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Michael Moore's next film will be about 'Capitalism'

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posted on Jul, 9 2009 @ 05:30 PM
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Originally posted by grapesofraft

Michael Moore is just some fat greasy pig that thinks he knows what is best for everyone. He is so full of s... that he is about to explode. If he wasnt so fat and well fed, I would start to think he was a plant by some communist nation.



Wow.

I'm not exactly a huge fan of Moore's although his films usually carry poignant messages (with a few distortions).

However, its really hard to take you seriously when you let out a load of diatribe of that caliber.

Maybe you can think of an intelligent way to criticize the man and try again?




posted on Jul, 9 2009 @ 05:37 PM
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Michael Moore is right.........

Capitalism is good in a limited form.
I hope some one "breaks a leg" just for good luck of course and see how capitalism will sping in to action and help him or her if he or she is broke without a penny. A balanced sistem betwen capitalism and socialism is a fair one.

See how capitalism will take corporations across the sea and in to other parts of the world leaving people jobles in USA, so all of you can chear of joy because you just became jobless.


Capitalism does not care for the idividual so there needs to be a thing called public service (socialism)
Capitalism and socialism can coexist. None of the forms taken to the extreme, in this case capitalism and socialism will favore anyone.


Just give it a few years. I have seen people smile... he who will laugh first will cry later.



[edit on 9-7-2009 by pepsi78]



posted on Jul, 9 2009 @ 05:44 PM
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This guys do not have internet so they can't speak out like you guys.








[edit on 9-7-2009 by pepsi78]



posted on Jul, 9 2009 @ 06:12 PM
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The movie is about the bailout.

The same bailout that a lot of people in this thread were violently against. It's about governments putting the rights of corporations before the rights of people. It's about everything that a lot of people in this thread tend to post about on a regular basis.

From what I've been hearing about this movie, it's going after the businesses, banks and politicians that caused the financial meltdown last year - and the backroom deals that led to the bailouts, and a lot more. Reads like an ATS thread, frankly.

When the movie hits the theatres, will American pundits convince you all that it's about communism? Will you all become staunch defenders of corporate control of your government? Will you all back the next round of bailouts?

I wonder: If he's actually made a movie that you agree with, will you change your beliefs just to spite him? After all, if Michael Moore says it, it must be wrong, right?




posted on Jul, 9 2009 @ 06:17 PM
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Naming the movie "Capitalism" is misleading and dishonest. Just from the title and his past movies you already know he he is going to spin this into how this is capitalism at its best.

Michael Moore is a Socialist, he is putting down a system that we do not operate under. In fact all the backroom deals and everything else is Socialism or corporatism whatever you want to call it.

I am against the bailouts and backroom deals and everything else, but the point is this is what happens in socialist countries. Now he is going to try to paint it as capitalism.

Nice try though.

[edit on 9-7-2009 by Hastobemoretolife]



posted on Jul, 9 2009 @ 06:22 PM
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Actually, the title is "Capitalism: A Love Story".

So once you've finished bemoaning the fact that it's not about capitalism as you define it, you can complain that it's also misleading because it's not a love story.



posted on Jul, 9 2009 @ 06:25 PM
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Everybody has their own personal dumb ideas about Michael Moore. Michael Moore is a pig, a demon, a socialist, a capitalist, a reptilian. I understand some of his ideas may be unpopular with those living a mostly comfortable lifestyle but guess what, the world doesn't revolve around those people. I enjoy watching his films as they cut through the bull# that we are conditioned to think we can live without.



posted on Jul, 9 2009 @ 06:30 PM
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Yep, just like his movie "Sicko" and "Slacker Uprising". "Capitalism: A Love Story" is going to bash capitalism.

Michael Moore is a socialist, there is noway around it that is what he is. Now he has made a movie about the horror that is "capitalism", when in all honesty we don't have capitalism.

Just the way it is, I can tell you don't like it, but that is the truth.



posted on Jul, 9 2009 @ 07:02 PM
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Originally posted by Hastobemoretolife

Michael Moore is a socialist, there is noway around it that is what he is. Now he has made a movie about the horror that is "capitalism", when in all honesty we don't have capitalism.

Just the way it is, I can tell you don't like it, but that is the truth.


You once said this:



I'm not mad at the AIG for giving out bonuses I'm mad at the gov giving out bailouts in the first place.

It is all about getting re-elected for the politicians. It is a no-brainer that our gov is corrupt.


Now that Michael Moore is making a movie about the bailouts and exposing the corruption behind them, would you care to retract that statement?

It's here, by the way.

I just don't get it, is all. There are two or three figures in America, Moore is one, Gore is another, that seem to elicit a response from some quarters that's far, far greater than anything either one has ever been guilty of. Moore is a filmmaker. He's not the antichrist come to steal your women and rape your cattle. He's done some good work. He's also done some dreck.

All I'm saying is that this time, it looks like he's making a movie that a lot of people here will agree with. And I'm also saying that I'm waiting for the spin - because there has been spin and backlash after just about everything he's done, save Roger and Me, because it was pre-internet. But this time, it's different. With the gun control movie, I could see that one having a backlash. With the bit of the 9/11 movie that I was able to stay awake through, I could see it coming there too. But this one... what if he is actually making a movie that is saying the things that the American Libertarians have been saying all along?

I don't know. But I look forward to reading about this as the release date gets nearer. A lot of people will be slamming this movie - and given the content, it'll be interesting to watch how people justify it.



posted on Jul, 9 2009 @ 07:05 PM
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I'll reserve judgement until i've seen the movie. Deny ignorance and all that stuff.



posted on Jul, 9 2009 @ 07:28 PM
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What does my statement have to do with anything?

It further backs up my beliefs and points of this thread. Giving out bonuses is capitalism. The government giving our tax money to companies to give out bonuses is corporatism or socialism or whatever you want to call it but it sure isn't capitalism. I would classify it as corporatism.

Now he is making a movie about capitalism, which is not the economic model this country is operating off of. The little guy getting screwed. I just understand that the only way for AIG and friends could receive these bailouts is that the government passed legislation that made it possible.

You can't get mad at the companies for giving out bonuses. Sure they are crooks, and don't deserve those bonuses, but you can thank the gov for propping them up.

Did you read the letter Michael Moore wrote about Flint and the takeover of GM? Micheal Moore hasn't changed. And my prediction is that this movie is going to be bashing these companies and the current economic system we are operating under and call it Capitalism. Which it is not.



posted on Jul, 9 2009 @ 08:14 PM
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Look, I don't agree with every last thing that comes out of Michael Moore's mouth, but he's a patriot and he speaks about and participates in the political landscape in America.

I can't believe the amount of ATSers who are absolutely raging against him. This is the guy who showed mainstream america the ties between the Bush and Bin Laden families, my pet goat, and 'watch this drive' in Fahrenheit 9/11.





posted on Jul, 9 2009 @ 08:21 PM
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Yeah, the film industry is capitalistic. However, taking advantage of the system to promote counter-capitalist ideas does not make one a capitalist. Jean Luc Godard, anyone?

To put it better, here's a quote from Tom Morello, guitarist of Rage Against the Machine:


When you live in a capitalistic society, the currency of the dissemination of information goes through capitalistic channels. Would Noam Chomsky object to his works being sold at Barnes & Noble? No, because that's where people buy their books. We're not interested in preaching to just the converted. It's great to play abandoned squats run by anarchists, but it's also great to be able to reach people with a revolutionary message, people from Granada Hills to Stuttgart.


en.wikipedia.org...

As an old post by (I believe, but I could be wrong) Counterterrorist stated, "Capitalism IS the conspiracy".



posted on Aug, 23 2009 @ 03:46 PM
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Official trailer:




posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 12:46 AM
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I watched the trailer for this recently, seemed like it had more staged confrontations than a whole year of Alex Jones.

I expect it will be like the rest of his 'documentaries', docuganda that is based on truth and facts, just with many rather large distortions, and omissions that render it useless.

I think Moore does us lefties a disservice with his garbage. For example, with Sicko, I do agree with him that semi-socialized medicine can be superior to fully privatized (I'm sure we don't need to rehash all the arguments here, that's my position), but I found that in Sicko, Moore directed it with rose tinted glasses, and whitewashed all the negatives that do go along with a socialized system.

He makes it easy to undermine our whole position, when people realize the parts of his movies that are just total BS or distorted, they will assume the entirety of the movies, and the related political arguments are too.



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 01:19 AM
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There is quite a good documentary here about Michael Moore. Well not so much him as the hatred towards him. I think it's called This Divided State. If you have not seen it, watch it and see just how bigoted conservative America is.



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 09:30 AM
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What a hypocrite! He capitalizes off of controversy, and supports corporate controlled Democrats. Asshole.



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 09:44 AM
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Here are the points I have issues with... First of all, Mr. Moore is being deliberately disingenuous with the title of his movie, "Capitalism" in that it is capitalism that allows him to make, sell and profit from his movies. Just as he was shilling against rich capitalists in a previous movie only to be discovered as large shareholder in numerous corporations! We call that hypocrisy.

Further, what he purports to present in his upcoming film is, in fact, not capitalism at all. It is socialism! Taking over private corporations, investment houses and banks and dictating how they do business is NOT a form of capitalism in any sense of the word - it is pure Socialism!

The point is that Mr. Moore is an unabashed opportunist who will sensationalize any leftist talking point to make himself a profit. I don't know whether to call him a hypocrite or a genius as his audience is clearly too dim to realize that they are being taking advantage of by a man who does not practice what he preaches. But, then again... do any liberals?



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 09:51 AM
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well, seeing as you're all such good capitalists how about you let the markets decide how good the movie is. unlike the banks 2009 profit margins, you haven't paid for michael moores newest movie, so i don't see what anyone has to bitch about.



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by Matrix Rising


I don't necessarily agree with you on every point, or maybe even on most of them, because the Capitalists are the problem regardless of whether Micheal Moore is a Capitalist. They all are, as you say, yet that doesn't make them all less the problem.

But hey, we're all the problem, right?

Anyway regardless of how I feel about the situation I thought your message was very well written and really expressive of your beliefs. I will look forward to more of your posts and maybe you can change some of my beliefs as well.

[edit on 25-8-2009 by BaronVonGodzilla]



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