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Are Aliens (E.T.) Perfect?

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posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 08:31 AM
I read a lot of discussions on this board. Ok, I read too many discussions on this board.

I am really intrigued with crop circles. The ones that I really admire are the ones that have been appearing most recently. (Thunderbird, jellyfish, Mayan doom thing) I appreciate the artistic effort involved.

I have noticed a trend, and and have even fallen in to it myself. One of the criteria used to debunk a circle as being man made is that it 'isn't perfect.' There may be a line that is a little rough, or a circle that isn't exactly right.

I'm not really interested in the debate about who, or what is making crop circles. My question is in the title. If there ARE life forms visiting us from outside our planet, system, galaxy, or dimension, are they perfect?

Do you think they make mistakes? I don't want to get too far out into the staratosphere with this one, but do you think they 'sin?' Sin was just an easy word for me to use. It would encompass all those things we know, sloth, gluttony, pride, jealousy, etc. Do you think they have evolved beyond that? Do they murder?

Probably a different question altogether, but I was watching x-files last night and it portrayed an abduction, I know, x-files is fiction. The Greys were drilling into this guys teeth with a laser, against his wishes. Would that be a crime to an E.T. or just science?

posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 09:11 AM
Nothing about this universe has been perfect since the big bang. I doubt perfection can arise from imperfection.


posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 09:15 AM
Theres no way they are perfect.....especially if they keep crashing their spaceships

posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 12:33 PM
YES! If their race has been around long enough to reach earth in spacecraft, they have probably been evolving long enough to reach a perfect evolution.

posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 12:57 PM
nothing in the universe can be perfect, there are even accounts about that even the enlighted ones in nirvana could make mistakes

and like another poster said, if they are really that perfect, then Roswell for example would never have happened

posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 01:17 PM
Yes they are. That's why they crash

posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 01:22 PM
reply to post by lee63


posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 01:55 PM
reply to post by TXRabbit the TECHNOLOGY they were using when they 'crashed' wasn't if their technology isn't perfect, I suppose that would mean that they are not perfect either...

side note (not really)

We capture, tag and release animals, sharks for example, to study migratory patterns and such and we call that research, not abduction. Does our opinion of that change when it's US being tagged and released? Is it then a crime against humanity?

posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 01:58 PM
I think that will be a repeating comment.

Are Aliens (E.T.) Perfect?
"No that's why they crashed"....

I don't think they are perfect if they are out there. If they are mortal then no not at all.

Are they smarter than us?

[edit on 8-7-2009 by SLAYER69]


posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 11:12 PM
Perfection is "without flaw," which doesn't describe aliens. The notion of perfection stems from the fact that their technology is better. However, their use of it is very imperfect: some planets ruined, abductions, psychotronic (mind controlled and/or mind sensing) technology used to repress dissent and free expression, a lack of clear and distinct laws (see abductions, for example), and more.

Can you think of anything that's perfect? Everthing eventually depletes, or is recycled. Existence is flawed. Perfection would exclude the imperfect, so would it require a separate universe? Is that possible? Probably not.

On the other hand, aliens have more refined social cultures, in one sense. They use technology and their understanding of science to communicate telepathically, which compels them to be more transparent in their thinking, more immediately accessible. But that can be used by one domineering group of overpopulated, overly greedy aliens, to browbeat and herd other aliens, especially aliens less evolved in time. That's what we see here, now, in abduction of humans by the "gray" alignment, of which grays are but a minor, dependent part, isn't it?

The more you know about and interact with aliens, the more you see that we/they only rise to the best form when we all interact honestly, without ego, and gently. That kind of understanding and communication allows for a larger community of mind to exist (it's easily possible, given the new, faster-than-light physics of scalar and post scalar phenomena), and within that kind of community is the closest we'll ever come to being without certain flaws (abeit still imperfect). In a sense, absence of physical impulses and corruption (community of mind) could peel away all pretensions. Without physically defined peculiarities, we could only be honest--all would be truth. So, alien societies that can more readily set aside their physical pretensions should be the most advanced, and most understanding. The new physics, the science of other worlds, seems to be less coarsely physical, more mixed and interdimensioned than was the old human version of concretes and things and hard-edged definitions.

--George LoBuono, author of Alien Mind, free to read at


posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 11:20 PM
I neglected to mention: in remote sensing, a precision that is so closely akin to perfection exists. Some might say, an electron is nearly perfect, as is a photon. Space is nearly perfect, precise and predictable. Quanta are tricky, but their reliability is almost perfect. Some aspects of science are so reliably to be expected that they're like perfection. So, some will say that if you can remotely sense anything, anywhere, precisely, then that realm/kind of inclusion is nearly perfect (even if you aren't). Which holds out phenomenal possibilities (very real realities, i.e. remote sensing) that clearly show that much more evolved orders of being already exist and can be joined by any who choose to improve themselves accordingly.

But almost perfect isn't perfect, of course. If any of us are foul and offensive, the universe isn't perfect. Do you see a responsibility to improve the larger whole? If so, can we leave hellholes of corruption to go uncorrected, or are we obligated to make sure they evolve and are corrected?

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