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NWO Pros and Cons

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posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 12:31 AM
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I hope to start a healthy discussion on the Pros and Cons of what is called the "New World Order".

I read many posts and often times, there are some supposed tie-ins with this particular matter in UFO's, FEMA, economy, and so forth. I have yet to read any real proof regarding an enactment or process to, regarding a one world government, and in that, any relation to the subjects I mentioned.

What makes this topic fascinating is, is that it in our development, it will become a probability. Whether through unity, or dominance, it has already begun hundreds of years ago through colonialism, idealism, and ultimately trade.

I would like to understand what NWO means to you, and if possible offer a pro(s) and con(s).




posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 12:55 AM
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"new world order" is used to refer to a new era, im pretty sure Jesus used the term "New world order" in the bible and yes we did have a new era, its called the Christian era

its been used for hundreds and hundreds of years.

I disapprove one world government, its too big, its easy for a dictator to take control and kill on a mass scale , than again didn't Obama want a depopulate the earth?

Edit: I just realised who wanted a one world government, Hitler,Stalin,now bush Clinton etc. i remember when Clinton said we need a one world government to fight the terrorists and 9/11 was a inside job so ...

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posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 02:02 AM
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Originally posted by dino1989
"new world order" is used to refer to a new era, im pretty sure Jesus used the term "New world order" in the bible and yes we did have a new era, its called the Christian era

its been used for hundreds and hundreds of years.

I disapprove one world government, its too big, its easy for a dictator to take control and kill on a mass scale , than again didn't Obama want a depopulate the earth?

Edit: I just realised who wanted a one world government, Hitler,Stalin,now bush Clinton etc. i remember when Clinton said we need a one world government to fight the terrorists and 9/11 was a inside job so ...

[edit on 11-7-2009 by dino1989]

[edit on 11-7-2009 by dino1989]


Depopulate Earth? That's ludicrous.

That's fear mongering from the media you have frequented and absorbed.

Tickle me with a relevant link to depopulation theory.



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 02:07 AM
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do your own research

www.infowars.com...
www.youtube.com...



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 02:53 AM
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That just makes me sick. What a waste of time.



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 03:30 AM
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Con: One government cannot possibly be representative
Con: Depopulation and wars necessary in order to force one government
Con: Mass propaganda promoting government
Con: Since I disagree I will be labelled a terrorist
Con: Since I am a terrorist they will slander me and all against them
Con: More control (order needs strict rules)
Con: With absolute power comes corruption

Pro: Rich people doin all right



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 03:54 AM
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Well, if I were David Rockefeller or someone of that ilk, I'd probably see a lot of Pro's to the New World Order. But right now there's only Con's on my part, and Ridhya outlined them perfectly!



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 04:30 AM
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No pros about feeding the poor, access to medicines, stopping ethnic conflicts, none of that?



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 04:32 AM
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right, the one world government loves you, they want what's best for you

hahaha

silly



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 05:19 AM
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Pro:

No single nation has the money by itself to genuinely start the process of colonizing space. United as a Species we could begin the process of leaving Earth for good. True freedom is no longer a relevant possibility given technology here on Earth. Every individual govt has the potential to police us, to control our behavior. There is no longer a genuine plausible frontier on this planet where people can be free to create new systems, form new philosophies, try new ways of life.

For a time the first colonies would be close, controlled by the need for life support, but it wouldn't be very long before genuine new frontiers opened up, before we could again be completely out of reach of all Earth Governments.

As even the United States is no longer truely a Free country, I think a certain degree of sacrifice on my own part, so that my children or my children's children can colonize new worlds and truely be free has become necessary.

It not only assures a Future where true freedom can exist once again but the survival of the human species.

Whomever and under what conditions a One world govt forms only matters for my immediate future, having reproduced I most think of a greater future possibility, no leader or group stays in power forever, no one wishes to lead an empty world devoid of those to lead.

While they might be authoritarian if some in here are correct, they will not kill us off... Freedom as i said is already gone, the world in which I live is already damaged, only resources from off world can assure our survival now, the alternative is an endless cycle of competition and war for basic material needs

The alternative is much worse than the solution, a life where reproduction is limited, holding back of solutions to longevity which are I am sure already available but not released for reasons of population control, a world without children, a life span limited when the technology already exists to extend it.

It's going to take the United resources of mankind working together to assure we don't perish, I see no other way around the dilemma.

I see the best possible scenario for myself to come from... being involved, participating and helping as best I can contribute to this new system in a way that helps prevent totalitarianism and creates the best possible life for myself and family within it as possible.

It is either that or fight and kill and take human life in order to preserve in the end a small piece of a pie that will surely slowly decay anyway.

I believe at 38 given my youth which is extraordinary thanks to the wonders of modern science and human knowledge to live long enough that if this happens fast enough and we can start in my lifetime sending people to colonies off world and allowing human life to be extended as a result... that I might live long enough to travel to the stars, that my life could be double triple maybe 10 x what it would be if we do not come together as a species...

and I think about what i'd actually be giving up to see that happen ...things that really don't matter... when compared to my love of children and seeing generations of my offspring, the knowledge that over time I might be able to accumulate, the love that I can have...

and the things I might have to give up under a one world govt do not seem so bad...

I know they do not wish to kill us off... again there is no one to rule that way...

And work for me is an intellectual pursuit, so if they insist i work... what harm is that to me so long as I pursue what I love...

I do not think...they would take away books from those that do research, I do not think making love to the person you love will go away either, nor enjoying my time with my children so long as you play by the rules...

They might try to banish religion or institute a one world religion... I am not sure how much that affects me as i am not religious.

It seems the world will be more socialist... that I might have to accept behaviors from people in life I do not appreciate... but was it ever my concern in the first place what others do?

But in the end... being intelligent and having a mind I would be useful, I do not think i'd come to any harm

And like I said...

The alternative is War for resources, remaining on this planet, possible extinction, the end of life as we know it... not mundane things like owning Guns or Property or Calling myself by a religious title I don't much believe in anyway

But lack of water, having to kill to survive, being unable to have children, not being able to advance my life expectancy

another dark ages perhaps...

I think the world needs to be United in order to leave this world... I often wonder if it is anything insidious at all on the part of our leaders that we head in this direction. I often entertain the possibility that, this was mandated from outside... that we unite as a species before being allowed to leave this world... not sure, maybe?

But I do know that if we don't our doom is inevitable and no one country can get the job done alone.













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posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 07:21 AM
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PRO: The NWO has shills on this site (and others like it) to attempt to "feel out" the public opinion, guage responses, etc... Thanks OP, your account has been credited with the allotted amount of world currency.

CONS: Not enough room in the server to list. How about we just say: Everything.

That long diatribe that "mopus" just spewed? Who do you think is the cause of the majority of the problems listed?

Thanks for the problem, reaction, solution approach. How very elite of you.

Anybody that lists a "PRO", and is serious, is an obvious shill or drunk on kool aide.

End transmission.



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 07:33 AM
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Originally posted by dino1989
reply to post by TSer78
 


right, the one world government loves you, they want what's best for you

hahaha

silly


Too true.

The main thing in the future, will be mind control, of populations. The government will know all you do, and all you think, and thats everyone one day. That also means they could if you do not know it, control everything you think and want, and if you do not go along with what they want you to do, they may destroy you.

Nice world they are going to build.

Of course there are some pros to it too, but most of us will not be getting the pro side of it.

The dualistic nature of of the illuminati means they do the bad stuff to us, while they do the good stuff for themselves. Like all controllers,a nd governments have always done.



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 07:37 AM
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illumanti doesn't exist



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 08:06 AM
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that would depend on the definition of New World Order.

how is it being defined here? what is your vision of world order? is it Utpoian or Orwellian? perspective is everything.

proof? do we really need a smoking gun when we have confessions? over and over, we have seen this phrase referenced by powerful political figures. it isn't used lightly either.

if it is innocuous or immaterial then why is it a theme? if it is insignificant then why is a similar phrase printed on the legal tender?

to me it is obvious that there is some sort of global agenda. what that actually is remains to be seen. according to the track record though, we have no reason to assume that it is a beneficent endeavor.



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