing, no longer gov of Alaska. And from what we've seen she's leaving the governors' office without a Blagojevich style hood responsible for choosing her successor. I think she's been extremely responsive and responsible. Things might be uncovered that change my opinion but for now no harm no foul.

What happened to Obama's senate seat while he was running? I dare say he was distracted from his elected responsibilities. They all go through it. McCain, Obama, Clinton, Paul, they all had elected responsibilities. This one chose the road not taken. Right now she has no control over what happens to the rest of us, why worry? Time will tell folks. Follow the story, let it play out and be ready to respond when it means something.



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 03:46 PM
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You have not learned a thing at all, read my lips, I have been a voter since the seventies,

Is not such thing as an honest politician in this nation since government has been taken over by private interest and the ruling elite.

Palin just want a piece of the pie like all the corrupted power seekers out there.




posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 03:48 PM
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I think some people are getting it confused as to why she resigned as Gov. She resigned because her family was taking a lot of flak from the left media for it.

In fact that is part of what was in her speech when she resigned. She also mentioned how the legal bills were racking up due to her having to defend herself against the ethics complaints that were brought against her. Which is like 18 or something like that. Then two more got filed against her even after she announced her resignation.

Whether that is the true reason why she resigned or not, they are both very good arguments for resigning. We really don't have anything else to go off of as to why she resigned other than the reasons that she gave. Which are two very good reasons.

Then as Grapesofrath mentioned it's all about the spin. She can spin this into her putting her family first and being fiscally responsible by resigning because of the growing cost of the ethics complaints.

Then you have to look at this 3 years down the road after dealing with a super far left president and reckless spending. People are going to be ready for somebody new.

I don't think she is going to run for president and as long as she can keep her religion out the politics then frankly it doesn't matter what her decision is. Besides I doubt she is going to start a religious party.

She is willing to work with conservative dems and republicans. Which leads me to think she is going to create a party that will swoop up all the centrist.

Personally, I don't think she would make a good president but she is a leader and has the ability to form a new viable third party. If she doesn't put herself up to run, but instead forms a party that encompasses the beliefs of the majority of Americans which is limited tax, small government, and freedom.

Then the people that all want a third party to vote for as an alternative and won't vote that party if the persons running represent them because Palin formed the party then this country gets exactly what deserves which is to continually getting raped by the Corporations and Special interest.

Any how, we don't even know what the party platform is going to be, but from what I can gather from other articles it is going to be a right leaning center party.

My .02 dollars at least.



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 03:51 PM
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Now a days you don't have to be a "good president" just smart enough to keep the agenda of the ruling class and the private interest that are running this nation.

All you need this days to be president is to know how to lie to people.




posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by Hastobemoretolife
I think some people are getting it confused as to why she resigned as Gov. She resigned because her family was taking a lot of flak from the left media for it.

In fact that is part of what was in her speech when she resigned. She also mentioned how the legal bills were racking up due to her having to defend herself against the ethics complaints that were brought against her. Which is like 18 or something like that. Then two more got filed against her even after she announced her resignation.

Whether that is the true reason why she resigned or not, they are both very good arguments for resigning. We really don't have anything else to go off of as to why she resigned other than the reasons that she gave. Which are two very good reasons.


Good points Hasto! I think you've furthered my point of letting this all play out. There's really no harm and no foul so far. She will fail or succeed on her merit.



Then you have to look at this 3 years down the road after dealing with a super far left president and reckless spending. People are going to be ready for somebody new. - Hastobemoretolife


People are ready now and so maybe that has affected her decision too. These campaigns start years in advance now. Perhaps she is ahead of the curve on this.



posted on Jul, 12 2009 @ 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by Hx3_1963
Palin / Bachmann 2012



Ron Paul Treasurer 2012 (Hopefully no Fed by then!)



[edit on 7/12/2009 by Hx3_1963]


Ya that is GREAT


What we need is another Mccarthy era, love it!



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 12:18 AM
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Originally posted by TheAssociate
This party already exists. It's called the Libertarian party, and Palin is not a Libertarian. Sounds like she's just doing some pandering.
TA


Libertarian is only another third party choice. It is not the only third party choice.

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Originally posted by mopusvindictus
More parties could work out to be a very good thing even if some of them are only subtly different.

with one or 2 independent parties one being a more extreme democratic party the other a more extreme Republican party...

all you get is a loss of 5-10% of each major party

but if we have 5 or 6 serious parties competing, then we might seriously diminish the power of the Big 2


This is actually a very good idea. It would water down the power of the two parties. Some countries already implement this system.

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Originally posted by marg6043
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Do you really want to see all the stretch marks on her breast, stomach and butts after all the breeding she has done?

I don't think that is going to be a nice picture, but hey she probably got some plastic surgery during her taste of power running for vice president.


Coming from being a mother yourself, marg, I find this cruel and very puzzling. I never thought you would stoop to such words.

Back on topic:

I think that this is a good step for her. She can turn into very effective hit man and tear the Boy Blunder a new a*hole by exposing all his mistakes that the MSM refuses to report on. She can also attack all the wusses in the R party that play so nice.

Let her tear down Pelosi, Reid, and Frank. As well as McCain and his ilk.

She doesn't have to even run for office to do this.



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