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Two gay men kicked out of Chico's Tacos restaurant for kissing

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posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 12:18 PM
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It's quite pleasureable to engage in sex, whether one does it for the purpose of reproduction or not, but reproduction is it's purose.


John Matrix, have you never been on the receiving or giving end of oral sex??? NEVER???

because, if you think that 'reproduction' is the 'purpose' for all sex, then you should read some biology books again!


People who have the Gay fetish cannot reproduce, therefore they recruit. Unfortunately, they recruit by going after young boys. The younger the better, because they are more easily influenced at a younger age.


Oh, THAT old tired chestnut again! Mired and twisted by religious fundamentalism and such an outright LIE!!!! You, sir, have an unhealthy obsession with this subject. AS DO THOSE who seem to perpetuate this myth. You should truly take a deep, inner look. AND consider what you're actually saying --- it is NOT LOGICAL!!! And, it is pure evil, and unabashed HATRED!




posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 12:23 PM
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OOPs is all I can say to Bombeni, she sure thinks like a straight man. FYI when my son was 6 and questioned where his father was, I told him that not all little boys like candy and that not all mommies like daddys. Some mommys do better with out daddys. He excepted that at age 6. To this day I get fathers day cards from him. My most cherished possession is his 9th grade school essay called, "MY HERO". Its all about me, his mom.



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 12:24 PM
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The foregoing portions of your post are pure drivel, and have no substantiation in fact, only in the lies perpetuated by the religious 'right'.

But, as to this for example:

Monkeys also throw their feces at each other so is that natural for us to do? If the ACLU has anything to do with it...


THAT is the worst case of idiocy used as a part of your 'arguments'.

"Monkeys throw their feces" is such an ignorant allusion, it just reflects poorly on the actual abilities of the detractors to engage in scholarly debate. It is a pathetic allegory. AND, it's schoolyard-level child's stuff.


[edit on 11 July 2009 by weedwhacker]



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by nunya13
But they are a group of people who are discriminated against simply because they are "different". All people's deserve to be treated equally. I believe that was the point the poster you were responding to was trying to make.


No this is wrong, and unless Gays walk around with a tattoo on their fore.s saying "I'm Gay", no one really knows what they are and inspite of your inability to give the average heterosexual credit for being a little more advanced than the knuckle draggin rednecks you all portray them to be, they really don't give a rats ass who people boff at home.

If anything its more woman for them with less competing males. Gays fall far short from the three classification criteria they must meet to have the distinction of an "oppressed class of people" the statistics just don't come close NOR do they meet the criteria for a species or race that has any distinction that makes them gay 24/7 they are people but all people have sex and what or who we have sex with is none of our business in addition to being something do, it is not something that defines a people like Race or Gender according to genitalia and not what you think you are but trapped in the body of another.

Since Gays got so much political clout in Boston Mass, we have seen 4 years olds getting trans gender reasignment surgery approved by their gay parents. Now that is just nuts but it was all over the news



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 12:35 PM
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OK I live in Frisco the gay mecca of the planet and I for one dont give a # if you queer or not but as far as equal rights are concerned if you are gay and want to be treated equal dont scream hate crime if you get you ass handed to you by somebody that is offended by your public displays of affection!!!!!!!!!!



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by DASFEX
Since Gays got so much political clout in Boston Mass, we have seen 4 years olds getting trans gender reasignment surgery approved by their gay parents. Now that is just nuts but it was all over the news


I would LOVE to see a link or 2 on that.

Btw, why were the other 3 men kicked out? They hadn't kissed.



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by weedwhacker


The foregoing portions of your post are pure drivel,


Objection, your ad-hom opinion is irrelevant to the argument and only seeks to raise the temperature of the thread to an emotional level without the benefit of logic or intellect.




and have no substantiation in fact, only in the lies perpetuated by the religious 'right'.


Objection, making allegations of perjury must be proven, if you are going to call me a liar weed, then impeach my testimony or withdraw the allegation please.

But, as to this for example:

THAT is the worst case of idiocy used as a part of your 'arguments'.


Objection, your ad-hom opinion is irrelevant to the argument and only seeks to raise the temperature of the thread to an emotional level without the benefit of logic or intellect.





"Monkeys throw their feces" is such an ignorant allusion, it just reflects poorly on the actual abilities of the detractors to engage in scholarly debate. It is a pathetic allegory. AND, it's schoolyard-level child's stuff.


Objection, your ad-hom opinion is irrelevant to the argument and only seeks to raise the temperature of the thread to an emotional level without the benefit of logic or intellect.

If you have nothing more to say that contributes directly to the information nd the discussion's central message, weed it has been a somewhat awkward experience meeting you, I would think as long as you have been a member here, you would show a little more class and ability to argue the topic rather then resort to tactics of debate where your outrage doesn't make you right, it just makes you look out of control, not at cause but at effect.

Its been fun Ill Ignore your abrasive posting style from now on.


[edit on 11-7-2009 by DASFEX]



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 12:47 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by DASFEX
Since Gays got so much political clout in Boston Mass, we have seen 4 years olds getting trans gender reasignment surgery approved by their gay parents. Now that is just nuts but it was all over the news


I would LOVE to see a link or 2 on that.

Btw, why were the other 3 men kicked out? They hadn't kissed.


It was on Oriley factor on youtube has it i believe Ill see if i can locate it

Here ya go, I found this one , its not the same one I saw but its the same problem going on there . www.foxnews.com...

Now if they werent kissing how would anyone know they were gay? If the thread is titled in a mis-leading way and they got kicked out merely for mentioning they are gay, then they should sue the crap out of that business

[edit on 11-7-2009 by DASFEX]



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 12:55 PM
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Nothing debates said is bigoted and even if it was, he can just say he was born that way and it's biological. If Gayness is biological, then why wouldn't sexual proclivities leaning towards sex with children? This would make them a victim of their body chemistry their genetic design and they would have every right under the equal rights protections to have the same political platform and the same "rights" to express their "special' love.


Maybe it is biological, I wouldn't claim to have any knowledge about that. However, repeating myself as you clearly have not read the preceeding posts, as between 80-95% of all paedophilic acts are committed by seemingly 'normal' heterosexual men...that's a whole other argument. 'Normal' seems to be getting a bad name doesn't it? Plus the fact that around a third of heterosexual men and women indulge in anal sex...then what's the argument again?



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 12:55 PM
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When I joined ATS a short time ago, no one knew I was a lesbian. Thank you Weedwhacker for not disowning me as a friend. I suppose now I will have more advisarys than friends. That sucks but it comes with the territory I suppose. Anyway, ty for your kindness weedwhacker. I must remember.............do not kiss the wife............do not kiss the wife....... who cant legally be my wife, who am I kidding? Magantice



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 12:57 PM
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Originally posted by DASFEX
Here ya go, I found this one , its not the same one I saw but its the same problem going on there . www.foxnews.com...


Nope, "Page can not be found".



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 01:01 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by DASFEX
Here ya go, I found this one , its not the same one I saw but its the same problem going on there . www.foxnews.com...


Nope, "Page can not be found".


mmm sorry about that intrepid, try this www.empowher.com...



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by DASFEX
mmm sorry about that intrepid, try this www.empowher.com...


Not even close to your original argument:


Since Gays got so much political clout in Boston Mass, we have seen 4 years olds getting trans gender reasignment surgery approved by their gay parents. Now that is just nuts but it was all over the news.



Boston’s Children’s Hospital bills itself as the hospital for children — and now it’s also the hospital for children who want a sex change, a procedure some critics are calling “barbaric.”

Dr. Norman Spack, a pediatric specialist at the hospital, has launched a clinic for transgendered kids — boys who feel like girls, girls who want to be boys — and he’s opening his doors to patients as young as 7.

Spack offers his younger patients counseling and drugs that delay the onset of puberty. The drugs stop the natural flood of hormones that would make it difficult to have a sex alteration later in life, allowing patients more time to decide whether they want to make the change.


Where is the mention of "gay parents"? Where does it say that he performs surgery on 4 year olds? Where does it say that he performs surgery on children at all?



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 01:07 PM
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The onus isn't on weed to prove you wrong. You should provide sources for your logic so we can see. As of yet you've made some very strong claims without providing any supporting evidence.


Now you might think that is a silly comparison but it is the gay community working so diligently to lower consent laws and decriminalize sexual predators and offenders prison sentences and also make public sex in in public restrooms legal as long as itg is in a booth with the door closed. Go a., ask me for proof because if you do, Ill show you what I have for proof what they are doing in our schools already.



The idea that Monkeys do it in nature and dogs do it doesn't prove its natural, what it proves is sexual aberrant behavior is not exclusive to humans and is just another social construct of a species of animal that does it because of its socially accepted pleasurable results but they do this without the benefit of higher conscience and intellect where sexually transmitted diseases among primates is rampant and directly associated with this aberrant sexual construct, It isn't a biological or genetically driven impulse at the biosexual level but seen as a method of showing dominance and a hierarchy in rank and privilege.


I've gone a. and emphasized your assertions. You see, I'm a bit confused on how dogs have a society or social constructs. Also, where are your statistics on primate homosexuality causing rampant spreading of STDs among primate 'societies'?

Where is the evidence that homosexual relationships in the animal kingdom are purely for domination reasons?

Lastly, where is your evidence that any kind of gay lobbying group is trying to lower the US consent age, decriminalize sexual predators, and make public sex legal? Please, you say you have evidence to back everything you say up, then do so.

I think people might be offended at your posts because you're making wild claims and have yet to back any of them up. So, here's your chance!



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 01:13 PM
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No, again you are incorrect. It is an almost universal behaviour throughout the animal kingdom. Therefore you cannot class it as a fetish or an aberration.

As for the idea that the purpose of sex is reproduction, again the animal kingdom will disagree as it is used for many things, including conflict resolution between warring males.

Look, we get that you don't like it.
But, suppose I disliked people who have red hair. It would be my right to feel that way, but it wouldn't be my right to insist that red.s all wear hats when they are out in public so that their red hair didn't offend me.



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by jprophet420
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Heres the caveat:
Only about 10% of people are gay. You can have all the gay rights you want but 90% of us don't want to see it, and never will.

Balance will find itself.



Great, and here's the solution for that.
Look away.
See, that wasn't hard, was it?



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by oneclickaway
reply to post by DASFEX
 




Nothing debates said is bigoted and even if it was, he can just say he was born that way and it's biological. If Gayness is biological, then why wouldn't sexual proclivities leaning towards sex with children? This would make them a victim of their body chemistry their genetic design and they would have every right under the equal rights protections to have the same political platform and the same "rights" to express their "special' love.


Maybe it is biological, I wouldn't claim to have any knowledge about that. However, repeating myself as you clearly have not read the preceeding posts, as between 80-95% of all paedophilic acts are committed by seemingly 'normal' heterosexual men...that's a whole other argument. 'Normal' seems to be getting a bad name doesn't it? Plus the fact that around a third of heterosexual men and women indulge in anal sex...then what's the argument again?


That is incorrect, their ARE substantially more heterosexual men so it stands to reason why their numbers are higher, but if you care to use percentages and most infamous crimes of this type of sex, then Ill throw some at you that pedophile priests are Gay males using the Church to enable their access to children using their authority to manipulate them into having sex. The church was so saturated with them they covered for each other as we all know.

John Wayne Gacey killed 32 young men and boys

Jeffery Dahmer was another and if you google gay serial killers, you'll see that the ratio between gays and straights are significantly higher among gays with the lions share of ther victims being children. But ya know, I hate to get into these tit for tat arguments because I know many gays and none would do anything like that in my opinion.

Now if gayness were biological then perhaps sex is too?

hehe Yeah I know that much but is sexual preference directed by genetics?

I would think if it were me and someone asked me about this issue, I would be at least owning up to it enough to say "I chose gay sex" and if they don't like it tuff, they have the right to an opinion and their opinion of me in that case is none of my business.



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 01:17 PM
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I would favor that. Well, a simple kiss is ok, but continued long term kissing in a restaurant should really be a no.

Besides, it's the store owners right to dictator conduct in his store.



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 01:17 PM
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Man, now I wanna go organize a massive make-out party with both LGBT and hetero couples in the parking lot of this place. That'd be effing awesome.



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by DASFEX

Originally posted by weedwhacker



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Its been fun Ill Ignore your abrasive posting style from now on.



On second thought, never mind....not worth it.

[edit on 11 July 2009 by weedwhacker]



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