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posted on Jul, 10 2009 @ 03:18 AM
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SORRY

YAWN!!!!!!!!!!!

This is my first 200th post thread. Yikes, i'm so excited.




posted on Jul, 10 2009 @ 03:48 AM
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Originally posted by Republican08

This is my first 200th post thread. Yikes, i'm so excited.


Hooray for you! Congratulations.

Maybe you need more flags and stars to get the attention of a real "psychic". I think they only read the front page threads.

If you're hoping to be remotely viewed before you go to sleep though, you might want to run to the store for some NoDoz.



posted on Jul, 10 2009 @ 03:59 AM
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I do, I know a girl addicted to NoDoz! Straight up addicted.

Yep, but people reserve flags for "are you an alien?" type threads, most real threads are never starred nor flagged. It's only the ignorant ones that are...



posted on Jul, 10 2009 @ 04:38 AM
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Originally posted by caitlinfae

Originally posted by TechHead
reply to post by Republican08
 




That's how psychics work - guess the easily guessable
and accumulate information that you provide in response.





Umm.....no it's not. That's a massive generalisation. Care to discuss it with me in another thread?

Cait x


Ummm... yes, it is. Gravity is a massive generalisation. :-)

Believing that you can tell what's going to happen because it has popped
into your head (as it was one of the things that has happened before) is
delusional and dumb, but quite understandable because it's how we people
- and all animals - learn. Associate the events in the past with our
expectations of the future. (For example, last time I ate that bee
I really didn't enjoy it - I can clearly see my bee-eating future.)

So-called Psychics have played on this for decades. A few posts
up someone said a psychic guessed his dog's name, but got everything else
wrong. We are hard-wired to remember the co-incidences, and guessing that
someones name starts with a 'J', ah John, Jonathon, Jacob? Jerry! That's
it! I knew it!

As for discussing this in another thread ... I know what you're
going to say :-) "You'll only see it if you believe" and "Your
mind is closed to such things, so the true psychics avoid your negative
energy." "You just haven't met the right spirit guide/shaman yet, and
will you do your eyes and mind will be open to the great cosmos and you'll
be freed from your prison." Am I close?

You have brown eyes. Your favourite colour is green. Your middle initial
is an 'L' and one of your close relatives has a hyphenated name. You like
yellow flowers, but daisies make you sad.



posted on Jul, 10 2009 @ 04:55 AM
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Well who would I pray too?
My eye disease has gone away, it could've been from the medicine the eye doctor gave me.
But my boss' wife, thinks that because she prayed to Lord Krishna, that the Lord took away the flesh eating disease from my eye.
So it's hard to tell, savvy?


Well said. It always amazes me when people come straight out and
attest to the Power Of Prayer. If their prayers were answered,
really answered, as in "Good morning, God here, how may I
be of assistance?" they'd be locked away. Talking to imaginary
friends is a bit too close to schizophrenia, but in your culture
it is an accepted fact? Really? It's just mental.

Glad your left eye cleared up. I'd give those contact lenses
away, if I were you.



posted on Jul, 10 2009 @ 05:20 AM
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Originally posted by Republican08
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Well who would I pray too?


Well, let's try an experiment you and I. It's called "don't fall in a ditch" and I call it this because the bible says: "Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?"

We are two blind man. You're an atheist and I'm agnostic. I don't think one should worship things they don't understand, so when I say pray, i mean just talk in your head to this higher being however you might talk to a friend. Ask all the questions you ever wanted to ask. You don't have to pick a religion. If you have to give this being a name make it something harmless like "Love" or something. What bad could ever come of that? Try that for a while and maybe you'll have a paranormal experience. You don't have to be a theist to have a paranormal experience, I wasn't. I think they just want to know you're trying. Maybe it'll work for you too, but I can't make any guarantees. I have no idea what the rules are. I've been trying my whole life to figure these things out since I saw a ghost at age 12 with my brother. You said it would be fun to see a ghost or an alien. Well, it is both great and a curse, I can tell you that. You are immediately a minority and ostracized by society, and people find you less credible just because you had an incredible experience. It actually sucks but I wouldn't trade it for anything.



posted on Jul, 10 2009 @ 05:32 AM
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I do, I know a girl addicted to NoDoz! Straight up addicted.

Yep, but people reserve flags for "are you an alien?" type threads,
most real threads are never starred nor flagged.
It's only the ignorant ones that are...



Oooh, NoDoz - I remember that evil stuff from Uni days.

"For that squirrel in a house of mirrors effect, try NoDoz!
slightly less nauseating than too much coffee and in a handy
gritty pill form."

Met a guy recently hooked on nicotine tabs. Seemed to be
popping those every 10 minutes; thought I might try one
myself. Well, you never know ...

The problem with ATS is the large number of people who are
right out on the edge. They Flag and Star anything that
is UFO or God related. Kind of lowers the tone and it's
too hard to have a rational discussion.



posted on Jul, 10 2009 @ 05:42 AM
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Hey, can I try that? Just to clear up a couple of points:

When I'm talking to my being, should I be doing it aloud?
Outside? Walking down the street? Waving my hands around?

I can think of some questions, "Why are you in my head?" "Why
are you following me around?" "Why are they always looking at me?"
"How can I be normal again?" "Are they trying to steal my soul
with those pills?"

I wouldn't worry too much about what you saw as a 12 year-old,
just what you are still thinking now.



posted on Jul, 10 2009 @ 05:49 AM
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Yes, try it with us. Three blind mice.


What I saw when I was young I still remember clearly to this day. So does my brother. I've also found people online who saw the same thing, and I looked scientifically, by not telling them what I saw (so as not to poison the barrel with my own experiences), only waiting for people to post their experiences. Then I would compare notes in private looking for similarities. I'm confident that at least two others have seen it too. It's not your typical ghost. I don't even know if I would call it that, but I don't have any other word to describe it. Light being, extra-terrestrial, angel, inter-dimensional being, all come to mind, or a completely unknown entity. It was not a figment of our imaginations.



posted on Jul, 10 2009 @ 06:03 AM
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Just a little light on details, there! What did you see and
where? What were you doing?

I've seen a few things that puzzled me at the time; I once woke
up and saw a completely still and silent being, all in white
at the foot of my bed. It was my sister sleepwalking.

I used to work shift work in a computer room that was cold and
drafty and gave everyone the creeps. One night I was leaning
over a console and felt the other Operator touch my right
elbow (short-sleeve shirt) and the heat of his breath on my neck.
When I turned to speak to him he wasn't there - not even in the
same room. He was two or three locked doors away.

That was my imagination, but it was fun and I still remember
it 30-odd years later, but it didn't change my life. :-)



posted on Jul, 10 2009 @ 06:08 AM
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What you say is true.

I've spent hours upon hours in "psychic" chatrooms watching/listening to them doing readings for other people. What makes me laugh is how they will often ask for name and DOB first, and I've even seen them ask people whether they're male or female if they have a unisex-type name. And they will usually ask the person to ask a question. Several times I have been refused a reading, because I told them I didn't have a question.

What I like most is watching the ones who tell the person receiving the reading to give only yes or no answers to what the "psychic" tells them, which they say is supposed to prove they're not "cold reading"...

Then they will make short simple statements like "You're feeling confused about something, is that right?" Yes. "Have you known this person for a long time?" No. "Oh, well it feels like you have." Yes. "But you don't know if he/she is interested in you." Yes. "Is he/she already in a relationship?" No. "Did they just break up with someone?" No. "Well, there is a past relationship that they haven't moved on from. They need to address that before they can have a relationship with you."

And then the person who received the reading thanks them and says it was oh so accurate! I can't believe they put their hearts in the hands of "psychics". Best way to mess up any relationship or possible relationship is to ask for a reading about it, yet that's what people ask about 85% of the time.

I'm still waiting for one of them to prove their abilities to me. Unfortunately, they always want to talk about relationships or try to tell me my future. One lucky shot-in-the dark doesn't do it. I was pregnant when that "psychic" told me the family dog's name. She also told me I was having a boy, but I didn't... and she had a 50/50 chance! After first telling me that my dad was dead, when he was sleeping upstairs.

Oh, and I decided to give one girl a tarot reading one time to "test my skill"... I was so accurate she practically started stalking me online asking me for another tarot reading every single day. I must be gifted myself.


Want a tarot reading, OP?



posted on Jul, 10 2009 @ 06:17 AM
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No, unforuntately, I cannot give you all the details. I will only give you what's already out there. I wish I could, but it is part of my research to not give away details. That way if someone comes along and has a similar experience, I can compare theirs to my own and know if it's a match or not or if they're just telling my own story back at me. But some of it is already out there in other forums because others have posted it. So basically it was a green bright light being shaped like a man in a dark room. It ran from a doorway on one side of the room to a doorway on the other. In my case it was flailing its arms like it was on fire or something. It had the color of a green glow stick. It took place in the basement at night. That's about all I can tell you.



posted on Jul, 10 2009 @ 06:21 AM
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Great info! That's how they do it. You know, I don't really
mind if people actually think that they do have superpowers -
good luck to them, whatever gets you through the night. I
once jumped off a garage roof in a cape, well, a tablecloth.
It went pretty well.

But I don't accept those who try to fool others to part them
from their money. I know a person who describes themselves
as a psychic and a faith healer. That person is indeed paid for
their services and claims to cure depression.

"I talk to them and then they don't have depression any more!"

I wish I could say what I really think, but it's delicate.

Here on ATS, you can say almost anything! Whoo-hoo!



posted on Jul, 10 2009 @ 06:30 AM
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No, unfortunately, I cannot give you all the details. I will only give you what's already out there. I wish I could, but it is part of my research to not give away details. That way if someone comes along and has a similar experience, I can compare theirs to my own and know if it's a match or not or if they're just telling my own story back at me. But some of it is already out there in other forums because others have posted it. So basically it was a green bright light being shaped like a man in a dark room. It ran from a doorway on one side of the room to a doorway on the other. In my case it was flailing its arms like it was on fire or something. It had the color of a green glow stick. It took place in the basement at night. That's about all I can tell you.


That's interesting, and you sure are taking it seriously.

Do spooks or inter-dimensional beings have to use doorways?
Convenient that it was at night and the thing was glowing.

I would really love to see something 'supernatural'
but I'm sure it would turn out to have a perfectly normal
explanation, just like what you saw as a child.


Time ... to die. You've done a man's job, Sir!



posted on Jul, 10 2009 @ 06:38 AM
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Originally posted by TechHead
reply to post by theyreadmymind
 



No, unfortunately, I cannot give you all the details. I will only give you what's already out there. I wish I could, but it is part of my research to not give away details. That way if someone comes along and has a similar experience, I can compare theirs to my own and know if it's a match or not or if they're just telling my own story back at me. But some of it is already out there in other forums because others have posted it. So basically it was a green bright light being shaped like a man in a dark room. It ran from a doorway on one side of the room to a doorway on the other. In my case it was flailing its arms like it was on fire or something. It had the color of a green glow stick. It took place in the basement at night. That's about all I can tell you.


That's interesting, and you sure are taking it seriously.

Do spooks or inter-dimensional beings have to use doorways?
Convenient that it was at night and the thing was glowing.

I would really love to see something 'supernatural'
but I'm sure it would turn out to have a perfectly normal
explanation, just like what you saw as a child.


Time ... to die. You've done a man's job, Sir!



I wish I could tell you the remaining details because they were very intriguing. I totally understand your scepticism. I would be sceptical too if I were you. The interesting thing about the doors is that one of them was a new bathroom, so if anybody previously lived in the house (and there was someone who died there, though I'm not convinced it was that kind of ghost) that wouldn't be a doorway they would be familiar with.

P.S. I caught the BR quote. I didn't want to put that *spoiler* in my sig.


[edit on 10-7-2009 by theyreadmymind]



posted on Jul, 10 2009 @ 06:47 AM
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Originally posted by TechHead

As for discussing this in another thread ... I know what you're
going to say :-) "You'll only see it if you believe" and "Your
mind is closed to such things, so the true psychics avoid your negative
energy." "You just haven't met the right spirit guide/shaman yet, and
will you do your eyes and mind will be open to the great cosmos and you'll
be freed from your prison." Am I close?



You're too funny!
I wouldn't have said any of that at all. None of it. And don't wind me up further by telling me you don't believe me either....


There is a bit of confusion here, and generally, I think about what a "psychic" really does. There are many different ways to work, and not all of them involve prediction. Some use divination systems, which is a relatively easy skill to learn, although when it's well done, it's remarkable. It can also be combined with clairaudience, clairsentience or clairvoyance, which are skills that usually develop separately, and can be used on their own, usually as a form of necromancy. (That's talking to dead people
)

Not all "psychics" use all the skills, and there are a large number of ego driven charlatans out there, but that is true of any sphere of work.



posted on Jul, 10 2009 @ 06:53 AM
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Ah, a new door. So not an old ghost. I wonder if it could
have been some kind of 'lightening ball' thing - people have
seen those floating down passenger aircraft aisles, and coming
down chimneys. Perhaps an open doorway was the natural, or the
least resistant, exit for the thing.

Still wouldn't rule out something natural, even if it
is something rare or new.


Heaps of great lines in BR:

We need you, Sebastian. You're our best and only friend.
Do you like our owl?
It's too bad she won't live! But then again, who does?

Best film eva!



posted on Jul, 10 2009 @ 06:56 AM
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Originally posted by TechHead

But I don't accept those who try to fool others to part them
from their money.



Actually, to be perfectly honest with you, a few years ago I signed up on a site called Kasamba and made a profile saying that I was a tarot reader, but added that I would only ask the cards for "a perspective of the past and present, with which to enter the future on a more positive path". And charged I think .70/min, although there were some on the site charging $10/min or MORE.

I did 5 or 6 readings for people, but never reached the payout threshold of the site. One time, a guy contacted me and asked me to tell him about his past lives (apparently he didn't read my profile) and I apologized to him and told him that wasn't something I could do.

When I told my husband about it he said "WT*?! All you had to do was open the Concise History of the World book and start telling him something. You're never going to make any money on that site if you don't tell people what they want to hear."

And I never logged on again... that was entirely too much power over the hearts and minds of (very fragile) people for me, even knowing my intentions were good.

But to each his/her own. I won't rule out the possible existence of someone with some sort of "supernatural gifts", but if they're out there, the charlatans sure do overshadow them.



posted on Jul, 10 2009 @ 07:06 AM
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Ah, not trying to wind you up at all; I simply don't
believe anything of what you just said. Not
a bit of it.

The only thing 'proven' about clair_____s and necrophilia,
I mean necromancy, is that they don't exist at all
and have been in fact confidence tricks for decades.

Almost everybody knows that. Why don't you?

When you say a 'large number' of charlatans, what proportion
do you think? Seventy, eighty, ninety percent? We just
differ a bit on the numbers. I say 100% are fakes or just
a bit sad and delusional.

Think about it for a second; if there was such a thing as
a psychic, could lotteries and casinos exist?

"Psychic wins Lottery! Again!"



posted on Jul, 10 2009 @ 07:08 AM
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Originally posted by TechHead
reply to post by theyreadmymind
 



Ah, a new door. So not an old ghost. I wonder if it could
have been some kind of 'lightening ball' thing - people have
seen those floating down passenger aircraft aisles, and coming
down chimneys. Perhaps an open doorway was the natural, or the
least resistant, exit for the thing.

Still wouldn't rule out something natural, even if it
is something rare or new.


Heaps of great lines in BR:

We need you, Sebastian. You're our best and only friend.
Do you like our owl?
It's too bad she won't live! But then again, who does?

Best film eva!



Yep, except it was a basement and there were no doors to the outside. Also, it had two arms, two legs, a midsection, and a head. It's legs ran and it's arms flailed.



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