posted on Jul, 9 2009 @ 05:29 PM
"You my friend are a complete and utter idiot."
Isn't it... the Idiots that call people idiots?
"Do you personally know he was mentally ill?"
Well yes actually he was chronically depressed, he definitely had issues in terms of relating to other adults
and more importantly, he basically killed himself via lifestyle and choices 25 years bellow his normal life expectancy...
and that we know, I'd say... Yes He was Mentally Ill... and be able to ssay it with out even entering the child accusations
"Do you personally know he taught kids to masturbate?"
That was what the child described... that he brought out Magazines and told him about making himself feel good... and showed him and did it with
And I followed it all very closely at the time...
and the general consensus even among his fans is... that he wasn't a perverted pedo, he just kind of saw things like child and that sort of thing is
common among kids that age... and that's what I'd agree with too...
BUT, he needed to get help and DIDN'T obviously... and he paid off the family to escape his actions...
and I'll even say really a guy like MJ didn't actually belong in a Cell. But he's a tragic figure that really needed help and... not someone to
"Do you realise that NO criminal charges were ever brought against him?"
Well duhr, he paid the Family off... and that's FACT
"You haven't ever said a rude word about the guy? Hmmm... you seem to be contradicting yourself here pal."
I said I WOULDN'T Ever have said a bad word IF... IF people weren't taking the Idolization to such an extreme and annoying level
"Clown? Why is he a clown can I ask?"
Look at him... he wears what amounts to Clown Clothing... like some kind of... Circus announcer or something... he turned his face into a Mask... he
lived at an Amusement park with a Chimp and Animals and liked to perform and play with little kids. He Completely made himself into a Clown... it is
the best possible description
and some people Love Clowns...
I never liked them, I find them creepy... I think if you like kids that much you should have a relationship and then have some and be responsible not
just in money but in Life... and be a parent
Hanging a child from a window... a pretty clear back up on that MJ was... Not completely Okay in the head
"Worm bait? Yep, just like you will be when your dead, show some respect."
The worms crawl in the Worms crawl out the worms play games on your snout....
"If you can't stand him then fair enough, your entitled to your own opinion."
yes and as I said... I would have kept it to myself too...
IF i wasn't being force bombarded daily
"Your convinced about what he did? And what makes you so sure Sherlock?"
A child told his mommy what happened...
And I do understand the desire from those that kind of "get" who MJ was... to shield him, because... NO, i'll even say it again, he actually
wouldn't be a guy to put in prison, it would be like putting a 9 year old emotionally into a cell
But... this is a guy with real problems... and his music was okay... honestly... I find it to be conceptually immature.. and his performance
entertaining but again in an almost Circus like way...
He was.... Deeply troubled and Not that Originally and he was n't a great innovator or thinker, he wasn't a completely well person
and... not to be worshiped... no one really should be
"His childhood isn't an excuse to screw others up, it screwed him up. Again wheres your proof?"
Again look how it ended, did he have a good childhood? a realm of experience from which to nurture other children give the end results?
"You have no respect for anyone in my opinion, face the facts when presented. Stop assuming and being aggressive towards a situation you know nothing
I have... No respect, For people who blindly worship Idols
And regardless of points or other instances people who get all riled up about someone they never knew, who mourn for weeks... who put People on a
These people are dangerous these people (you sound like one of them btw) these people Put Kim Jong Il or Hitler or others in Power... these people
follow cults of personality
Create g-ds of men, they will LIE, RATIONALIZE (i.e MJ didn't touch children inappropriately) get mad for, fight for, argue for... even KILL FOR
an IDOL They never even knew... It's an aspect of lower intelligence to get so.... overwhelmed..
To accept the NEWS spending 2 weeks obscuring real problems and be OKAY with that, To drop your life for in the end For an IMAGE
Warnings against such behavior come from all religions... and they would be correct
I feel no... Shame in Lambasting people who walk this path, I feel no mercy, I feel nothing but... a deadness when I confront people who live in
Because I know... they haven't evolved, I know they can be led, I know they are complete sheep... lack utterly the ability to actually use free
when I see...a person, get out of bed take off work and fly across the country and put there life on hold and shed... tears like a husband or wife
just died... for a guy who when you really look at it...was really screwed up and not much more than an ACT put together... to sell albums and...
completely out of touch with reality
When I see that I consider it MY DUTY To point at those people and laugh
So OTHERS can see how blind they are, so people who are a bit more awake... or close to being AWAKE... can identify this trait...of being a complete
MINDLESS FOLLOWER and open their Eyes. Open their eyes to how they are walking in life... What they consider to be important
Because IF the MEDIA can convince you by giving a few awards to a guy promoted by their record label buddies... to Idolize him, when in reality he was
a CHILD abused by them ALLOWED to remain a Child to MILK MONEY and create...
The PERFECT FAKE ICON
If you consume that... to a degree of Idolization your doomed... your whole life, not just this argument...
If you can't SEE, If your SO BLIND that... you don't know...
He... wasn't all that talented, not in any revolutionary way frankly
He... was at least a wee bit screwed up
He... Did sleep with strangers children...
He... was a living child, he hadn't finished developing, he could be a parent, he shouldn't be in charge of kids
He was used, Spoon fed to us, taken real advantage of allowed to remain a child and YOU contribute to what They did to the guy
You people IDOLIZING him...
what was done to HIM was a Crime... His people LET him remain in that state, he was easy to Manipulate...
"Go donate to charity MJ it's good for PR... Yes you can bring Bubbles"
"I want to live in an amusement Park" "okay go get Mike a ferris wheel"
What They did to him and how they used him was SICK
and you buy his records?
Give them money?
The music was that brilliant to condone FEEDING them?
FOR ALL I KNOW... THEY COULD HAVE OD'D HIM TO GET ONE MASSIVE FINAL RUN OF SALES BECAUSE THE PEDO THING WOULD NEVER BE OVERSHADOWED
And I should contribute to this VILENESS
I can be blind to it... Idolize a man who... allowed himself to be used his whole life by seedy record company's
I should... worship that man? when he never actually even had much actual talent just...people who, helped him along, couldn't even play an
instrument... his words were.. as childish as the rest of him and people... were paid to teach him to dance etc...etc... and yeah after 40 years he
could ...he could dance? write a few words? That's.... terrible as a lifetime achievement...
they dress him up and Parade him out
and you lap it up...
Give them your money
for making a ... MAN into a BRAND, Rationalize that he was a great talent... when he was nothing more than a Criminal Victim, the way they handled and
packaged him and how well it worked... on the Sheep...
IT killed mainstream Music... probably forever... and it was, it was criminal to Use him and let him do what he did to himself, with the kids...
The Made Him a Brand and you Bought him...
Look at his old pics... He was a healthy happy kid once...
You PAY them... to do things like this...
[edit on 9-7-2009 by mopusvindictus]