Blitz of "Cyber Attacks," Leading Up to Cybersecurity Act of 2009, page 3
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reply posted on 9-7-2009 @ 09:04 AM by Clark Savage Jr.
reply to post by MOFreemason



My apologies as I in no way meant to imply you, personally, or this post was misleading. In fact,the topic has information that does need to be shared. Rather,I was referring to the net in general(as 'pied piper') and its potential to mislead and misdirect.

And Im against any over regulation or monitoring of the net just as most of us are. Its just the validity of the net as Truth-spreading-tool-of-freedom that I question. Clearly, some see the net as MORE than a simple diversion/entertainment/potential basic research tool and suspend all or most critical thinking where net gathered information is concerned. To me, that's potentially detrimental and we all know we see it on this very site daily.


Frankly then, any regulating it might be an aggravation , unneeded and just another government intrusion into ones private life but it should hardly be viewed in my opinion as a huge strike against truth or the spreading of truth. Ive felt for years now that the net should be required to post a simple disclaimer such as phone psychics and others:


"For entertainment purposes only, take everything contained herein at face value."*

In my view, that should solve most of the need for any regulating or need to control.


*(Granted, other 'news' sources should contain the same disclaimer. Hopefully that would encourage more critical thinking and common sense judgements.)

[edit on 9-7-2009 by Clark Savage Jr.]


reply posted on 9-7-2009 @ 09:05 AM by MOFreemason
reply to post by nine-eyed-eel



Man, you absolutely nailed it! The media would be all over a story like that and the stay-at-home moms/dads watching cable news all day would see that story running non-stop. They'd be calling Washington demanding CYBERSECURITY FOR EVERYBODY NOW!!!!!!!!!!

Lord help us and hope you're wrong!



reply posted on 9-7-2009 @ 09:07 AM by MOFreemason
Originally posted by Clark Savage Jr.
reply to
post by MOFreemason


My apologies as I in no way meant to imply you, personally, or this post was misleading. In fact,the topic has information that does need to be shared. Rather,I was referring to the net in general and its potential to mislead and misdirect.


No troubles at all...and thank you for responding!

I did begin to double-question my original post and was wondering if I didn't express my true purpose effectively.

Thanks again! I always appreciate our ATS community members that practice true civil discourse and dialogue!!!




reply posted on 9-7-2009 @ 09:47 AM by questioningall
reply to post by MOFreemason




S and F -

Just as Celente said in an interview - no doubt a false flag will occur - so the government can crack down and control information released over the internet.

PTB - are not happy about people finding truths on the internet and not just listening to the controlled information released of the MSM.


reply posted on 9-7-2009 @ 10:12 AM by MOFreemason
reply to post by John Matrix



LOL. Phew! That'll save me a lot of extra storage needs. LOL.

Is the recommendation to back-up hard drive information merely because of these recent threats, or is this is a recommended practice for all computer users at all times?
(probably sounds like a dumb question, but just want to be clear)


reply posted on 9-7-2009 @ 10:32 AM by son of total newbie
reply to post by MOFreemason



All these new idiot laws are spooking the equity markets. People are refusing to invest. Others who have investments are pulling them down.

This bill and the other bills Congress is working on will make this country poorer.


reply posted on 9-7-2009 @ 11:22 AM by Saganite
I suspect this push for all this 'security', recently, is in reality a desperate plan for the government to get controls in place...meanwhile trying desperately to push off the seemingly massive economic collapse that is approaching for as long as possible while metaphorically waving there hands and jumping up and down,"Yoo Hoo! Look over here! Nothing to see over there!" They want to legalize and get the infrastructure in place so when civilization as we know it starts to crumble they can maintain some kind of control. A futile effort in the long run, I think.

They will never be able to "shut down the internet"...it was designed decentralized and to be resistant to nuclear attacks after all. However, that was then..now it would be much easier to shutter certain sites and services, control flow of certain information etc. et al. However I doubt they would have 100% success, and if Iran is any gauge they would have much less ability considering the disparity in size. TPtB really do not like how the internet pretty much is exposing anything and everything they are up to. A lot of that information is missed by the general public, most of it (except in the case of more mundane scandals) languishing in relatively small communities of people who visit sites such as ATS...but important things tend to filter out to the general public over time and that must just drive them crazy as well.

The internet is the second coming of the printing press and that terrifies those who it threatens to expose. Knowledge is power and power in the hands of the people is the last thing these sub human cretins want.

You know...this reminds me of John Titor. That story has always fascinated me. It seemed that a few years ago it was indeed all bunk, but now it seems like what he said is still taking place, but events have been changed in our timeline and certain things are getting kicked down the road a few years. Even Titor stated he noticed changes in the timeline. In this context:

"The President or "leader" in 2005 I believe tried desperately to be the next Lincoln and hold the country together but many of their policies drove a larger wedge into the Bill of Rights. The President in 2009 was interested only in keeping his/her power base. "

Change 2005 to 2009 and certainly sounds a lot like what we are seeing now, does it not? Just a interesting observation. Time Travel is one of those things that has always tickled my fancy.

Regardless....interesting times we are living in. 10 years ago I would never have thought we were going to be living in such historic times. Stocking up one the guns, ammo, food, seed stock, etc. seems to be the only option this far into the game. It's looking like it's going to be a matter of how MUCH unrest we are going to see, not IF we are going to see it.

Something worth investigating in regards to thwarting government snooping and control of the internet: If you have not heard of TOR network encryption I highly suggest you look into it....use it at least and run a node if you can. Google it! It may not be the perfect solution, but it's better than nothing and any size monkey wrench you can throw into their gears is worth it IMO.
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