s the J-10 comparable to F22 in dog fight?

[Edited on 7-5-2004 by hanshoe]

no chance from what iv heard and read the f22 would wipe the floor with that thing
the j-10 just isni in the same class as the f22
mabye the typhoon and the f-18 those would interesting anyway no ones knows how good an aircraft really is until u get it in the air

It's the pilot, not the machine.

However, given sufficient numbers, it is possible for an elite cadre of pilots to develop in spite of poor pilot training. In such a situation those elite pilots are often spread thinly and eventually lost to attrition just like the green pilots.

If China's smart, they're doing everything possible to grow highly talented native pilots. Even if the hotshots are only 1% of their Air Force, those hot pilots can be used to outthink any adversary. The don't have to fly - put them in command of the flying units or let them train. Such hotshot pilots are valuable in re-posturing the military to face different threats; to develop new training methods; or to come up with unconventional tactics.

well said well said i would argue that point any day
but sometimes you must have the machine over the man to be sucessful

Ahhhh, Iron Eagle 3.

Or was it 4?

A guy i used to know, his uncle is a pilot in the PLA airforce. i recall him saying they go thru very tough training coz he was gonna fly one of the 1st batch of Su-27s. this was a few years back.

maybe not all chinese pilots r that bad. i mean those planes do cost the government a lot and they wouldn't want them to drop like flies when the time comes to use them.

i mean the one that crashed into the spy plane was just a casual patrol/escort. i dunno. do airforces usually send hotshots to do housework like that? maybe to give them more flying hours? plus he was flying a #ty J-8.

chinese pilots have been really been tested in large scale combat. or any combat. for a damn long time. maybe not since after the korean war. i dont think they used planes much in the Vietnam and Indian skirmishes.

oh and DeltaNine;
cool badge pic u got.
where is it actually from?

The J-10 is pretty much a modified F-16 so I think the F/A-22 will beat it hands down.