Originally posted by MattMulder
excellent topic, serbsta. Really.
Those UFOs we see out there definitely are human-made, why would they crash then ?
An alien civilization capable of crossing the universe and check us out definitely has the know-how to prevent crashes, don't you think ?
the real case, now, would be to study the research on invisibility, which is possible ( i remember having read a topic about a team of "something
university" putting together means of making a "stealth coat" ... )
Maybe the UFOs we captuire on pics/video are failing UFOs, which "stealth" function has been disabled due to some technical problem?
I've got some serious thinking ahead.
Thanks again Serbsta !
>> Without committing to SAYING there are flying saucers or not (my dad said he saw one flying for the Navy -- but it could have been swamp gas above
his air craft carrier with a metallic glint on it). I have to agree with your assessment.
LOGIC, would tell you, that an alien race that crossed that galaxy would have BETTER understanding of materials science and physics than we do at any
given time. Hence, when we see those old "metal bucket" flying saucers -- if they weren't fakes, they don't look as advanced in materials science
as the seamless sports cars of today.
And to shoot one down?
We can imagine some force used to propel them. It's the next phase in our own discoveries. We have a few inklings of many new technologies. So if you
fast-forward a thousand years with just human science -- well, these UFO's don't look so dang advanced. Likely they wouldn't be glowing anymore if
they could move through matter, or "re-tune themselves to another point in space." Likely, in a million years we won't be using vehicles to cross
the stars. And with this infinite Universe -- how many civilizations have a million years head start? For all intents and purposes, they would be like
God to us. I don't think technology stands still.
I predict our current research into invisibility WILL lead to some understanding of gravity. I predicted they would find that light could influence
gravity -- I think a University at Virginia conducted some experiments -- it's too late in the night for me to hunt it down. Anyway,.. light can
"push" gravity as gravity can push on light. You can bounce light "for free" between mirrors, so it's possible to make an area more dense in
Photons than in matter.
The invisibility cloaks that use Nano-holes and threads are the key here; LINK
. I totally missed
that until the discovery was announced about a month ago -- I'm ashamed I didn't figure it out before. It works -- but not for the reasons they are
describing yet. It get's right down to why I think that Quantum physics is off track in that it's about resonant "octaves" in space/time that
forces energy to be released in packets. If a wave does not interact with another wave at a peak threshold, no energy is exchanged -- BUT, space can
be influenced. So if you can get resonances and distances BELOW quantum thresholds (Plank length), well then, you can start creating materials that
give you free energy and force.
Half-plank lengths between structures NOT fused into the same molecular structure is the key. And there are other possibilities between two vacuum
plates with nano-holes and wires. If you could create a large area of non-associated matter that was closer between the two plates, than the molecules
were in the plates themselves -- well, that might be the secret to vacuum energy.
And invisibility is the secret to one of the five Faster than Light techniques I've been thinking of. Of course, WHY that is so, is another matter
entirely. And YES, the Warp Drive concept should work, but it's the more difficult one, since you've got some neutron star material, being "shut
off" from the Universe and back on -- and you probably would have to orbit the stuff at the same time (making a curve shorter than a straight line).
Damn messy and you'd have to rid yourself of inertia -- which means you've already mastered the important physics that would allow you to bypass the
bending of space with a gravity well in the first place.
With Anti-Matter, and an understanding of gravity, you should be able to control inertia. With an understanding of invisibility -- you can control
gravity as well. With an understanding of plank-length structures to master invisibility, you understand vacuum energy. Of course, the last two would
really help to produce anti-matter in the first place. It's only less tricky than the warp drive.
If you can figure out how to create plank-length vacuum plates (I had an inkling a month ago and forgot it just as quickly) and anti-matter, then
it's handy to really understand how to make coherent matter and,... I forget the term, it's what they are calling matter that is quantumly "in
sync" -- anyway, you do that with the anti-matter and you can create a gate that can trick the higher dimensional states of matter to move to another
gate. This is NOT like a worm-hole at all.
A few years ago, I was thinking about absolute vacuums, that you could travel behind, and "warp' through space, bypassing the light-speed
constraint. But a "worm hole" -- well, that's only a way to travel if you want something recycled.
And if you don't understand invisibility -- everything I said makes no sense at all.
>> And I predict that anti-matter will produce negative gravity (not anti-gravity, but it will push matter AWAY and more so in stronger gravity
fields). I could be wrong, however, it has happened before.
>> But I have to get back to the real world. Hard to mix the pursuits where my mind takes over and the day-to-day. I have to get this lady's web site
built tonight and go to work tomorrow. And of course, take care of the kids.
Still wish I could have pursued invention as a career. I've had so many very BASIC ideas come out. When my parents built an underground house, I
really got into all sorts of ideas for insulation, and home construction. The "light pipe" used to pump light for free from the sun into the house
-- that's something I designed when I was ten. It's an invention that GE and a few other companies make money on today. I could have gotten the
patent for that -- but I'm sure there are a thousand other people who had the same idea.
Meh; The spoils go to the Lawyers, no matter who spends the sweat equity to actually implement an idea.