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The CIA is on ATS

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posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 10:15 AM
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Personally I could careless if they are on here reading my information. They will find nothing other than that I am an 80's loving book nerd who loves aliens and wants an Eiffel Tower cake for my bday. As for avatars and screen names, again my sn is a dedication to my shoe God Manolo Blahnik and well my avatar speaks for itself.




posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 11:05 AM
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Deny ignorance

Why would the CIA care about your Avatar and user name, they would be more interested in the NWO Page or General Conspiracies

Plus, I read the other guys thread and it said that you were ignorantly accusing him...that's just plain rude and so much paranoia. Don't you feel sick and depressed with all that paranoia? I bet you do..



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 11:09 AM
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The real question is:

WHY did this silly topic get 18 PAGES!!!??? AND 121 FLAGS???!!!

Because someone is trolling for recognition......and that's kinda sad.....



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 11:22 AM
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And we fell right for that trolls trap...damn it!

Trolls are getting smarter everyday...Star for you



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 11:46 AM
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SonicInfinity - I gave you a star for this - "CIA agent as a tudor? I guess he wasn't very good."

My thoughts exactly!



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 12:05 PM
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BOO

LOL

who cares they can read your emails, see all your internet useage, see where you shop what you buy, listen to your call, and can watch you from a satellite, just to start with....


If they wanted to....



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 12:26 PM
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OMG! Do you live in a cave? Do you actually think the CIA or any other agency actually follows rules? We are only told what they want us to know and they do as they d*mn well please!

I don't mean to offend, but d*mn, wake up!



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by Electric Prophet
Can I just post a little common sense?


Actually? NO not here




Honestly, unless you're doing something you shouldn't be, than you have nothing to worry about.


Like exposing government secret projects? Which is why many are here to learn about those projects?



You're protected by laws older than you are, laws that hundreds and hundreds of Americans died to preserve.


Which pretty much got wiped clean with Homeland Security



believe that history has shown some of our greatest leaders were non-violent (Ghandi, Jesus, Buddha, and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.) Remember that nothing Hitler, Stalin, or Suddam Hussein did was illegal, but rather they made the laws and legalized all that they did.


Hmmmm but what has that got to do with snooping for secret space planes and digging up Alien intel that they don't want us to know about?



Anyways, to tie this back into what I was saying; it's important to be critical of your government, but don't go blowing up government buildings just because you think you've found something "incriminating" about the government.


Who is blowing up anything? Did Gary McKinnon blow up anything? No he snuck in a door someone left open and got nabbed... that is what we are talking about here



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by jfj123
Well I'm with the U.B.A.S.M.C.I.E.S.F.N.N.P.N.U.


Well the difference is YOU are full of BS


While mf_luder is the real deal



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 01:11 PM
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I'm with you on this zorgon, of course ATS is being watched. But like I said earlier, 99% of the time "they" have much bigger fish to fry than us.

Also, if someone's really being a problem, they can always arrange to have them gangstalked or whatever, they don't necessarily have to go around killing people.....



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by THX-1138
Somebody go ahead and post something REALLY sensitive and let us see if it gets deleted or edited or if somebody else tries to disinfo it.


I COULD do that... but the problem with that is your need to know vs my wish to remain out of gitmo... well you figure out which is stronger?

I already posted the new NSA facility in Fort Gordon and got 'response'


You have to learn how the game is played...

I wonder has it ever occurred to anyone here that some of these 'agents' lurking here 'might' have another purpose? To seek out and contact people of interest... and perhaps share some real info?

Just maybe? You need to learn to read between the lines and pay attention


Sensitive? Hmmm lets try this...

A long time ago there were secret DoD shuttle missions. You can call BS if you like but that would make one stupid...

Several of these had return weight CLASSIFIED and it still is to this day...

So... why? What did they bring back?

What IF... (gotta do this with senditive stuff ya know
)

What IF they manufacture some nano tech out there (before the ISS)

What IF this 'stuff' was a still top secret stealth coating?

What IF I have a copy of the patent on this nano stuff?

What IF one of the guys who works with this stuff is here on ATS posing as a skeptic?

Well after all its only what IF... not like I really know anything



Hi, Ron...Good Morning!

Thanks for the note and you certainly touch on points of similiarity and interest (proving that great minds think alike!).

I am free to talk about any of my published US Patents which are in the public domain. I am, however, under an edict from DoD under the NSA to 'report any inquiries relative to the stealth patent'. I had a phone call from a person who identified himself as an 'Undersectetary of Defense' and the person read a statement to me which I later found was excerpted from the National Security Act, as amended. I was 'ordered' to report any inquiries of any kind, by anyone, to DoD relative to that case (patent). I've only had to do that one time in 20 years when a group of Isreali's, based in Philly, contacted me relative to undertaking collaboration on some 'project' in Haifa. I reported this as instructed and the group 'disappeared' shortly thereafter.


That 'sensitive' enough




posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by mf_luder
Plus, if something higher than UNCLASSIFED shows up on here, I'm reporting that crap myself.

Call me what you will, but the national security of the US is more important to me than your feelings.


I agree


Now I wish the skeptics would listen up when they ask for 'absolute proof' of things...

To have that 'proof' would require possessing documents that would get you a vacation in that nice resort at Gitmo and it would be free courtesy of Uncle Sam


Funny thing is... all come to ATS on the mission to "Search for the Truth" yet those of us who look a little deeper are in a constant battle to watch that line... one slip across it and game over...

And what is the reward? Being called a 'nut case'


That is why I like these threads... you get some real 'insight' as to who the players are

BTW Thanks for your service


But you must admit the Penelope cover? Has Woo Woo written all over it



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by weedwhacker

The real question is:
WHY did this silly topic get 18 PAGES!!!??? AND 121 FLAGS???!!!


Because 121 people are interested in the topic and its more productive than those crop circle threads that are plaguing the board and get top billing so lighten up will ya? No one dragged you in...


Besides if you read a little you might learn something



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by jaym19th the CIA is an intelligence agency used against foreign peoples and corporations.


That is true... but you forget one thing....

People in general, the average poster, uses CIA and FBI as a generic THEM... There are so many agencies its confusing... so its easier to just say CIA as meaning any surveillance. So while technically the CIA works outside the USA and the FBI is really a national police force, the average poster doesn't see the difference


The only way an Intelligence Agency can collect against a US person is to get permission by the US Attorney General in writing.


That was true before 911... now we have the DHS Department of Homeland Security..

Go find their charter... you will see a lot more leeway on their powers, and so does he NSA. And about that "Permission in Writing"? How hard do you think that is to get?

New Tech Behind NSA Snoop Case?
www.defensetech.org...

The NSA is watching
www.francesfarmersrevenge.com...

AT&T Dealt a Setback in Snoop Case


The lawsuit is the first case to reach court involving a secret program authorized by President Bush in which the National Security Agency monitors calls, without court orders, to ferret out sleeper terrorist agents in the United States. Disclosure of the monitoring program has caused an uproar in Washington, where congressional hearings begin today on the appointment of Air Force Gen. Michael Hayden as director of the CIA. Hayden was director of the NSA when Bush's warrantless "terrorist surveillance program" was developed.

www.redorbit.com...

The Right to Snoop

51 percent approve of the administration's use of these wiretaps — without a court order — to monitor the conversations between al-Qaida suspects and those living in the United States, compared with 46 percent who disapprove."

www.aim.org...

Pentagon sets its sights on social networking websites


"I AM continually shocked and appalled at the details people voluntarily post online about themselves." So says Jon Callas, chief security officer at PGP, a Silicon Valley-based maker of encryption software. He is far from alone in noticing that fast-growing social networking websites such as MySpace and Friendster are a snoop's dream.

New Scientist has discovered that Pentagon's National Security Agency, which specialises in eavesdropping and code-breaking, is funding research into the mass harvesting of the information that people post about themselves on social networks. And it could harness advances in internet technology - specifically the forthcoming "semantic web" championed by the web standards organisation W3C - to combine data from social networking websites with details such as banking, retail and property records, allowing the NSA to build extensive, all-embracing personal profiles of individuals.

www.newscientist.com...

Pentagon: The internet needs to be dealt with as if it were an enemy "weapons system".


Information Operation Roadmap Part 3

The Pentagon's Information Operations Roadmap is blunt about the fact that an internet, with the potential for free speech, is in direct opposition to their goals. The internet needs to be dealt with as if it were an enemy "weapons system".

The 2003 Pentagon document entitled the Information Operation Roadmap was released to the public after a Freedom of Information Request by the National Security Archive at George Washington University in 2006. A detailed explanation of the major thrust of this document and the significance of information operations or information warfare was described by me here.


www.globalresearch.ca...

Official Pentagon Report Information Operations Roadmap PDF
www.gwu.edu...


Now then..

What were you saying?



Anyone wanna see the ECHELON sites around the world? Just ask



Now with all that being said about the CIA, if you want to be afraid of some government agency hacking into your ISP or websites or anything else for that matter. Be afraid of either the FBI or the NSA both has the ability and permission to work within and against the US population.



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 02:03 PM
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Frankly I would be more shocked if they were -not- watching ATS and other similar sites.

1- Even if there were no 'conspiracies' worth watching, when you have a think tank of some odd thousand people looking at things, you may find a nugget of gold to head off a real threat that might blindside the US. (Or other countries.)

2- Disinformation. Have someone just here to put up wild speculation and false information to cloud murky subjects even more.

3- Seed various topics or fields of interest to get data on the topic. (Think tank again.)

4- Gage public opinion on potential trouble spots before enacting or deciding against certain actions. (Flu shots anyone?)

5- Research on group behaviors.

So yeah, they are likely here, so what?

M.



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 02:51 PM
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Nope I will never be careful what I say on ATS. I like to write / comment on what I believe (in).

CIA? So what? Makes me think about one thing
What have I done THIS time?


Ideas of people should not be something someone should be afraid of. Maybe it's more easy for me since I don't live in USA.
The scary part is what others will / can do with your "ideas''. But IF we then should stop spreading and sharing our believes openly, then we would be very 'back in time', like people were in the Dark Ages.

Even when I would encounter similar organisations in my country, my idea about this stays the same.

What can they do? Ah, yes they can bring you all kinds of horor: mental, physical, psychological, money-wise. They can use drugs on you or get to your loved ones. They can even torture you.

Well IF so, bring it on! There is no single person on this entire Earth that can make me or other individuals lose my / their Soul.


PEACE!

[edit on 7/11/2009 by Melyanna Tengwesta]



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 03:21 PM
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firstly, love the avatar--reminds me of the mini-series "taken". before i signed up as a member, i realized that access to what i say will and can be open to whom ever. the only problem i have is that i have some good videos of "ufos", but they may be only ours. the men in black is no longer, because it does not matter that one has a photo or video of a ufo. the fact that it is unidentified tells it all. the cia know that they have members that may leak something here and there and if so, they probably know who it may be. they are just doing their job and why not access this forum.



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 03:59 PM
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A forum would be a good place for a cia experiment, to see how fast ideas spread, what 'type' of information, memes, are most readily passed around, how the ideas evolve and what information people will trust or be influenced by.

As far as people who oppose the governments story go, then the truth is already out there so that cant be a big cia concern, i would guess more that they are interested in the spread of thoses ideas and, maybe more importantly from a counter intelligence point of view, how easy it is to spread disinformation and what 'types' of disinformation is believed more easily. Create chaos, like anarchy in reverse !



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 04:29 PM
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Ill bet this thread is started by CIA....... to filter ! Its like attracting flies on a sh...pile



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon
You're protected by laws older than you are, laws that hundreds and hundreds of Americans died to preserve.


Which pretty much got wiped clean with Homeland Security "

Hey now, I take offense to that. Whereas DHS is allowed certain leeway when investigating offenses, DHS always operates within the legal limits given upon the acting agent.

And any classified information, or top secret information anyone may want to disclose to someone would always be done face to face, never over a phone or internet communication.
Anyone smart enough to get clearance to this wouldn't be dumb enough to post it for all prying eyes to see considering some of those eyes are officials. IMO

But you would be surprised at the wealth of information accessible with just a little searching and typing if you know where to look.
Which I am working to put an end to. Making Classified info stay classified.

oh yeah, someone asked if that one made up agency was hiring.
I know DHS is in a hiring frenzy right now.
www.DHS.gov if you need a job and want to serve your country


 
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