Blitz of "Cyber Attacks," Leading Up to Cybersecurity Act of 2009, page 4

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reply posted on 9-7-2009 @ 01:13 PM by BenIndaSun

reply to post by MOFreemason

Why can't The State put all of their websites onto an intranet and leave the public/global internet alone?

The internet is our way to get the other side/alternative of any story. Without the internet, I would not have learned about the other side of fluoridated water supplies, vaccine safety, or the massive amount of anti-psychotic drug use in the U. STATE of A. As a pharmacy student, I need and want to know this.

reply posted on 9-7-2009 @ 01:29 PM by MOFreemason

Originally posted by BenIndaSun
reply to post by MOFreemason

Why can't The State put all of their websites onto an intranet and leave the public/global internet alone?

The internet is our way to get the other side/alternative of any story. Without the internet, I would not have learned about the other side of fluoridated water supplies, vaccine safety, or the massive amount of anti-psychotic drug use in the U. STATE of A. As a pharmacy student, I need and want to know this.

I never even though about that. That would solve their cybersecurity concerns wouldn't it...and then let the rest of us be happy with our system.

reply posted on 9-7-2009 @ 02:24 PM by Firefly_

Is it any coincidence this article appears on channel4.com it was also briefly mentioned on the main news program:

A More4 News investigation finds that more than 8,000 dangerous viruses have infected NHS computers in the last financial year, with a significant number of cases impacting on patient care. Hospital computer

On 18 November 2008, a computer virus called the Mytob worm caused havoc in three major London hospitals when it spread so quickly that it overloaded computer networks.

At Barts, the Royal London and the London Chest Hospital, services were affected, including accessing blood tests, X-ray and patient administration.

www.channel4.com...

reply posted on 9-7-2009 @ 02:32 PM by Firefly_

Originally posted by BenIndaSun
reply to post by MOFreemason

Why can't The State put all of their websites onto an intranet and leave the public/global internet alone?

The internet is our way to get the other side/alternative of any story. Without the internet, I would not have learned about the other side of fluoridated water supplies, vaccine safety, or the massive amount of anti-psychotic drug use in the U. STATE of A. As a pharmacy student, I need and want to know this.

Personally, I think they already have done so. These people arent stupid, they will not put anything they want to keep classified on a network potentially accessible from the outside.

They need to be connected to the internet in order to commit their false flag operations, and are just playing dumb. They know people will attempt to hack them so they just put stuff on their accessible network to satisfy hackers/conspiracy theorists etc.

This cull on the internet is needed by them for the exact reasons you are talking about. Freedom of information is their weakness, eliminate the main ways to spread it, and we are back to the dark ages.

reply posted on 9-7-2009 @ 02:48 PM by Blaine91555

reply to post by MOFreemason

I'm no fan of Infowars or Prison Planet and the often hyped exaggerated articles, but this time the point seems valid.

This is some scary legislation for sure. This sounds to me very much like the situation in China.

Obama is constantly finding ways to give more and more control to the government and himself. I'm starting to get plenty worried about this fellow. Lets hope he looses the complete control he has the next elections.

It is a bad idea for one Party to control all branches of government. Very bad

Obama is clearly a crazed control freak. Just watching him speak gives me the shivers. How is it so many people don't see that? The dumbing down of America is complete it seems. Hello 1984.

reply posted on 9-7-2009 @ 03:12 PM by MOFreemason

Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by MOFreemason

I'm no fan of Infowars or Prison Planet and the often hyped exaggerated articles, but this time the point seems valid.

This is some scary legislation for sure. This sounds to me very much like the situation in China.

Obama is constantly finding ways to give more and more control to the government and himself. I'm starting to get plenty worried about this fellow. Lets hope he looses the complete control he has the next elections.

It is a bad idea for one Party to control all branches of government. Very bad Obama is clearly a crazed control freak. Just watching him speak gives me the shivers. How is it so many people don't see that? The dumbing down of America is complete it seems. Hello 1984.

It sounds as though you and I may be quite aligned in thought. The Infowars and PrisonPlanet can really hype and fearmonger a news story, but this time, it seems as though the legislation speaks for itself.

We definitely need to keep our eye on this bill as it progresses through Congress.

reply posted on 9-7-2009 @ 03:17 PM by MOFreemason

Ten of thousands of virus-contaminated personal computers in South Korea are programmed to "self-destruct" on Friday, government officials warn.

The warning comes after a third consecutive day of cyber attacks against South Korean government websites, taking many of them offline for hours. U.S. government websites, including websites of the White House, the U.S. State Department and the New York Stock Exchange, have experienced similar attacks over the past week. None of them were affected.

Both South Korea and the United States have said they suspect the North Korean government to be behind the cyber attacks.
news.bnonews.com...

This continues to sound like a false-flag, using North Korea as a scapegoat. Is the purpose to push forward the Cybersecurity Act of 2009 legislation or to arouse military conflict with North Korea though?

Is this becoming an "act of war?"

reply posted on 9-7-2009 @ 03:39 PM by KSPigpen

It doesn't have anything to do with the security of THEIR systems. They will be fine. Before the masses jumped on this internet thingy we have today, it was used solely by the feds. They outgrew it...saw the dangers and limitations inherent in it and moved on to something else.

When I was a kid I got my dad's old watch for my birthday. Same principle.

It's all about the information. It's about the potential to use it as a way to express opinions, or garner support.

The internet was designed to be resilient. There is a lot of money changing hands on it every second of every day, but it's not THEIR money, it's ours. Their money is not exposed to the dangers that ours is.

The internet is a fairly complicated animal in that it IS very resilient, but at the same time, numerous things have to work correctly.

I would challenge you to learn about DNS, Root Servers and just how easy it is to disable the ability to 'find' anything on the internet. If you can't get to it, it doesn't matter if it's turned off or not.

If you believe that the Internet is too big, or too important, or that too many people would lose too much money to make it a valid target for control and elimination, you are deluding yourself.

The 'noise' and simplistic nature of the ongoing attacks absolutely REEKS of false flag or a different type of distraction.

It could very well be propaganda to gain support for legislation, but I would be more inclined to guess that it is a smokescreen, flooding logs and occupying man hours, to distract from a more concentrated effort at a deeper target.

reply posted on 9-7-2009 @ 04:03 PM by ironbutterflyrusted

I agree with Strictsum regarding creating servers.

If the masses are persuaded to connect to this new controlling, influencing, secure, information collecting, manipulating system...which they will be, the web as is now will become a renegade, fractured system, that can only exist by word of mouth. If any one provides/advertises an internet meeting point. it will be infiltrated, monitored and probably attacked by very nasty viruses, a mutating digital swine flu designed to shut you down and reveal what you have been doing if you seek help/repairs.

The propoganda will spread lies and negativity about the beliefs, aims and plans of this minority, encouraging citizens to reveal these shadowy operators byway of rewards, just like benefit cheats.

I personally do not see a way out of this, but I am no expert, I`m just joining the dots.

reply posted on 9-7-2009 @ 04:05 PM by Truth4hire

Well I see the other thread was closed.... Which had much more exposure.

Hmmm.

A false flag is happening right now, which will result in complete control of the internet.

Anyone fail to see the importance of this subject?

Reply and flag while you still can...

[edit on 9-7-2009 by Truth4hire]

reply posted on 9-7-2009 @ 04:34 PM by Truth4hire

Linking this to

www.abovetopsecret.com...

20000 Computers set to self destruct by virus tomorrow.

It is so obvious a false flag attack it is almost pathetic...

reply posted on 9-7-2009 @ 04:38 PM by MOFreemason

Originally posted by Truth4hire
Linking this to

www.abovetopsecret.com...

20000 Computers set to self destruct by virus tomorrow.

It is so obvious a false flag attack it is almost pathetic...

I appreciate your post. I haven't had many people on here come right out and agree with certainty, that it's lookin' more and more like a false flag attack.

reply posted on 9-7-2009 @ 04:56 PM by Truth4hire

Originally posted by MOFreemason

Originally posted by Truth4hire
Linking this to

www.abovetopsecret.com...

20000 Computers set to self destruct by virus tomorrow.

It is so obvious a false flag attack it is almost pathetic...

I appreciate your post. I haven't had many people on here come right out and agree with certainty, that it's lookin' more and more like a false flag attack.

Right back at you, hang in there.

It is frustrating to see this get zero attention...

I guess when the major filters are in place end of this year you will be posthumously awarded a medal for spotting the biggest loss of freedom in the history of mankind. (regulation of the Internet) Pity no one will be able to comment on it though because all we will be able to surf are newspeak sites.

reply posted on 9-7-2009 @ 05:21 PM by hillbilly4rent

All I'v got to say is "hello sneakernet."

This may be a F/F just about any network friendly person can reroute a IP address to make it look like its someone ells just look at the first set of numbers of a IP and that can purdy much tell what part of the world it came from

reply posted on 9-7-2009 @ 07:26 PM by MOFreemason

Apparently more "attacks" on the government's precious websites.

The US State Department said Thursday its website came under cyberattack for a fourth day running as it tried to prevent further attacks.

"I'm just going to speak about our website, the state.gov website. There's not a high volume of attacks. But we're still concerned about it. They are continuing," State Department spokesman Ian Kelly told reporters.

South Korean lawmakers were quoted as saying Wednesday that South Korea's intelligence service believes North Korea or its sympathizers may have staged the attack.

But Kelly added: "I have no information... of North Korean involvement. I have... nothing that I can confirm."
www.breitbart.com...

I'm sure that if North Korea really wanted to hack into these systems and cause some havoc, they easily could.

Disrupting website access??? Zzzzzzzzzzz

reply posted on 9-7-2009 @ 07:59 PM by ButterCookie

reply to post by MOFreemason

People (sheeple) gotta wake up!! This is most definately a false flag operation to get support for a Cyber Czar to basically monitor each google search, email, forum, thread, etc.....I said this earlier; they don't want anymore folks "waking' up by watching internet documentaries like Zeitgeist or others....

and folks, this is SO in line with Obama's Preventative Detention Center program....yep...the "Thought Police"......it gives Homeland Security the authority to designate "homegrown" terrrorists and

1. be detained an indefinate amount of time
2. do not have to establish evidence
3. detainee will not get a trial

Open the FEMA/Concentration Camps to house 'homegrown, domestic terrorists base on only the suspicion that we MAY do something in the future.

Hello George Orweill's 1984

[edit on 9-7-2009 by ButterCookie]

reply posted on 9-7-2009 @ 09:57 PM by joe82

Why isn't this thread featured on the front page of hot threads? We have close to 60 posts and 17+ flags??????

reply to post by MOFreemason

Because half the post are from the you, and there was a similar thread that was on the front page and someone made sure it got shut down.

reply posted on 10-7-2009 @ 05:04 AM by Truth4hire

Originally posted by joe82

Why isn't this thread featured on the front page of hot threads? We have close to 60 posts and 17+ flags??????

reply to post by MOFreemason

Because half the post are from the you, and there was a similar thread that was on the front page and someone made sure it got shut down.

Yeah, this was yours that gotten shut down.

What a load of balony in here lately.

The important issues get shelved real quick.

No matter, this particular false flag will not go away, people even in here will realise the truth when it hits their internet connection.

reply posted on 10-7-2009 @ 05:05 AM by VigilantOne

I honestly believe in my heart the wave of cyber attacks is a false-flag operation. Welcome to 1984, people.

reply posted on 10-7-2009 @ 09:55 AM by MOFreemason

ABC News featured an online article on the recent "blitz of attacks," and apparently North Korea is no longer the sole target of responsibility.

The KCC said host websites believed behind the original attacks were based in Germany, Austria, Georgia, the United States and South Korea. The location of the hackers behind the attacks was still unknown, it said.

South Korean MPs briefed by the National Intelligence Service said although websites in North Korea were not on the list, Pyongyang was still considered a suspect, Yonhap news agency said.

Internet access is denied to almost everyone in impoverished North Korea, a country that cannot produce enough electricity to light its cities at night. Intelligence sources say leader Kim Jong-il launched a cyber warfare unit several years ago.