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Originally posted by mmiichael
OK. I'm only able to speculate with incomplete information and no access to prime sources. But a leg up with info from someone who has tracked this story professionally.
There is some issue with Obama's actual birth place, his citizenship, his technical legitimacy as President. There was a story of a private investigator who tracked down the Obama-Dunham divorce papers and allegedly it gave BO's place of birth as Kenya. Either a hoax or the story was squashed.
The avoidance of supplying the full paperwork is probably a flashing red light. That said, it was decided that he should be the Pres based on his overwhelming popularity and the wish not to compromise US credibility when the economic future and negative perception were becoming a worldwide concern in the final quarter of 2008.
So he's sworn in and in the Oval Office now. If not legitimately, only a dozen people know that and they would have more to lose than gain by going public with the knowledge.
The Supreme Court will not entertain any claims trying to remove him.
Just as they took a pass on the recount demand for Florida in 2000.
But it's 2009 and there are things happening in the background that we only can surmise.
Who benefits from Obama losing his job? Is it conceivable this was a setup?
Was he parachuted in as part of a program to destabilize the US.
Is everything above unfounded rumours and paranoid suspicion?
Someone who has a pretty good idea says: Yes to some, but not all.
Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.
The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.
McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.
Originally posted by argentus
It's a Constitutional issue
Merely labelling it as a sour-grapes rightwing movement or "fringe" really doesn't address the issue
Originally posted by JulieMills
It would be enough for me to find out WHY he needed 39 fake social security numbers.
Originally posted by kozmo
Sorry, but you are misinformed on almost every count.
No hospital has verified anything regarding Obama's birth and the Dept of Vital Statistics (Or whatever) would only confirm that he has a BC on file with them
To verify we did indeed have the correct document, we contacted the Hawaii Department of Health, which maintains such records.
"It's a valid Hawaii state birth certificate," spokesman Janice Okubo said June 13, 2008, after we e-mailed her our copy.
The claim that the published Cert of Live Birth may be fraudulent is legitimate.
True, the law may have come into existence in 1982
so he could have secured his Cert of LIve Birth during any number of years after that point.
That brings up an interesting point... His father's Nationality is listed as African on the COLB. When barky was born all COLBs listed black nationality as "Negro", not "African".
Now, please let us employ some logic and reason. He has sealed his Occidental College records
Originally posted by kozmo
OH, and by the way... your most recent post is rife with speculation. You make assertions that you feel are true, like "he was born on American soil anyway"
and are in no way based in fact.
Again, I ask... Why not simply present the Birth Certificate?
Originally posted by Southern Guardian
reply to post by expat2368
Sandra Ramsey can get in the back of the line. The short form birth certificate has been authenticated by The Hawaiian health department, politifact, and the Hawaiin state government.