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Originally posted by tezzajw
Originally posted by Chaoticar
As I've said elsewhere, "open borders for everyone!" is alright...until Third Worlders decide that they've had enough of starvation under corrupt regimes, and want to live in your house.
That's where you're clearly wrong. I doubt that they would want to live in my house. I bet that they would rather live in their own house.
Earth should be a free planet with open borders. Closed borders equals closed, fearful mind.
Originally posted by SR
Typical off many people and socialists i've met in my life, when the crunch comes to the crunch they are all talk and no action.
Originally posted by SR
How do you know we wouldn't want to live in your house?? For all you know some of us could actually be in Africa on laptops?? Who are you to presume anything?
Originally posted by SR
You placate and profuse a great deal about what ''should and shouldn't happen and how the world should be run'' yet fail to lead by example like as i've mentioned before so many people and socialists i've previously met in my lifetime.
Originally posted by SR
How can you sit and judge others on a faux moral highground when YOUR not prepared to back up what you believe in or take the first steps in making it a reality.
Originally posted by SR
See the rank hypocricsy?
Originally posted by tezzajw
reply to post by SR
Hey, thanks for bumping my thread again with your off-topic nonsense. You really need to learn to let go of things that are trivially unimportant. I can't help that you misread my OP, it's your problem, not mine. I can't help that you called me ignorant in your first post, it's your problem, not mine. That's your private rant to stew about.
Did you read what happened to the Tampa after it got turned back?
Australia has to deal with a lot of 'illegal' immigrants each year. Did you know that there's a place called Woomera that used to house detention centres for 'illegal' immigrants? Look it up and see how civilised Australia was to already desperate people.
[edit on 9-7-2009 by tezzajw]
Originally posted by SR
Mate i'm just proving your ignorance so you hopefully learn from it, again i've no problems with my reading capabilities as we can all clearly see you have written what you have.
Originally posted by SR
Again your making your arguement very hard for yourself, So if deportation centres where scrapped you would i assume correct me if i'm wrong;
Originally posted by tezzajw
Originally posted by SR
Typical off many people and socialists i've met in my life, when the crunch comes to the crunch they are all talk and no action.
Wow, this is the second reply that you've made to my one post!!! Cool!!!
Thanks for bumping the thread for me. Unfortunately for you, I'm a human, not a socialist. I don't subscribe to being in any club. Try again.
Originally posted by SR
How do you know we wouldn't want to live in your house?? For all you know some of us could actually be in Africa on laptops?? Who are you to presume anything?
You really do enjoy arguing obscure trivial details that don't matter. Why would anyone want to live in someone else's house, when they can have their own house instead? Think about it and get back to me in your next series of replies.
Originally posted by SR
You placate and profuse a great deal about what ''should and shouldn't happen and how the world should be run'' yet fail to lead by example like as i've mentioned before so many people and socialists i've previously met in my lifetime.
Wow. I've done all that it this thread, have I? Are you focussing your energy and effort for this thread, or for me? I feel so special.
Originally posted by SR
How can you sit and judge others on a faux moral highground when YOUR not prepared to back up what you believe in or take the first steps in making it a reality.
A-huh. Please, list the following people who I have judged in this thread. Me judging others, when I state that there should be no borders on planet Earth and that we should all be able to coexist. Right...
Originally posted by SR
See the rank hypocricsy?
Yeah, I see it alright! And I know that I'll keep seeing it everytime that you reply!
Please, do reply though. Your efforts to bump this thread are greatly appreciated. I know how other ATS users might want to read on-topic discussion, after by-passing your off-topic nonsense.
Originally posted by SR
Again my friend grasping those replies and context is causing you grief.
Originally posted by SR
You judged the guy in the article for his opinion and i qoute:
''A-huh. More common sense and insight from a political leader... Not. ''
He's a person.
Originally posted by SR
Why can't i come live in your house and country yet you said all borders shouldn't exist.
Originally posted by Mdv2
I don't want illegal immigration either, but killing illegal immigrants is way beyond acceptable. The BNP should be ashamed for disrespecting Western values. Instead, simply send them back upon arrival. With an EU coast guard, this problem could be approached more effectively.
Originally posted by tezzajw
Originally posted by SR
Again my friend grasping those replies and context is causing you grief.
Hey, thanks for bumping my thread again with your off-topic nonsense. You really need to learn to let go of things that are trivially unimportant. I can't help that you misread my OP, it's your problem, not mine. I can't help that you called me ignorant in your first post, it's your problem, not mine. That's your private rant to stew about.
Originally posted by SR
You judged the guy in the article for his opinion and i qoute:
''A-huh. More common sense and insight from a political leader... Not. ''
He's a person.
Yeah, I sure did judge him and call him a jerk and I stand by it. He wants to sink boats, full of people, to discourage them from trying to safely land. He's a jerk. Now, keep on listing the other people that I have judged. This is great stuff!
Originally posted by SR
Why can't i come live in your house and country yet you said all borders shouldn't exist.
I have the feeling that you haven't really thought this statement through.
People coexisting, respect each other's right to privacy in their own homes. I don't wish anyone else to live in my home. However, there's vacant land a few blocks away - they can build a home there. They can pitch a tent in the nearby children's park... I really don't mind.
The fact that you can't distinguish between privately owned property and national borders is quite telling.
However, it does raise the issue about the skewed amounts of property that some people own. Inequity exists when people indulge in far more than they need.
[edit on 9-7-2009 by tezzajw]
Originally posted by SR
Thanks for admitting your mistake finally let's hope we can move on now that hurdle has been jumped over and your happy with owning up to what you said. Glad you manned up and took responsiblity their.
Originally posted by SR
Is the elected guy who states stuff like this in public to be criticised a coward or the people who sit their crowing and judging from the side lines or behind computer screens who then don't back up or implement their own proposed opinions, beliefs or plans in real life the cowards in the situation.
Originally posted by SR
And lol i have thought it out very well i'm afraid that's why if you won't let be stay at your house i'll ask you now to build me a house in that vacant lot. Go on no arguements or tittle tattle go build me a house in that vacant spot.
Originally posted by SR
No please tell us all what you assume is public and private land.
Originally posted by SR
I've got the grim feeling i'm dealing with another ''property is theft (unless it's my property)'' believer. Hence the inability to realise the obvious, but i will be happy to oblige in explaining the ramifications and failures of your view.
Originally posted by SR
We're not going back to your mistake yet again are we?
I thought you'd accepted you had IMPLIED African immigrants could simply hop onto a plane as you put in your own words or are you having trouble at recognising that African immigrants are human beings like ''WE'' the rest of us as you put in your own words.
Originally posted by SR
Yes i agreed with calling him a jerk as well.
Originally posted by SR
But would you call the people who elected him on a platform to air such concerns cowards then if at all?? for electing someone to say in public what they maybe can't i assume??
Originally posted by SR
But mate what if i can't get a job?? where will i go?? what will i do?? what if i don't earn enough money to pay for hostels or to pay rent?? what if i need transport but can't afford it?? medical care i can't pay for it till i have a job?
Originally posted by SR
I want to come to your country you and your citizens should provide me with housing to live in and some money to get me started in my new life. How do i get contact with the charities when I land in my boat?
Originally posted by SR
I know the difference between public and private land as a construction worker it's my job
Originally posted by SR
But you have failed to take into account that for a repersentative of the people to be saying things such as ''we should sink their boats'' and stay elected they must be motivated by the public they rerpersent in the first place.
Originally posted by SR
Are people who oppose immigration and open border policies racist in your opinion or they just ''FAIL'' to understand your viewpoint???
He denied advocating that anyone should be "murdered at sea", saying: "They can throw them a life raft and they can go back to Libya.
(link below)
''We didn't see them, but we definitely heard them screaming,'' said Nicola Notarrigo, owner of a beachfront restaurant. ''Then, moments later, we couldn't hear them anymore.''
More than 300 African migrants are feared to have drowned after their boats capsized off the coast of Libya, the International Organizations for Migration (IOM) said on Tuesday. Up to three vessels lacking lifeboats are believed to have sunk off Libya in heavy winds as they headed for Italy, while a fourth boat in difficulty was towed to shore, a spokesman said.
The Maltese military recovered on July 10 the bodies of three would-be immigrants, while officials described the expected arrival on the island nation of over 100 illegal immigrants as a “crisis situation.” The bodies - including that of a pregnant woman - were pulled from the water by the crew on board a military patrol boat which was returning to Malta after taking on board 25 would-be immigrants. The group, with their boat in distress, had been rescued earlier by a Maltese trawler, officials said. In a separate incident, an Italian patrol boat, operating with the European Union agency for external border security, Frontex, brought 86 would-be immigrants to Malta earlier the same today.
Seventy would-be illegal African immigrants to Europe perished when their boat sank in the Mediterranean Sea, according to eight companions rescued Wednesday off Malta, officials said.
Some 380 illegal immigrants have died at sea over the first six months of this year in the Sicily Canal, the Mediterranean strip between Sicily and Tunisia, the aid charity Doctors Without Borders estimates.