Scientists Confirm U.S. Has World’s Biggest Oil Reserves, page 2
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reply posted on 9-7-2009 @ 06:39 AM by nixie_nox
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the part I couldn't fit.

# 213 Niue: 20 bbl/day 2006
Total: 85,085,664 bbl/day
Weighted average: 399,463.2 bbl/day


The world uses 399,463 BILLION barrels of oil, a DAY.

wow


reply posted on 9-7-2009 @ 06:48 AM by nixie_nox
reply to post by AshleyD



I think you have an interesting point Ash, but people forget that oil was already discovered in the US.

Oil was in use, but very expensive because it was hard to get, so it hadn't revolutionized things yet.
There is much debate over who first produced it, the Chinese discovered it frist(of course) 2500 years ago.but credit for the first oil rig goes to Pennyslvania, though some historians contest it and say it is West Virginia, or even China for using a bamboo stick. Though I don't think a bamboo stick was that productive.

Don't know whether to love or hate the guy. But I guess it was bound to be produced anyways. But if people were not addicted yet, I wonder what would of developed.

The most important oil well ever drilled was in the middle of quiet farm country in northwestern Pennsylvania in 1859. For this was one of the first successful oil wells that was drilled for the sole purpose of finding oil. Known as the Drake Well, after "Colonel" Edwin Drake, the man responsible for the well, it began an international search for petroleum, and in many ways eventually changed the way we live.

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As usual, the guy died broke.

He never patented it. If he has any successors, I wonder if they curse his name every day?

Drake did not possess the good business acumen that his "followers" did. He failed to patent his drilling invention, so he never collected royalties from future wells using it. Then he lost all of his savings in oil speculation in 1863. In 1872, the State of Pennsylvania granted him an annuity of $1,500. Edwin Drake died in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, on November 8, 1880.



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And the oil didn't last long.

Nestled quietly in the rolling hills of Venango County in Northwest Pennsylvania is Pithole, a ghost town located just of Rt. 227 between the small towns of Pleasantville and Plumer. During the oil boom of the late 1860's Pithole City was a rather large boom town. As a matter of fact America’s largest boom town. Oil was first discovered at Pithole in January of 1865, just six years after Colonel Edwin Drake discovered oil near Titusville, which is about 15 miles northwest. By September of the same year, Pithole had grown from a lowly farming area to a boom town of 15,000 people. This entire area is considered the birthplace of the oil industry. Oil wells popped up on every piece of land for miles, while some did not produce much oil, many did. As a matter of fact, there were several small towns that sprang from this oil boom, although most of them are still here. By January of 1866, Pithole was vanishing. Fires, and over drilling for oil caused money to run out and oil to dry up. People started moving on to bigger and better things.


this article is an interesting read.

The city where the oil was discovered is now a ghost town.
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I think most of the US is like that. Periodic pockets but nothing substantial.




[edit on 9-7-2009 by nixie_nox]


reply posted on 16-7-2009 @ 02:32 PM by poet1b
From my understanding, Canada has the most oil reserves in the world, but it is is in oil sands, which will be far more expensive to refine.

www.gasandoil.com...

15-01-02 The worlds largest oil reserve is not lying under Saudi Arabian deserts or under the sea, it is clinging to grains of sand in the Canadian boreal forest of Northern Alberta. Between 1.7 tn and 2.5 tn barrels of crude oil, 300 bn of which are expected to be recoverable, are spread like topsoil across thousands of sq km of Alberta forest and tundra.
And thanks to new technology being developed by many large oil groups, it may offer a seemingly limitless supply of North American petroleum products with the scoop of a steam shovel. "Alberta is in a very enviable position to supply its own needs and those of its trading partners over the next 50-100 years," Murray Smith, Albertas Minister of Energy said ahead of his speech to a conference on North American energy in Washington.




reply posted on 18-7-2009 @ 01:37 PM by soontide
Two things I want to point out about the extraction of crude oil.

First, the idea that it would take ten years to take advantage of a new oil find is a fallacy. If it really took that long, then the oil industry would have gone under decades ago. The truth is that a mobile drilling rig can be transported to a location on about 5 semi trailers, put together in about a week and begin drilling about a day later. This is how most current oil fields work. Gone are the days of fields of oil rigs drilling over a large area. Most oil fields consist of half a dozen rigs being moved from site to site over a large area. The actual impact of these rigs is quite small. You don't have massive oil slicks when they actually strike oil (who would want to waste that much oil?) nor do you have rusted hulks left behind when they move on now. You have a small area, less than half an acre, that is utilized by the rig crew and equipment.

The second reason that this would not take 10 years is that most oil extracted from fields is pumped out via tanker truck. These trucks haul the crude to pumping stations where it is piped to refineries. In a pinch, many of these trucks can take the oil directly to the refinery.

Thus, with this bit of knowledge, it would take maybe a few months to get production going in some of these oil fields. Not 10 years.

Now, I will concede that some of the oil that is locked up in oil sands and shale would be harder to extract and may take longer to see a return on. I can even see a number like 10 years to reach peak production, but the idea that no oil will be produced for 10 years is a bit of a stretch.

On a side note, I do believe that we need to focus on alternate energy instead of oil. The problem is that any alternate technology will take much longer than 10 years from current technology to get to the point where it can replace oil as a primary source. The exception is natural Gas, of which the US DOES have the largest reserve in the world. It burns cleaner than other fossil fuels and produces almost as much energy per pound as does oil gases. Of course, there is very little being done to make this source more available. It could very easily replace fuel oil for heating homes in the Northeastern US (Most of the rest of the country already uses it guys) and can be made available for use in automobiles just as easily. In fact, most current engines could handle burning it quite well.


reply posted on 18-7-2009 @ 03:05 PM by poet1b
reply to post by amfirst



Really? Where are these massive reserves?

The U.S. has a lot of small pockets of oil, which are more expensive to tap, and transport, because the costs to set up are higher because these drilling rigs have to be moved everytime an oil well dries out. Transportation of the oil from the site is also more expensive when the site is only temporary. There are also those times when the amount of oil is very small, or even non-existent, and the set up costs are a loss.

Also, added to the cost of extraction of oil is exploration for oil, then transportation from the source, and refining. In the old days when huge reserves were tapped, costs were way down. Once the oil was found, all that had to be done is keep pumping out of the same location, set up infrastructure to support the site, and the well lasted for years.

Saudi Arabia has been pumping sea water into their wells for over a decade now, and the quality of their crude is dropping quickly. Iran and Iraq peaked over a decade ago. It is twilight in the desert, and there are no more huge reserves like what was discovered in the Middle East.

Anyone claiming that we haven't hit peak oil is ignoring the facts.



reply posted on 19-7-2009 @ 10:40 PM by ANNED
Originally posted by soontide
Two things I want to point out about the extraction of crude oil.

First, the idea that it would take ten years to take advantage of a new oil find is a fallacy. If it really took that long, then the oil industry would have gone under decades ago. The truth is that a mobile drilling rig can be transported to a location on about 5 semi trailers, put together in about a week and begin drilling about a day later. This is how most current oil fields work. Gone are the days of fields of oil rigs drilling over a large area. Most oil fields consist of half a dozen rigs being moved from site to site over a large area. The actual impact of these rigs is quite small. You don't have massive oil slicks when they actually strike oil (who would want to waste that much oil?) nor do you have rusted hulks left behind when they move on now. You have a small area, less than half an acre, that is utilized by the rig crew and equipment.

The second reason that this would not take 10 years is that most oil extracted from fields is pumped out via tanker truck. These trucks haul the crude to pumping stations where it is piped to refineries. In a pinch, many of these trucks can take the oil directly to the refinery.

Thus, with this bit of knowledge, it would take maybe a few months to get production going in some of these oil fields. Not 10 years,


You need permits to drill for oil. You need permits to build pipelines.
You need permits to build refineries.(refineries are built to reflect the oil they plan to refine in them. change the grade or type of crude oil and the refinery has to be redesigned and modified) most refineries in the US are built to refine light crud from texas or the middle east. not crude from other areas of the world.
The exceptions are some west coast refineries that take calif heavy crude and alaskan crude and blend it with arab oil to use it in there refineries.

The environmentalist want no more oil use.
They will try to block the drilling, moving and refining of this oil with any means possible including lawsuits.
It will take years (10+) without the politicians just to get the permits.
Throw in the democrats and there global warming scam and likely it will take 30+ years just to get the field into full production if ever.


reply posted on 26-7-2009 @ 10:38 PM by FritosBBQTwist
reply to post by AshleyD



Living in one of the richer countries of the world seems to bring along bad ethics for the human species across the pond...


It is like living off chocolate cake. You are not starving, but damn that is a bad diet!

Okay, bad analogy, I just like cake.



reply posted on 2-8-2009 @ 09:03 PM by poet1b
reply to post by Vinciguerra



Sorry, but wrong. Oil production is dropping, and the high quality crude production has been dropping since 2005. 2005 was peak oil. They managed to squeeze a bit more into the supply line until 2007, but it was all from lower grade crude, that wouldn't hardly sale in years past. These fact are well known, not disputable.

What is even more indisputable is that oil well discoveries of large finds has gone away. It has been a while since a significant oil reserve has been found, and the number of finds have been very few for half a century now. Those major finds were not nearly as big as discoveries in the past.. By far, the largest portion of the worlds oil has came from major finds, specifically the Middle East.

Texas and those areas dried up long ago. The Gulf of Mexico is drying up, the North Sea, and the Middle East is drying up. All these wells they are tapping now weren't profitable to tap in the past, and they will not last that long.

These are the facts, you can look them up yourself.


reply posted on 2-8-2009 @ 09:53 PM by RussianScientists
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Sorry Nixie Nox and the rest of you, but you have your figures incorrect as to the amount of barrels of oil used per day.

The correct figure of Barrels of Oil used per day is approximately 86 Million Barrels of Oil per Day.

Not as you have stated Nixie Nox:

Quote of Nixie Nox:
"the part I couldn't fit.
# 213 Niue: 20 bbl/day 2006
Total: 85,085,664 bbl/day
Weighted average: 399,463.2 bbl/day
The world uses 399,463 BILLION barrels of oil, a DAY."
Unquote

If Nixie Nox would have looked at her total that she has written down, then yes the 85,085,664 figure would have been correct for 2006; but instead Nixie Nox wrote down the Weighted average and then MISTOOK "BBL" as Billions of Barrels, and that is incorrect; BBL means Barrels.

Just wanted to clarify the facts so that future readers don't get messed up also.




reply posted on 15-11-2009 @ 03:38 PM by wanderingwaldo
Originally posted by AngelHeart
The problem with oil shale is the process of drilling and heating it to produce an oil-like substance. Shale is not the same thing as pure grade petroleum. As of now, the harvesting of shale would not be cost effective.


Oil Shale


[edit on 19-7-2009 by AngelHeart]


Exactly, and this is from an engineer who has worked on tar sands projects. Tar sand is abrasive, contaminated, sour (Sulfur-laden) crap, which weighs a ton before processing (literally, 1T Sand = 1 Barrel). Shale is even worse. It is trying to extract oil from rock through heating. In-situ heating destroys groundwater and moving mountians uses a lot of energy.

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